1996-05-22 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, May 22, 1996
Board Members Present: Richard Cavecche
Steven McHarris
Tim McCormack
Steven Prothero (Chair)
Erika Wolfe
Board Members Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Jack McGee, Community Development Director
Daniel Ryan, Senior Planner Historic Preservation
Administrative Session - 4:00 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:00 P.M. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 8:05 P.M.
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Meeting Minutes for May 22, 1996
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Regular Session - S: 00 P.M.
Steven Prothero (Chair) opened the meeting and asked whether board members had any comments about,
or revisions to, the meeting minutes for May 8, 1996.
Timothy McCormack indicated the following corrections:
DRB # 3128 Item # 6 Change "Add planting area at trash enclosure to add vine pocket" to
"Add vine pocket planting area at trash enclosure".
DRB # 2925 Item # 5 on Motion, Change "Provide additional controllers..." to "Provide additional valves.."
Steven Prothero indicated the following corrections:
DRB # 3146 Third paragraph, last sentence, Change ....as the monument signs are not visible from "the
freeway", to...as the monument signs are not visible on a parallel street (Santiago Blvd.) and are
not visible from the freeway or freeway off-ramp".
DRB # 3149 Third paragraph, second sentence, Change ....A "precedent" to A "program" .
Item # 1 Change , "The applicant may retain the existing brown color background "if so desired" to
"The applicant may retain the existing brown color background "for all signs if desired".
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the corrected meeting minutes for May 8, 1996.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Erika Wolfe
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Regular Session - S: 00 P.M.
Continued Items -
(1) DRB No. 2925
John and Grace Aou Landscape and irrigation plans fora 9-unit
341 E. Lincoln Ave. residential condominium.
R. C. Colin R-3 (Residential Multiple Family) District
Continue this item as the applicants and/or representatives were not present at the meeting to address issues
and concerns.
Staff Recommendations and Requirements
Provide City Street trees along Lincoln Ave:
Species: Pittosporum rhombifolium, Queensland Pittosporum
Size: 15 gallon (min.)
Spacing 45 feet o.c. (max.)
Staking: One 3" lodge pole, 2 each corded tire ties
Root Barrier: Deep Root Barrier
Tree well size: 3 ft. x 4 ft.
Provide City required Landscape notes on plans.
Add/Change Plant material, if required by the DRB.
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Continued Items -
~2) DRB No. 3115
Orange Redevelopment Agency
S.E.C. Chapman & Main
Thomas P. Cox, Architects, Inc.
Final landscaping review and signage plans
for a new drive-thru pharmacy.
C-2 (General Business) District
Dana Seelig with HRP Land Design Company presented the proposed Landscape and sign plans.
MOTION by Timothy McCormack to split applicants submittal: continue signage for revisions and
approve Landscaping plan in accordance with the following:
1. On Chapman and Main install two Camphors at each frontage with a minimum clearance of 15
feet setback from Washontonia Robusta palms.
2. Put in each end of the parking islands, and one back by the satellite enclosure for a total of three 15
gallon "Tristanias" (with root barriers installed).
3. Expand the shrub area width along the east property line to four feet, starting 30 feet from the
drive isle.
4. Install Boston Ivy on entire masonry wall at East property line at 8 ft on center.
5. Change the "Rhaphiolepis" from "Springtime" variety to "Jack Evans" or "Pink Cloud".
6. Recommend a new refined edge treatment for boarder edge plant treatment.
7. Call out the mulch at parking end islands being a wood fir bark mulch on the plan..
8. Mark all legend notes including type of heads on the Irrigation Plans.
9. Redefine sign package, building colors and lighting fixtures submittal
SECOND: Steven McHarris.
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack ,Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Erika Wolfe
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
Staff Recommendations and Requirements
• Provide City required Landscape notes on plans.
• Add/Change Plant material, if required by the DRB.
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Continued Items -
(3) DRB No. 3133
Citrus City Grille
122 N. Glassell St.
Chris Light
Proposed building facade renovation for a
new full service restaurant in Old Towne.
C-1 (Limited Business) District
Chris Light presented detailed revised plans dated May 21, 1996 at the meeting per DRB recommendations
from May 8th. Steven Prothero commented that the plans were complete and detailed as to the items
requested.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve this item as submitted, excluding signage to be submitted later.
SECOND: Erika Wolfe
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero, and
Erika Wolfe
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED
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New Proposals
4) DRB No. 3150
Orange Mall Development Assoc.
(Wal Mart)
Broadway Store site @ Orange Mall
Demolition of existing Broadway Store and
construct 129,690 Sq. Ft. retail building.
Planning Commission action required.
C-TR (Commercial), Tustin Redevelopment
Project Area
Applicant's Development Team:
Steve Reiner -Hall & Foreman Inc.
Joel Meyer -Pacific Retail Partners.
Steward Holtz -D.S.W. Intl. Architects
Berry Greenstien -Landscape Architect, and
Barbara Totah -Orange Mall Development Associates.
Site Issues:
• Security concerns and screening on both loading truck bays.
• Screening of pallet enclosure.
• Truck circulation vs. pedestrian/vehicular circulation.
• Designated truck lanes and safe turning radius/signage.
• Paving base to support truck loads.
• Grade difference issues at garden center.
• Landscape is deficient- Upgrade new parking areas with required landscaping (minimum 10%).
Existing trees are severely pruned and provide little or no screening of the center. Recommend
removing existing trees and planting one tree for every 8 parking spaces. New trees should soften
parking area and provide shade. Elms could provide a shade canopy.
• Explore other screening options for AMC and neighborhood besides 3 ft. chainlink fence, use a
different treatment, landscape screen wall, integrate architecture of building, add plant material etc.
• Provide photometrics for new parking area in coordination with new parking lot tree planting.
• Site signage to be submitted at a later date.
• Provide details on lighting fixtures.
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Building Exterior and Design
• Proposed architecture doesn't enhance center.
• Concerns about the large amount of precision painted concrete block.
• Wal-Mart signage doesn't fit center. Should have some like features to tie it into the existing mall.
• Rear elevation -very plain and inexpensive materials.
• Rear elevation not architecturally developed, no split face block.
• Building should have a richness of materials.
• Applicant has an opportunity to use other treatments.
• Banding is minimal.
• Trellis structure is a weak element to break up building form.
• Wal-Mart stucco element doesn't lend itself to center's architecture.
• Pent roof element with signage doesn't fit center, other elements could be incorporated into entry
and enhance architecture.
• Area in front of entrance has not been addressed, some trees and planters could be used to define
space.
• Project lacks foundation landscaping to break up building form.
• Project site is an important location in Orange and it merits more consideration as far as how the
whole project comes together.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to continue the project for revisions to building elevations, site plan,
landscaping, and color and material revisions.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack,
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Erika Wolfe
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED
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New Proposals -
(5) DRB No. 3151
Outback Taft Self Storage Self Storage Facility
SEC Taft/55 Freeway Planning Commission action required.
Jordan-Valli Architects M-1 (Light Manufacturing) District
The Board complemented the applicants on the design of the building elevations. Most of the discussions
revolved around the proposal to keep, remove and or replace an existing major landscape feature (a mature
row of eucalyptus trees which screens the adjacent Edison sub-station property as viewed from the
freeway).
MOTION by Steven McHarris to recommend approval with conditions to the Planning Commission on the
preliminary plan and return with a final plans in accordance with the following:
The screening from the 55 Freeway be addressed as follows
• Front -Taft grove, N.E. corner of property under the towers, supplement the existing grove
with more eucalyptus trees .
• Applicant pursue discussions with Cal-Trans on providing screening along the East side of
building "B" and provide tree screening in the vacant land between Cal-Trans ROW and the
easement line.
• Along the west side of building "E" provide rows of screen trees in the planting area and screen
trees along the northwest end of building "E" to the Northwest end of building "A".
• Screen trees to be provided on the applicants or Edison's side to screen the sub-station.
2. Applicant provide research on year round surviorablity and weed abatement of plant material
for the meadow.
The board gives a positive recommendation on the building elevations as submitted.
4. Applicant returns with a final landscape, irrigation, building plans and sign proposal.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Erika Wolfe
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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New Proposals -
(6) DRB No. 3153
GVD Commercial Properties, Inc. Facade Remodeling of an existing commercial
1915 E. Katella Avenue building. C-TR (Commercial District), Tustin
Choy Associates -Architects Redevelopment Project Area
The Board complemented the applicants on the design of the buildings elevations and material Platte.
MOTION by Steven McHarris to approval the project as submitted.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Erika Wolfe
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED