1998-05-06 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, May 6,1998
Board Members Present: Rick Cavecche
Tim McCormack
Steve Prothero (Chair)
Board Member Absent: Robert Reilly
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 8:15 p.m.
A motion was made by Steve Prothero to nominate Rick Cavecche for Chairperson.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
A motion was made by Steve Prothero to nominate Tim McCormack for Vice Chairperson.
SECOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Regular Session - S: 30 P.M.
Steve Prothero opened the meeting.
A motion was made by Rick Cavecche to defer the April 22, 1998 minutes to the May 20, 1998
meeting.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(1) DRB No. 3245
Santiago Hills Auto Spa & Car Care
Center
8544 E. Chapman Avenue
KHR Associates
• Proposed new automotive service station,
car wash, mini-market, and tube facility
PC (Planned Community) District
The project was presented by John Dilauro and Mike Lombardy with KHR Associates. This is a
final submittal of the site, building, and landscaping plans. The plans have been modified which
eliminated the waterfall/fountain component and replaced with a 12'x12' hand painted the water
wall instead. Other change includes the elimination of the crib wall due to problems with
expansive soil.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
1. The use of "Form-liner" with "Slate Cliff' finish is acceptable for the retaining walls. (Note:
care should be taken in the formation of the walls to assure that the joints are not discernible)
2. The use of Passion Vine at the base of the retaining wall shall be provided with some type of
permanent support across the entire wall. If a support is not provided, then a clinging vine,
Boston Ivy, is recommended in lieu of the Passion Vine.
3. Palm trees at the perimeter of the site shall be increased in height and varied in height to
create more contrast.
4. Provide curbed ring base around the Palm trees to create a level planting area at the 2 to 1
slopes.
5. Replace the clear aluminum color mullions at the overhead doors with the muted gray/green
color to match the mullions used for the rest of the building.
6. Coordinate placement of landscaping to avoid conflict with signage.
7. Submit signage plans to DRB for approval.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(2) DRB No. 3303
Orange Heights Senior Housing
340 Newport Blvd.
Cathcart/Begin Landscape Architects
New 87 units senior citizen housing project
C-1 (Limited Business) District
(Applicant not present)
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue this project
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(3) DRB No. 3322
Harold Looney
402 W. Chapman Avenue
Anchor Sign
• New replacement blade sign for an existing
retail business
• SPZ (Specific Plan -Santa Fe Depot Area)
(Applicant not present)
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue this project to the June 3, 1998 meeting, as requested by the
applicant prior to the meeting.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(4) DRB No. 3326
Luis E. Marquez
424 S. Olive Street
Joe Mark Design
• Addition onto an existing residence with
new detached 2-car garage and workshop
• R-4 (Multiple -Family Residential) District,
Old Towne
The project was presented by the owner of the property, Luis Marquez. The proposal is to
demolish an the rear porch and add approximately 700 sq.ft. onto an existing single story
residence within the Old Towne District. Also proposed is the construction of a new detached 2-
car garage and workshop at the rear of the property. This project has been scheduled for
Planning Commission review on May 18, 1998.
The DRB expressed concerns with the use of masonite siding for the new addition and how it
would transition to and match with the existing redwood lap siding. Concerns were also raised
with the lack of a break along the entire length of the existing house plus the new addition
making it appear like a mobile home trailer. The DRB suggested breaking up the lengthy
elevations along the north and south sides of the building by extending out the new front
bedroom, bathroom, and laundry room, and creating perpendicular gable roofs.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to recommend approval to the Planning Commission with the following
conditions:
1. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit fmal building elevation plans to DRB for
approval. Submittal shall include actual material samples of the existing redwood beveled
lap siding to compare with the proposed new masonite siding to be used.
2. Extend out the first bedroom approximately 2-3 ft. along the north elevation to create an
additional gable roof perpendicular to the length of the house. This is also to be repeated on
the opposite side of the house by extending out both the new bathroom and laundry room to
create another gable facing the south elevation. These two room "Pop-outs" creates an
inside wall corner that would make the transition from the existing wood siding to the new
siding material easier to match.
3. New exterior lighting fixtures (if any) shall be of period design.
4. Garage door shall be of period wood flat panel sectional design.
5. Finish color of new addition to match the existing house (yellow base with white trims). If
alternative colors are to be used, submit color palette to DRB for approval.
6. Roof material of new addition to match the existing house. If entire house is to be re-roofed,
submit new roof material sample to DRB for approval.
7. New addition windows shall be wood sash double hung to match the existing house.
8. New addition window trims to match existing house.
9. Provide raised panel man doors at laundry room and new garage.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(5) DRB No. 3328
Gordon Biersch Brewing Company
1623 W. Katella Avenue
Young Electric Sign Company
• Wall signs for a new tenant at the new
Century Stadium promenade
• C-R (Commercial Recreational District)
The project was presented by Bill Buttram and Tom Turner with Young Electric Sign Company. The
proposal is to install new wall signs for a new restaurant/brewery tenant (Gordon Biersch Brewing
Company) at the Century Stadium Promenade.
The DRB expressed concerns with amount of signage being proposed for this building. Staff noted that a
variance has been approved for the overall shopping center which allowed for an increase in signage
area. Also, the approved sign program for the center allows for certain flexibility in the placement of
signs.
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve this project with the following conditions:
1. Signs # 4, 5 & 6 are approved as an integral unit and is considered as the primary sign per
the approved sign program. The signage on the tower elements shall be provide with
minimum 6 inch spacing from all sides
2. Sign # 1 shall be reduced to a maximum of 100 sq.ft. and be centered over the two window
elements along the south building elevation.
3. Sign # 3 are approved as secondary signs on the silo element.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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61 DRB No. 3329
Arden Engineering
North Main Street, North of Taft, South
of Grove
HPJ Architects
• New 32,000 sq.ft. industrial facility
expansion
• M-2 (Industrial District)
The project was presented by Randall Jepson with HPJ Architects. The proposal is to develop a new
32,000 sq.ft. industrial facility for the expansion of Arden Engineering which currently also owns the
adjacent property to the north. A lot line adjustment is being process to consolidate the 2 parcels into 1.
MOTION by Tim McCormack to approve this project with the following conditions:
1. Building elevation plans, finish materials and color palette are approved as submitted.
2. Add one gallon Boston Ivy 8 ft. on center at trash enclosure.
3. Add one gallon Boston Ivy 8 ft. on center on both sides of division wall between the 2
parcels.
4. Provide evergreen tree along street frontage to match existing Tristania (verify) on other side
of existing facility. Replace the flowering street tree to an evergreen tree to match existing
Tristania (verify).
5. Add City required inspection notes on landscape and irrigation plans.
6. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final landscape and irrigation plans to
Department of Community Services Staff for approval.
SECOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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DRB No. 3330
Lusk-Nohl
2854 N. Santiago Boulevard
Robert Griffith
• New sign program for an existing 2-story
office complex
• C-TR (Limited Business District -Tustin
Street Redevelopment Project Area)
The project was presented by Bill Griffith with TCI properties. The proposal is to construct 2
freestanding signs on the property, one along the street frontage and the other in back of the property
facing the 55 Newport Freeway.
The DRB expressed concerns with the integration of the new sign to the existing planter base and how it
all ties together. Both signs also lacked sufEcient information and detail as to the type of lettering style
to be used, illumination, color, background, etc. Further plan development is needed.
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue this project for the applicant to further develop the plans.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(8) DRB No. 3332
Fatburger Wall signs for a new restaurant pad at the
2318 N. Tustin Street Mall of Orange complex
Image Systems C-TR (Limited Business District -Tustin
Street Redevelopment Project Area)
The project was presented by Sergio Meiron with Image Systems. The proposal is to install new
wall signs for a new restaurant tenant.
The DRB expressed concerns with the amount of signage on the north building elevation.
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve this project with the following conditions:
1. Eliminate the "fATBORCER" text and the 2 small diamond shaped logos along the north elevation. The
sign with the text contained in the large diamond shaped logo may be retained. The sign may be
enlarged to have a maximum 3 ft. high text contained within a proportionally enlarged diamond
shaped logo.
2. The use of clear-plex or open-face channel letters with double row exposed neon is approved.
3. The use of exposed neon for the outline of the diamond shaped logo is approved.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(9) DRB No. 3333
Chief Auto Parts
655 N. Tustin Street
Ad Art Electronic Sign Corp.
• New wall sign for an automotive parts store
• C-1 (Limited Business District)
The project was presented by Nancy K. Parker with Permit-Me Services. The proposal is to
replace the existing wall sign with the new tenant's (Chief Auto) corporate identity sign.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve this project as submitted
SECOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
MOTION CARRIED