1996-04-17 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, April 17, 1996
Board Members Present: Richard Cavecche
Steven McHarris
Tim McCormack (arrived at 5:20 p.m.)
Steven Prothero (Chair)
Erika Wolfe (excused herself at 7:00 p.m.)
Board Members Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Dan Ryan, Senior Planner /Historic Preservation
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Pat Schulz, Recording Secretary
Chuck Lau, Staff Planner
Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:00 P.M. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 8:20 P.M.
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Regular Session - S: 00 P.M.
Steven Prothero (Chair) opened the meeting and asked whether board members had any comments about,
or revisions to, the meeting minutes for Apri13, 1996.
Mr. Prothero indicated changes as follows:
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Item No. 2, DRB 3127; Carl and Carol Harnack (page 6, Motion, #8.)
8. Phase I is defined as the south side of the driveway to the front house forward to the street.
In addition, any major plants on the south section of the property along the perimeter also
be included as part of Phase I. The landscaping in the Phase I area must be completed
within 3 months after occupancy of the front house. Landscaping of the remaining portion
of the property must be completed within 9 months after completion of the front property
(which is Phase I) and prior to occupancy of the rear house.
Item No. 3, DRB 3140; Frank Valdez (Andy's Ace Hardware)Spage 7, Motion, #5.)
Change the spelling of the word "Baluster" to "Ballaster."
Item No. 4, DRB 3143; John & Lisa Bishop (page 8)
Change last sentence in fourth paragraph to read:
"Mr. McHarris suggested utilizing a drip line in lieu of shrub heads to keep water off the house if
the clapboard is extended."
Motion, #6 as follows:
Per applicants request:
a. Use river rock on planter wall and on pier bases of columns at rear of house.
b. Match existing height from grade of first course of clapboard siding on new addition.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the meeting minutes with the aforementioned corrections.
SECOND: Steven McHarris
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Steven McHarris, and Steven Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Timothy McCormack
ABSTAINED: Erika. Wolfe
MOTION CARRIED
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Regular Session - S: 00 P.M.
Final Items -
(1) DRB No. 3124
RPM Properties (Ryder Truck) Facility for renting, leasing & maintaining
North 1300 block of Main St. Ryder Truck vehicular fleet.
Mark Mattias (J. R. Miller & Assoc., Inc.) M-2 (Industrial) District
Jeff Adams (Designers Collective) and Sylvia Lyons (Royal Oak Design -Landscape Architect) represented the
applicant and presented plans depicting revised elevations, landscape and irrigation and sign plans.
The board expressed concerns regarding "horizontal relief' on the design of the building, equipment screening, and
made some landscaping suggestions.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve as follows:
Parapet issues:
a. Move exhaust fan #6 move in 30' from north parapet
b. Move AC # 1 30' to the west.
2. Window issue:
a. Windows shall be added to the building consistent with previous design; or in lieu of that
return to DRB with revised front elevations.
The top 2 or 3 courses of the front building shall be changed to precision block.
4. Landscape and irrigation issues:
a. Change front trees in setback area to silver dollar gums and move back no less than 30"
from the mow strip.
b. Recommend 6" pop-up sprinklers in the turf.
5. The two gates shall match in material and design.
Front parking lot wall mounted light fixtures shall be shielded to prevent direct glare as viewed
from the public street. Shce box type fixture is acceptable.
7. Provide white opaque background on monument sign on portion that reads Ryder
Directional signs shall be non illuminated and shall not exceed 6 sq. ft and a height of 42".
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The top course of the 6 ft. high wall shall be precision block to match the design of the front
building.
10. The pilasters on the building shall be split face block.
SECOND: Richard Cavecche
AYES: Richard Cavecche,
Erika Wolfe
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris Steven Prothero and
MOTION CARRIED
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Continued Items -
(2) DRB No. 2925
John and Grace Aou
341 E. Lincoln Ave.
R. C. Colin
Landscape and irrigation plans for 9-unit
residential condominium.
R-3 (Residential Multiple Family) District
The applicants and/or representatives were not present at the meeting to address issues and concerns.
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(3) DRB No. 3114
Union Bank Square
550 S. Main St. (S.W.C. at La Veta)
Stacy Dukes Design
Revised monument sign submittal for an office
building
C-2 (General Business) District
Southwest Redevelopment Project Area
The applicants and/or representatives were not present at the meeting to address issues and concerns.
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(4) DRB No. 3133
Citrus City Grille
122 N. Glassell St.
Chris Light
Full service restaurant with proposed
improvements including new/upgrade facade,
outdoor courtyard and 22 space parking lot.
C-1 (Limited Business) District; Old Towne
Lisa Blanc, Chris Light and Bob Mickelson presented landscape and irrigation plans.
Timothy McCormack stated numerous landscaping concerns such as mirroring the landscape plan in the
parking lot to the opposite side, underplant front area, as well as list landscape specifications on the
landscape and irrigation plans. The board and applicants discussed the issue of "mirror landscaping" the
parking lot.
The board also stated that lighting fixtures in the parking lot must be period fixtures as called out in the
Old Towne Design Standards, not shoe box fixtures as indicated on plans.
MOTION by Timothy McCormack for approval subject to the following:
Add trees on other side of parking lot. One option, if there is a financial hardship, is to reduce one
tree as shown on plan.
2. Change the Camphor to a Tristania or another vertical upright tree.
Add irrigation to planters on the other side.
4. Substitute Dietes Vegata with Dietes Bicolor.
Underplant the Martha Washington with alyssum seed to cover bare dirt.
6. Landscape architect to verify with Rain Bird manufacturer that the valves will actuate on and off.
7. Add trenching detail -mainline depth not clear.
Change lighting fixture from shoe box to period lighting fixture.
Final architectural drawings to come back to DRB for review to clarify modified detail in front
area.
SECOND: Erika Wolfe
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero, and
Erika Wolfe
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Staff Recommendations and Requirements
• Up size one Camphor tree to 24" box to meet DRB tree planting requirements.
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New Proposals -
(5) DRB No. 3144
Gold Coast Enterprises Freestanding sign and wall sign.
1518 W. Taft Ave. M-2 (Industrial) District
RPM Signs/Larry Root
Larry Root, property owner, presented plans as the representative from RPM Signs was unable to attend
the meeting.
Erika Wolfe explained that an exposed raceway is not allowed.
Mr. Root suggested individual letters mounted on the wall.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the sign as follows:
1. Eliminate raceway and install individual letters mounted directly to the building.
2. Backgrounds of any sign faces must be opaque (no light penetrating the sign).
3. Sign colors approved as presented.
4. Applicant has option of returning to the board with backlit letters or any minor changes.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero, and
Erika Wolfe
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED
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New Proposals -
(6) DRB No. 3146
Texaco Marketing -Refining
2640 N. Santiago Blvd.
Jack Gray
40' sign for freeway visibility.
Zoning Administrator action required.
C-TR (Commercial), Tustin Redevelopment
Project Area
Jack Gray and Mazen Bahu presented the sign plans.
The board stated concern with recent trends for taller signs as well as more freeway signs on the east side
of the freeway.
Steven Prothero asked to see the entire sign package for the site.
MOTION by Erika Wolfe to continue this item to May 8, 1996 so the board may review photographs
depicting signage for the entire site.
SECOND: Steven Prothero
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Erika Wolfe
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(7) DRB No. 3147
Chapman Storage, LP Self-storage at McPherson & Chapman
2845 E. Chapman Ave. C1 (Limited Business) District
Bart Hansen (Nieupointe Enterprises)
Bart Hansen (Nieupointe Enterprises) and Tim Schwan (Custom Signs) represented Chapman Storage, LP
and presented plans. A variance is requested from the Zoning Administrator relative to the front setback
and the height of the sign.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the sign as it is designed; however, due to the narrow frontage of
the property, reduce the square footage of the sign. Also, delete the telephone number from the sign and
replace with "Entry on McPherson".
SECOND: Richard Cavecche
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, and Steven Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Erika. Wolfe
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(8) DRB No. 3148
K & D Graphics Sign program (restaurant, printing company,
Orange County Badminton Club badminton club)
1432 N. Main St. M2 (Industrial) District
Robert McDonald
Robert McDonald presented plans for the signs.
The board expressed concern with the size of the signs, noting that plans were rather difficult to read with
regard to scale.
Mr. McDonald also noted that the colors on the rendering for the monument sign are not true. The colors
on the monument sign will actually match the colors of the building.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the color of the text; the monument sign (logo not required to be
opaque -translucent finish for white face and OCBC letters only with white vinyl diffuser to limit
luminescence of the panel).
Wall signs shall conform to the area limitations based on each individual face of the building.
(Subject to verification by staff that the sign meets code requirements).
1. Wall sign shall be installed minimum 2' down from top of parapet
2. Monument sign shall be placed outside of the 15' x 15' triangle area adjacent to the driveway.
Building address number "1432" shall be same scale as the "Orange County Badminton Club" text
size.
SECOND: Richard Cavecche
AYES: Richard Cavecche,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Erika Wolfe
Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, and Steven Prothero
MOTION CARRIED