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10-08-1991 Council Minutes232 CITY OF A APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 22, COUNCIL MINUTES REGULAR MEETING 1991. ORANGE, OCTOBER CALIFORNIA 8, 1991 The City Council of the City of Orange, California convened this 8th day of October, 1991 at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, 300 E. Chapman Avenue. Orancre. California. 3:00 P.M. SESSION 1. OPENING 1. 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG 1.2 ROLL CALL PRESENT - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon ABSENT - None 1.3 APPROVAL OF MINUTES Regular meeting - September 17, 1991 MOTION - Steiner SECOND - Barrera AYES - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon ACTION: Approved as amended.Regular meeting - September 24, 1991 MOTION - Barrera SECOND - Spurgeon AYES - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon ACTION: Approved. Adjourned Regular Meeting - September 26, 1991 MOTION - Coontz SECOND - Spurgeon AYES - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon ACTION: Approved.Adjourned Regular Meeting - October 2, 1991.MOTION Barrera SECOND - Steiner AYES - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon ACTION: Approved.Page 1 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 23J 1.4 PRESENTATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/INTRODUCTIONS a. Mayor Beyer presented City Council Resolution No. 7885, expressing appreciation to John V. Fonley of the orange Water Department and commending him for more than 36 years of loyal and dedicated service. b. The Director of Public Works presented the "Recycler of the Year" award to CMSI, for outstanding leadership and participation in office paper recycling, as selected by the city Hall Office Paper Recycling Committee. c. Two new Police Officers, Peter Kelley and Don Lockridge, were introduced by Police Chief Duncan. d. Police Chief Duncan recognized the selection of Debbie Klein as 1990/91 Crime Prevention Practitioner of the Year, Southern Chapter, California Crime Prevention Officers Association. e. The Library Director introduced Valerie Stadelbacher, Library Literacy Coordinator for the Library Literacy Grant. f. The Recreation Manager gave an oral report on the success of the First Annual "Camp Parker". g. The Police Sergeant's badge was presented to David Jensen. The Police Chief read a letter of commendation from the District Attorney's office, which will go into Sergeant Jensen's personnel file. Council recessed to a brief reception in the Weimer Room, and reconvened at 3:45 p.m. 1.5 PROCLAMATIONS - None 2. CONSENT CALENDAR TAPE 720 2. 1 Declaration of city Clerk Marilyn J. Jensen declaring posting of City Council Agenda of a regular meeting of October 8, 1991, at Orange Civic Center, Main Library, New Police Facility at 1107 N. Batavia and the Eisenhower Park Bulletin Board: all of said locations being in the city of orange and freely accessible to members of the public at least 72 hours before commencement of said regular meeting.ACTION: Accepted Declaration of Agenda Posting and authorized its retention as a public record in the Office of the city Clerk.Page 2 234 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 2. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued) 2.2 Authorize the Mayor and Director of Finance to draw warrants on city Treasurer in payment of demands. ACTION: Approved. REMOVED AND HEARD SEPARATELY) 2.3 Request to relinquish access rights to Santa Ana Canyon Road in association with the processing of Tentative Parcel Map 90-290, and Variance 1887-90 for the property located at 1535 Ila Drive (Continued from 9/24/91). (C2500.M. 16.1)MOTION - steiner SECOND - Barrera AYES - steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, coontz, spurgeon ACTION: Moved to continue this item to the October 15, 1991 Council meeting.2. 4 Request to approve the execution of loan documents to restructure an existing loan under the Tustin Street Loan and Grant Limited Partnership, for properties located at 1158 N. Tustin Street and 1520-1634 E. Katella Avenue (Loan 200-1091-002-20009). ( C2500.G. l)ACTION: Approved.2.5 Request Authorization to approve a low interest loan and authorize the City Treasurer to prepare a check in the amount of $15,000.00 (Case #494). (C2500.G. l Low Interest Loans)ACTION: Approved.2.6 Request approval to file a Notice of Completion: Bid No.901-57: IVANKO, Inc.; Cumberland Avenue Sewer from Shaffer Street to 1300 feet West. ( A2100.0 No. 1818)ACTION: Approved.2.7 Request approval to file a Notice of Completion: Bid No.901-37: Vernon Paving Company: Katella Avenue - Cambridge Street to 400 feet West of Tustin Street. (A2100. 0.1764)ACTION: Approved.2.8 Request by st. Norbert's Church to waive permit fee for their Oktoberfest festival on October 11- 13, 1991.PI300.0.9) .ACTION: Approved, subject CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 235 2. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued) 2.9 CLAIM FOR DAMAGES FROM:C3200.0) a. MARGARET BELOVSKY for an alleged incident occurring on or about June 14, 1991. b. ROBERT MARTINEZ for an alleged incident occurring on or about February 13, 1991. c. BERNETTE ANDERSON for an alleged incident occurring on or about May 1, 1991. d. GAYLE BERARDINELLI for an alleged incident occurring on or about August 8 & 9, 1991. e. ROBERT STAMM for an alleged incident occurring on or about August 9, 1991. ACTION: Denied claims and referred to City Attorney and Adjuster. 2.10 Request authorization to approve a Homeowner Participation Grant and authorize the city Treasurer to prepare a check in the amount of $2,000.00 (Case #510). (C2500.G.l.l Homeowners Participation Grant) ACTION: Approved. 2.11 Request authorization to approve a Homeowner Participation Grant and authorize the City Treasurer to prepare a check in the amount of $1,600.00 (Case #511). (C2500.G.l.l Homeowners Participation Grant) ACTION: Approved. 2.12 Request the city participate in a proposed County- wide Service Authority for abandoned vehicles, which would fund the cost of removal of abandoned vehicles from public and private properties within all the cities and unincorporated area in the County. (ORI800.0.3. 11)ACTION: Approved.2.13 Request from William T. Burns and Bridget S. Marquart, Coast Canine Resort Ranch, 606 w. Collins, Orange, to waive variance and permit fees regarding the conversion of the front yard to a parking lot at 606 W. Collins. (PI300.0. 9)ACTION: Approved.Page 236 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 2.CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued) 2.14 Approve and authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to sign an agreement with the Friends of the Orange Public Library to receive and hold funds donated to the City by the Friends for the building and furnishing of a Local History Room in the proposed new main library. (A2100.0 A.1858) ACTION: Authorized the Mayor and City Clerk to execute agreement on behalf of the City. MOTION - Barrera SECOND - Coontz AYES - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon Item 2.3 was removed and heard separately. All other items on the Consent Calendar were approved as recommended.END OF CONSENT CALENDAR 3.REPORTS FROM MAYOR BEYER - None 4.REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS TAPE 760 Report from the Audit Committee, Councilmembers Coontz and steiner,regarding Fiscal Monitoring/Goals and Objectives. (See report on file in City Clerk' s office.) (ORI800.0.82)The Councilmembers reported they are aware of and concerned about the forthcoming 1992-93 budget, since the economic recession has taken longer to turn around than predicted. Sales tax revenues to the City are lower and both State and County agencies have increased their pressure for allocation of share funds.When the 1991- 92 City budget was adopted in June, Council directed the City Manager to provide suggestions to develop a stronger Council/Staff partnership in planning and evaluating future programs. The City Manager has recommended Council conduct bi-monthly department study sessions, but this provides a weak focus on Council-generated goals. Council sees their most important responsibility as developing policies and setting goals for the community. The Audit Committee suggests Council meet with the city Manager and Assistant city Manager to determine some basic goals and objectives for the City. This can be followed with bi-monthly department study sessions with the Council. Then Council can meet to refine the original goals and objectives. Advice, recommendations and information may be provided by the different departments, but Council will have the responsibility of setting policy.The Mayor commented that council should be careful not to put itself in a position of micro-managing the budget. 237 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 4.REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS (Continued) MOTION - spurgeon SECOND - Mayor Beyer AYES - steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon Moved to accept the report from the Audit committee and set a time in the near future for the council to meet and discuss poI icy-making as it relates to our goals and objectives for the annual budget sessions, which will be starting in the near future.5.REPORTS FROM BOARDS. COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS - None 6.ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS - None 7.REPORTS FROM CITY MANAGER - None 8.LEGAL AFFAIRS TAPE 938 8.1 RESOLUTION NO. 7886 A2100.0 A.1818)A Resolution of the City Council of the city of Orange finally accepting the completion of certain public work and improvement: Bid No. 901-57: Ivanko, Inc.: Cumberland Avenue sewer from Shaffer Street to 1300 feet west. MOTION - Barrera SECOND - Coontz AYES - steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, spurgeon That Resolution No. 7886 as introduced be adopted and same was passed and adopted by the preceding vote.8. 2 RESOLUTION NO. 7887 A2100.0 A.1764)A Resolution of the city council of the city of Orange finally accepting the completion of certain public work and improvement: Bid No. 901-37: Vernon Paving company: Katella Avenue - Cambridge Street to 400 feet west of Tustin street. MOTION - Steiner SECOND - Barrera AYES - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, coontz, spurgeon That Resolution No. 7887 as introduced be adopted and same was passed and adopted by the preceding vote.Page 6 238 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 8. LEGAL AFFAIRS (Continued) 8.3 ORDINANCE NO. 19-91 (FIRST READING)S4000.S.3. 1)An Ordinance of the city Council of the city of Orange prohibiting parking on public streets on specified days and at specified times for the purpose of street sweeping.MOTION - Barrera SECOND - Coontz AYES - Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon NOES - steiner That Ordinance No. 19-91 have first reading waived and same was set for second reading by the preceding vote.8.4 RESOLUTION NO. 7888 ORI800. 0.3.11)A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Orange requesting establishment of a service authority for abandoned vehicle abatement in Orange County.MOTION - Coontz SECOND - Barrera AYES - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon That Resolution No. 7888 as introduced be adopted and same was passed and adopted by the preceding vote.9. RECESS TO THE MEETING OF THE ORANGE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY 10.ORAL PRESENTATIONS TAPE 1125 Barbara DeNiro, 1118 E. Adams, addressed the Council to express her support for the immigration raids. Mary Rawuka, 872 Fairmont Way, addressed the Council, requesting support for a real estate problem. The City Attorney opined that the matter is not within the purview of the Council. (RI200.0)Page 7 239 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 THE CITY COUNCIL RECESSED AT 4:18 P.M. AND RECONVENED AT 7:00 P.M. The City Council recessed to a Closed Session for the following purposes: a. To confer with its attorney regarding pending litigation pursuant to Government Code section 54956.9(a), to wit: city of Orancre vs. Donald D. Greek, Orange County Superior Court Case No. 64 27 01 City of Orancre vs. Forum Insurance Co., California Court of Appeals Case No. GOI0039. End vs. city of Orancre, Orange County Superior Court Case No. 59 70 17. b. To meet and give directions to its authorized representative regarding labor relations matters pursuant to Government Code section 54957.6. c. To consider and take possible action upon personnel matters pursuant to Government Code section 54957. d. To confer with its attorney regarding potential litigation pursuant to Government Code section 54956.9(b) (1). 7:00 P.M. SESSION 11. INVOCATION - given by Pastor Ed Trenner, Grace Brethren Church. 11. 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG 11. 2 ANNOUNCEMENTS - None 11.3 INTRODUCTIONS - None 11.4 PROCLAMATIONS - None 11.5 PRESENTATIONS - None 12.PUBLIC HEARINGS TAPE 1605 12.1 PROTEST HEARING FOR ANNEXATION NO. 392. FAIRHAVEN ISLANDS:Time set for a protest hearing for Annexation No., 392, Fairhaven Islands, Area B, as directed by the Local Agency Formation commission on September 11, 1991. (A3100. 0 No. 392)The property is comprised of 35.52 acres and is located northerly of Fairhaven Avenue, easterly of Yorba Avenue to Laurinda Lane.Page 8 240 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 12. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) The Advance Planning Administrator reported Fairhaven Avenue and Fairhaven Avenue extended to the east, was established as the boundary between the cities of Tustin and Orange. The city of orange has a policy of not forcing the residents to annex to the City. Likewise, the City, in the early 1960's, did not mandate that development occur only within annexed property. Therefore, some 15 county islands were developed within the City's sphere of influence. The City continually receives strong encouragement from LAFCO to annex these areas, in order to provide more efficient services to them. Starting in the mid-1980's, the Staff has written letters and held meetings with the residents of the Fairhaven Islands ( Annexations 392, 393 and 394), discussing issues related to annexation to the City of Orange. Those discussions have increased recently, due in part to the incorporation proposal in the North Tustin area. A formal request by a group of North Tustin residents to create a new city of North Tustin is presently under consideration by the Orange County Local Agency Formation Commission. This commission has indicated, even if the incorporation effort is successful, the Fairhaven Islands should not be included in the new city, but should be annexed to Orange. This is for a variety of reasons, including the proximity.Several people within the Fairhaven Islands have indicated they do not want to be part of the new city, because of financial liability issues related to the new city. The residents have collected signatures on petitions in support of annexation, which have been submitted to LAFCO three or four months ago. Approximately 25- 30% of the residents have signed those petitions. On September 11, LAFCO approved the three Fairhaven Island annexations, subject to several stipulations contained in the LAFCO resolution.These islands should be annexed to Orange because they are surrounded on three sides by the City of Orange. The city presently provides some services to the area, including water and library service. The islands are a part of the Orange Unified School District, and the children living there presently go to Orange schools. More efficient safety services can be provided by the City. A City fire station is located 1 to 1 1/2 miles east of the properties. Police cars patrol the areas surrounding these islands, in the adjacent neighborhoods.The telephone prefixes for the island areas are considered to be Orange prefixes by the telephone company.The advantages for the residents would be a reduction in water rates and trash pickup fees, and the additional services of street sweeping, tree trimming, weed abatement, sewer and storm drain cleaning. There would be no change in property taxes. There would be no physical changes in the area, if it were annexed. Residents could participate in local elections. l CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 12. PUBLIC HEARINGS (continued) MAYOR BEYER OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING. Mayor Beyer announced written protests should be submitted to the city Clerk. Mayor Beyer reported written protests have been received from Barbara and Jonathan White, Edward W. Hefner and Edwin L. Drinkwater, group representative for No On The Annexation (NOTA), with the owners opposed. The following people spoke: Edwin Drinkwater, 12862 Dunas Road, Santa Ana. Mary Wedgeworth, 12922 Wheeler Place, Santa Ana. Tim Felske, 12771 Wheeler Place, Santa Ana. The made the following points: They claim over 50% of the residents oppose the annexation. The residents feel they should be able to vote on the annexation. For Annexation No. 392 there are 99 homes: 78 protest signatures were submitted, for a total of 79.8% opposed. There are a total of 293 homes total in the 3 annexation areas. Protest signatures of 203 homeowners, or 69.3%, were submitted. The NOTA group requested council stop the annexation proceedings. It was asked if sidewalks and trees would be added: the Advance planning Administrator indicated there were not plans to do this. The Director of Public Works indicated any requests for additional improvements of this type would be generated by the residents. It was asked if the properties would be resurveyed: the Advance planning Administrator indicated there would be no adjustments to property lines. It was asked why this area is being targeted now. council said the county has indicated they would like the cities to annex as many of these island areas as possible, because they cannot afford to serve them. council discussed whether to leave the hearings open until the next Council meeting. The city Clerk indicated signatures would be verified at the County Registrar of voters, along with a map of all affected areas. First, it would be determined who was eligible to sign. Second, their signatures would be confirmed: they would be authenticated and certified by the Registrar of voters. This would be returned within 30 days and then the resolution would be adopted. The Annexation Coordinator reported the 30 days starts when the hearing is closed. The Advance Planning Administrator commented some of the residents had requested the hearing be held open in order to hold further discussions with Staff and perhaps change their minds on the issue. MOTION - Coontz SECOND - spurgeon AYES - steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, coontz, spurgeon Moved to close the public hearings on Items 12.1, 12.2 and 12.3 Annexations 392, 393 and 394).Page 10 242 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 12. PUBLIC HEARINGS MOTION - Mayor Beyer SECOND - Barrera AYES - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon Moved to direct the City Clerk to verify signatures for Annexation No. 392 and report back within 30 days with an appropriate resolution, based on the percentage of protests received.12.2 PROTEST HEARING FOR ANNEXATION NO. 393. FAIRHAVEN ISLANDS:Time set for a protest hearing for Annexation No. 393, Fairhaven Islands, Area C, as directed by the Local Agency Formation Commission on September 11, 1991. (A3100.0 No. 393)The property is comprised of 18.32 acres and is located northerly of Fairhaven Avenue, easterly of Laurinda Lane to Prospect Avenue.MAYOR BEYER OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.The following people spoke:Edward W. Heffner, 12891 Fieldstone.Georgann McKee, 12791 Wheeler Place.Earl W. Lewis, 17971 Stearns Drive.Jack D. Jones, 12972 Wheeler.A. J. Aregger, 17922 Stearns, Santa Ana.Terry J. Tweedt, 17852 Romelle Avenue, Santa Ana.Norman D. Kohl, 17972 Romelle Avenue.Joe Fialkoff, 17881 Romelle Avenue.They made the following points:There were 48 homes in this annexation area: 29 signatures opposing the annexation were obtained, or 60.4%.The city has said there would be no changes: the residents will be very unhappy if the city decides to make changes.Some of the residents feel the City of Orange has become more active in trying to annex this area since North Tustin began actions to become a city.One resident complained about problems with his water bill, since the City of Orange has been used for water service.Some residents are in favor of the annexation. They do not understand the opposition. They are in favor of more services at a lower price.Fees for remodeling with the City of Orange are less.When LAFCO approved these annexations, there were only two people present at these meetings, and they were in favor of the annexation.Some residents feel people who signed the petition in opposition did not understand what they were signing.Some residents would welcome being annexed to the City of orange.Economically, location and security-wise, some residents feel they would be better off in the City of orange.Page 11 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 243 12. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) MOTION - Coontz SECOND - Barrera AYES _ steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, spurgeon Moved to direct the city Clerk to verify signatures on Annexation No.393 and report back within 30 days with an appropriate resolution,based on the percentage of protests received.12.3 PROTEST HEARING FOR ANNEXATION NO. 394. FAIRHAVEN ISLANDS:Time set for a protest hearing for Annexation No. 394, Fairhaven Islands, Area D, as directed by the Local Agency Formation Commission on September 11, 1991. (A3100.0 No. 394)The property is comprised of 43.33 acres and is located northerly of Fairhaven Avenue, easterly of Prospect Avenue to westerly of Woodland Avenue.MAYOR BEYER OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.The following people spoke:william Erhart, 18161 Romelle, Santa Ana.Some residents feel there is no problem with emergency response time from Fire and police.The dumpster fees with Orange Disposal are much more expensive,which compensates for the lower water water rates.MOTION - Coontz SECOND - Barrera AYES _ steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, coontz, spurgeon Moved to direct the city Clerk to verify signatures on Annexation No.394 and report back within 30 days with an appropriate resolution,based on the percentage of protests received.13. PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENT 13.1 Report by Orange police Department on the Language and cultural Exchange Program with sister city Queretaro, Mexico.Report on file in city Clerk's office.) (C2500.K)MOTION - Mayor Beyer SECOND - Barrera AYES _ steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, coontz, Spurgeon Moved to receive and file report. Page 12 244 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 13. PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENT (Continued) 13.2 City of Clerk's Report on Immigration funding project coalition attended by Orange staff in Washington, D. C. (Report on file in City office.) (C2500.K) TAPE 2- 50 Mayor Beyer commented the service infrastructure is on the verge of collapse without immediate assistance. The city plans to continue working with federal and state legislators, as well as county and city officials to seek viable solutions to the immigration population explosion impacting public services in California.Police captain Hernandez reported the group, which was represented from orange by the Code Enforcement Manager, the Administrative Analyst from Community Services and himself, was seeking SLIAG ( State Legalization Impact Assistance Grants) funds made available from the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986. The federal government committed $4 billion in funding to offset the cost to local and state governments to deal with documented and amnesty applicants. $ 2 billion had been left in reserves and the government wanted to defer that to 1993. The funds are needed now, but they were not successful in obtaining these funds.captain Hernandez felt the group was successful in raising the consciousness of the congressional representatives to the plight of immigration, both legal and illegal, in not only California and the the border states, but the nation in general. California will be the first to feel the impact of the reduced SLIAG funds. Work at the grass roots level is needed now.Councilwoman Coontz complimented the city staff members who accompanied the coalition. Orange is on the cutting edge of positive activity, that no one else in the county has accomplished. The city will not give up to illegal immigration, and the problems that have been illustrated. In the past, members of the council and the community have contacted elected representatives at the Board of supervisors, Congress, State Legislators, who have been taken on tours through apartments, and the community. People have written letters and sat down with them. However, our city representatives discovered the people in Washington are unaware of the problems,because our own elected representatives have not told them about it.Councilman Steiner commented that Orange is not handling the overcrowding problems through a policy of deportation in this city.This is an affront to the City Council. Council believes that reasonable standards of behavior should be established for all citizens, which is the basis for the action within the city with regard to overcrowding problems.Mayor Pro Tem Barrera said he was shocked by the comments he had heard from both sides. In the memo, one of the coalition representatives mentioned there was an 'orange Curtain' over ? range County. The problems are not getting out to the legislators 1n Washington. Mayor Beyer commended the Police and Code Enforcement Departments for their efforts.Page CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 245 13. PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENT (continued) MOTION - Mayor Beyer SECOND - Barrera AYES - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon Moved to: 1) Develop a coalition of support with cities in and the County of Orange for the reimbursement of federal funding to cities and counties for services impacted by the legal and illegal immigrant population:2) Request the County of Orange and Orange County cities to provide statistical information on the fiscal impact of immigration issues on county and city services:3) Establish liaisons with california congressional representatives to encourage support for favorable legislation regarding immigration laws: 4) Form a City council subcommittee task force to coordinate city policies with city staff on immigration issues: and 5) Designate one Staff Member to coordinate these issues,which are of great magnitude.14. REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS - None 15.ORAL PRESENTATIONS TAPE 1-3880 The following people addressed the council in opposition the Immigration Raids:Juan Garcia.Mary Ellen Martinet, 828 N. Bristol st., #204, Santa Ana.Andy Zamora, 3627 E. washington Ave., Orange, Pastor of Orange Hispanic Covenant Church.Alfredo Amezcua, 1030 W. Glenwood, Santa Ana, President of Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. Amen David, 419 S. Polk st., Anaheim, President of Los Amigos of orange County.Rodney Burge, 9572 Madison # 2.John palacio, 929 corrigan Ave., Santa Ana, representing the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDE).Conrad Diaz, 566 N. Grand, Exec. Director League of united Latin-American Citizens for the State of california.They made the following points:The Latino community needs to be respected. They represent 23% of the population, they pay taxes, produce and work.They don' t fee 1 people should be fined $600 or more for looking for work. They can't pay this money if they don't have a job.They don' t feel the police should aid the INS in breaking into people's homes. people claim guns were pointed at them.They feel this is unconstitutional, and morally wrong. They want the council to put an end to these practices.The Job Center should be open to everybody, regardless of their immigration status. Page 14 24& CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 15. ORAL PRESENTATIONS (Continued) Let the INS handle federal law, not the city Police.The people who were present during the raid now have a fear of all uniforms. They will be afraid to report crime in the future.These raids are against all human dignity.They would like Council to form a citizens' committee to investigate what happened on the day of the raid. They feel there are other ways to handle the situation.The Guadalupe-Hidalgo Treaty signed in 1848 guarantees Hispanics the right to work in this country.This country is dependent on the Mexicanos, it would be short on pride, courage and determination needed to sustain life into the future.The City should adopt and enforce a non-collaboration policy.The following people spoke in support of the INS raids on September 18, 1991:Ben Seeley, San Ysidro, representing the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).Herbert A. Welch, 3446 E. Maple Ave.W. D. Bonner, 222 N. Shasta st. Brad Harrington, 259 N. Prospect Ave., Orange.Bill King, 23996 Juaneno, Mission Viejo, retired Border Patrol Officer.Bob Bennyhoff, 10642 Morada Drive, Orange.Shelley O'Connor, 3441 E. Vine Ave.Margaret Helms, 241 N. Olympia.The made the following points:The raids were carried out because the INS had been alerted to the presence of many illegal aliens in Orange. They are required to identify , apprehend, detain and deport these illegal aliens.The presence of the Code Enforcement Officers was coincidental to the INS raid. They were scheduled to be there on their own.There is a serious overcrowding problem, ripping the fabric of society. This results in crime, shooting, property damage, theft,etc.There should be a concerted action to obtain action on a federal level. The October 8 editorial in Common Talk was referenced.The Council was applauded for their actions and effort, along with the Police Department in trying to clean up a bad situation.These people should be taught to clean up after themselves.A resident read a letter written to the Times, disagreeing with their coverage of the raid.There is a serious criminal element in the Orange-Park Villa Apartment complex, with drug- dealing and random violence.This is not a racial issue: the issues are crime, drugs, and gangs. The neighbors are in a virtual state of siege.Concern was expressed about the growing number of illegal immigrants pouring into the country today.The immigration laws are being selectively enforced. California is not a land of infinite resources. There is a lack of support by congressional representatives on this problem.Page 15 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 247 15 ORAL PRESENTATIONS (Continued) The citizens of this land have the right to expect that the law will be enforced. Orange has done an exemplary job in trying to deal with the problem. Almost $1 million has been spent. The school district has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars educating these students, as required by law. This means we have less money to educate citizens who belong here. Children living in the area are intimidated by the illegal immigrants in the area. The schools cannot teach the citizens in the area, because they are too busy dealing with the illegal immigrants. only 10% of the elementary school is English- speaking.15. a. Presentation of a petition by Lorna Deshane,representing Friends of Hart Park, expressing their concern about the daily feeding of vagrants and homeless in Hart Park. (C2500.M.4. 9)TAPE 2-390 The fol1owing people spoke:Lorna Deshane, 205 River Avenue.Mae Stevens, 225 E. River Avenue. Carolyn Keatinge, 421 S. orange Street. Mindy Barber, 429 S. Orange Street.Carolyn Cavecche, 275 N. Shaffer.Mario Corona, 609 S. Orange street.Michael stastny, 649 S Orange Street.Nancy Read, 347 S. orange Street.Gloria Ravera, 1132 E. COllins, friend of Mary's Kitchen.Stephen Rolph, 660 S. Glassell street, #105.Margo Andrews, 504 E. Culver. They made the following points:The feeding began over 4 years ago, and has increased to over 225 people being fed daily. This is when the problems began.Their concern is for the location. They want the feeding relocated to a shelter with other services.At one time, Orange had only one park, which was the heart of the city.The park is no longer safe to use.the park are afraid to use it because The park is now almost exclusively vagrants. Dirty drug needles are found everywhere in the park, including buried in the sand of the children's playground.Crime has increased by 120% in surrounding neighborhoods. Vagrants are sleeping on private property in surrounding neighborhoods, urinating in public, harassing people, panhandling aggressively, shoplifting, burglaries, etc.Neighbors and former users of the rampant crime. used by transients and of Page 16 2J~ 8 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 15. ORAL PRESENTATIONS (Continued) This feeding program is not allowing the homeless to get the skills and resources they need to survive, other than on a meal- to-meal basis.There are no winners in the current situation: the children cannot play in the park, the residents live in fear and the homeless are not getting their needs met. The children want their park back.The homeless are a completely different society from the people found in Hart Park.This would not be a safe place to build the proposed city gymnasium.There are many successes with this program, in feeding the homeless.It does not work logistically to feed the homeless in a residential neighborhood. We have a social responsibility to the homeless, but we also have a responsibility to the residents in the area.Many of these people are irrational, mentally ill, etc.Why don't these people go to the Welfare Dept., which helps people without resources with food stamps, etc. There are other social service agencies to help these people.Council commented they are negotiating with st. vincent de Paul to move the feeding to this location. Mayor Pro Tern Barrera said they would continue to call it Mary's Kitchen.Police Captain Hernandez reported they have instituted a park guard program, specifically to address the parks in the Orange area,particularly Hart Park. The people in charge of feeding have called requesting daily patrol checks, because the homeless are becoming very combative. The ladies who are feeding them are also fearful.The Police Captain indicated since 1984, there has been a 110%increase in crime in that area.Councilwoman Coontz commented these people come from allover the County. These people are mistakenly called the homeless, because they arrive when free food is being given out.Councilman Spurgeon asked the annual cost of the park ranger program and why it was instituted. The Police captain indicated the annual cost to the city is about $50, 000, and it was started because of the increased crime problems.Councilman steiner commented we have an established social service program to feed people in need through the churches in Orange. There are many significant lessons to be learned about the destruction of a park. He grew up near MacArthur Park in the '40's and '50'S when it was beautiful; the park is now in terrible condition. This is what could happen to Hart Park.Page 17 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 249 15. ORAL PRESENTATIONS (Continued) MOTION - Mayor Beyer SECOND - Coontz AYES - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, spurgeon Moved to direct the Director of Community services to work with police captain Hernandez and return to council with possible solutions to the problem. Mayor Beyer and Mayor Pro Tem Barrera will continue to work with st. vincent de Paul to seek a relocation of the program.councilwoman Coontz commented the man who has worked with the food centers before has been of great help. There are others council may want to call on to assist. These people are being fed, but we don't know who they are and if they have other resources. There are so many agencies that do this job and do it well, many of them located in the City of Orange, we should look at what their resources are.Barbara DeNiro, 1118 E. Adams, addressed the council regarding the schools which are being used as parks. There is graffiti, trash,noise, litter, etc. b. presentation by Ted Foltz, president, Santiago Creek Estates Homeowners' Association, 692 N. Adele, Orange, regarding problems in their mobile home park. (MI800.M.l)The city Clerk reported Mr. Foltz consented to have this item continued to the October 15, 1991 council meeting.Carol Walters, 532 N. Shaffer, addressed the Council regarding the number of beds in the new dormitory at Chapman University, since some of them are doubles. Mayor Beyer indicated he will be counting beds in the new dormitory, along with a resident of the neighborhood, and a Chapman University staff member.Socorro Baca, 313 N. Center Street, told the council the residents are selling their parking permits. There continues to be a problem with parking in the neighborhoods surrounding Chapman University.Page 18 250 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1991 16. ADJOURNMENT MOTION - Spurgeon SECOND - Barrera AYES - Steiner, Barrera, Mayor Beyer, Coontz, Spurgeon Moved to adjourn at 10:30 p.m. to an Adjourned Regular Meeting at 9:30 a. m. on October 11, 1991, for the purpose of recessing to a Closed Session to discuss Orange County Superior Court Case No. 64 27 01, entitled citv of Orancre vs. Donald D. Greek.01//f:Mh,,~ ~ ~/, lI'.#~MARILYNJ. ENSE CM~ CITY CLERK Page 19