1994-05-04 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
Conference
Room "C"
Wednesday,
May 4, 1994
Board members present
Staff in attendance:
Item 1)
Item 2)
Preview of applications.
Robert Homacek, David Kent, Steven Prothero,
Beau Shigetomi and Erika Wolfe
Jim Donovan, Howard Moms and Dan Ryan
Administrative Session - 4:00 P.M.
DRB 2640
ORANGE COUNTY RESCUE MISSION
JIM PALMER
367 SOUTH LEMON STREET
Request for a revision to approved plans to omit river rock exterior covering on the
Porte cochere/trash enclosure on a group home in the Old Towne District.
(No plans were submitted. The applicant will present photographs of the new
building at the meeting.)
This item was withdrawn at the applicant's request, and may be considered again on May 18,
1994.
Regular Session - 5:00 p.m.
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Final Items -
Item 3)
DRB 2946
SUPERSPORTS, INC., GOLF DIVISION/ORANGE UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT
2190 CANAL STREET (N.W.C. AT MEATS AVE.)
Final landscaping review for a new recreation center at the former Peralta Junior
High School site approved under Conditional Use Permit 2050-94.
The applicants were represented by Kent Hawkins and Pete Dilallo. The applicants were
asked if they were aware that no irrigation plan was submitted with this proposal. Mr. Hawkins
replied that he wanted to be sure the planting plan was acceptable before irrigation plans were
completed. The board expressed much concern about plant material and locations at a
previous hearing. There is an existing irrigation system that serves the entire 20 acre site.
The applicant will modify only the "laterals", and the existing hydraulic (manual) controls will be
replaced with an electronic (automatic) system.
The board also noticed that the surface of the pedestrian access path was not specified. (See
plan at northern and western property lines.) The applicant reports that decomposed granite
would be used for that portion of the path west of Northmberland to Meats Avenue. East of
Northumberland,the access path is already paved. Pavement would be retained so that
maintenance equipment and golf ball recovery tractors have access to the fairway.
Finally, the board suggested (and the applicant agreed) that the planting plan be modified so
that larger trees are redistributed to the perimeter.
Motion: to approve these final plans with the following revisions:
A) Planting plan shall be modified so that 24 inch box trees are used along the
perimeter of the site.
B) Cupena trees shall be changed to Bradford Pear along Meats Avenue.
C) Eucalyptus trees will be added along the northern edge of the fairway,
immediately south of the netting.
D) Plans for an automatic irrigation system will be prepared and submitted to staff
for review and approval.
by: Beau Shigetomi
2nd: David Kent
ayes: Robert Homacek David Kent, Steven Prothero, Beau Shigetomi and
Erika Wolfe
noes: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Item 4)
DRB 2970
RICH ROBERTSON
RUSSELL W. TOEPFER -ARCHITECT
477 S. ORANGE ST.
Proposed 2-story second unit in the Old Towne District. (Request for a
recommendation to the Planning Commission under Conditional Use Permit 2068-
94).
The applicants were represented by Mr. Toepfer, Mr. and Mrs. Robertson. The board reviewed
photographs of existing development on the property, and notes that wood siding, window trim,
the roof pitch, and rafter tails adequately resemble construction of the existing residence. The
board expressed some concern about the arrangement of building elements near the entrance
of the proposed second unit (see west elevation): a sun deck supported by spindly legs, a
see-through staircase that extends beyond the dining nook, which in turn, is an extension of a
cantilever on the second level. Nonetheless, the board determined that this elevation is
viewed primarily from the existing residence, and less of a concern.
The board also discussed a preliminary landscaping plan, suggesting that tree wells be added
between the back of the garage and the rear property line, one between garage doors and
another near each of the comers of the building. The applicant replied that none of his
neighbors have landscaping at the rear of their properties. The board's response was that, as
a policy, similar developments have been required to provide landscaping where the space is
available between new development and public alley.
Motion: to recommend approval of the project subject to the following conditions:
A) The sectional garage door shall be made of wood, rather than aluminum or steel
panels.
8) The paved area that is originally proposed between the new structure and the
public alley shall include three wells for trees, as indicated upon plans on file
with the Community Development Department.
C) Prior to the issuance of a building permit, final landscape and irrigation plans will
be prepared and submitted to staff.
by: Robert Homacek
2nd: Erika Wolfe
ayes: Robert Homacek David Kent, Steven Prothero, Beau Shigetomi and
Erika Wolfe
noes: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Item 5)
DRB 2971
RICHARD >~ NOLA JACKSON
484 N. LEMON ST.
Proposed new detached 2 car garage for an existing single family residence
within the Old Towne District.
Mofion: to approve the proposal subject to the following conditions:
A) Wood siding shall match the existing residence in proportion, depth and scale.
B) The garage door shall be re-designed to eliminate horizontal siding. The garage
door should include a panel treatment. A modified plan shall be prepared and
submitted for review by the Senior Planner, Historic Preservation. A wooden
door is required.
C) A concrete driveway must be provided in order to satisfy code requirements. A
turf strip shall be provided between parallel concrete treadways measuring
approximately 30 inches (each) in width.
by: Bob Homacek
2nd: Steven Prothero
ayes: Bob Hornacek, David Kent, Steven Prothero, Beau Shigetomi and Erika Wolfe
noes: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Item 6)
DRB 2972
PARSONS FAMILY TRUST
BRUCE PARSONS
504 W. CHAPMAN AVE.
Proposed new freestanding sign for an existing multiple tenant
Commercial/Industrial complex within the Old Towne District. (Variance 1970-94
is scheduled for a public hearing on May 12, 1994 before the Zoning
Administrator to consider waiver of sign requirements.)
The presentation was made by Bruce Parsons. The staff informed the applicant that
development of an adjacent parcel, (to the west) might one day obscure visibility of the
proposed sign. Old Towne Design Guidelines require that the building be situated adjacent to
the front property line. Staff therefore recommends that any new sign be situated on the
opposite side of the driveway, if possible.
The board identified many conflicts with Old Towne Design Guidelines. The proposal is not
consistent with the subtle color palette that is recommended, maximum limitation on the height
and size of the sign, building materials and methods of (internal) illumination, which is
specifically prohibited. Ordinarily, the board might recommend adjustments that would make
the proposal more conforming. However, this plan represents an attempt "to bend the rules in
every conceivable way." One board member suggested that the applicant consider wall signs
on either side of the freestanding building.
Discussion about the process ensured.. Since the proposal is linked to a variance application,
it is difficult for the board to suggest an appropriate alternative. The Zoning Administrator will
determine whether the application is justified, and it is difficult for the board to determine which
of the standards should be compromised. Since the applicant did not volunteer to revise the
plan, and the Zoning Administrators hearing was only eight days away, the board was under
the impression that this was their only chance to act upon this application.
Mofion: to deny the proposal, as it does not comply with the provisions and
requirements of Orange Municipal Code and the Old Towne Design Guidelines.
by: Erika Wolfe
2nd: Bob Homacek
ayes: Bob Homacek, David Kent, Steven Prothero, Beau Shigetomi and Erika Wolfe
noes: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Item 7)
DRB 2973
CHRISTIAN MONTESSORI SCHOOL
BEST SIGN PRODUCTS
1539 E. MAYFAIR AVE. (N.W.C. AT SHATTUCK ST.)
Proposed new replacement freestanding sign for an existing school facility.
Motion: to approve the proposal subject to the following two conditions:
A) The applicant will agree to remove the diagonal copy at the lower comers of the
sign, in order to reduce clutter.
B) An opaque background shall be provided.
by: Erika Wolfe
2nd: Steven Prothero
ayes: Bob Homacek, David Kent, Steven Prothero, Beau Shigetomi and Erika Wolfe
noes: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Item 8)
DRB 2974
SAINT JOSEPH HOSPITAL
DEREVERE & ASSOCIATES
LA VETA AVE. AT PEPPER ST.
Proposed pedestrian bridge overpass across La Veta Avenue connecting
between St. Joseph Medical Plaza to the south and parking lot to the north..
The board expressed some concern about the precedent that would be set by the approval of
this project. The staff reported that the overcrossing is actually a requirement of the Public
Works Department, and related to approvals of the sub-division of property and previous
developments. The applicants were represented primarily by Dell de Revere and James
Brennan. St. Joseph's Hospital would rather these two facilities be connected by a tunnel
beneath La Veta Avenue. Unfortunately, existing underground utilities, including a major
storm drain, and sewer main, make construction of a tunnel impossible at this location. Since
the hospital and the out-patient building have individual and adequate parking facilities, the
overpass would be used more by doctors and medical staff. than by patients and the general
public.
Mr.de Revere discussed the structural design. He stated that the structural engineering has
not been done yet.
While the board felt that the proposed design was generally acceptable in plan view, the
designer should reconsider some of the more subtle aspects of the proposal. Rib-like, upright
elements should be flush with the lower horizontal surface of the concourse, much the same
as horizontal and vertical elements are flush within the existing "Pavilion". The upper,
horizontal spandrels should be recessed to a depth of 4 inches, or so.
In regard to landscaping plans, an irrigation plan must be prepared and submitted. Landscape
material shall also be sized on the planting plan.
Motion: to approve the proposal as a preliminary plan. A final submittal is required.
Landscape and irrigation plans may be reviewed and approved by staff.
by: Robert Homacek
2nd: Erika Wolfe
ayes: Robert Homacek David Kent, Steven Prothero, Beau Shigetomi and
Erika Wolfe
noes: None
MOTION CARRIED
(Continued on the following page)
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DRB 2974
SAINT JOSEPH HOSPITAL
DEREVERE 8 ASSOCIATES
LA VETA AVE. AT PEPPER ST.
(Continued from the previous page)
Staff Recommendations and Requirements
Add/change plant material, if required by DRB.
Provide the following note on irrigation plans:
NOTIFY COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, (714) 744-5596, FOR
IRRIGATION MAIN LINE PRESSURE TEST AND COVERAGE TEST. 48
HOURS NOTICE REQUIRED.
Adjournment: 7:00 P. M.