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1996-04-03 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange Design Review Board MINUTES for Wednesday, April 3, 1996 Board Members Present: Board Members Absent: Richard Cavecche Steven McHarris Tim McCormack Steven Prothero (Chair) Erika Wolfe Staff in Attendance: Dan Ryan, Senior Planner /Historic Preservation Howard Moms, Landscape Coordinator Pat Schulz, Recording Secretary Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M. The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjourned at approximately 7:20 P.M. City of Orange • Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 3, 1996 Page 2 Regular Session - S: 00 P.M. Mr. Prothero (Chair) opened the meeting and asked whether board members had any comments about, or revisions to, the meeting minutes for March 20, 1996. Jim Donovan (staff) submitted corrections as follows: Item No. 1 DRB 3134; Century Theatres (page 4, paragraph 1) Richard Cavecche asked whether there were any regulatory issues concerning the "sail-like" sign. Jim Donovan (staff) stated that the fin wall does not exceed the height limit for this zone. Staff considers it to be a wall sign, and the architect is actually responding to a desire expressed by the Plaza Design Collaborative to see a tall landmark at this location, which is aligned with the Katella Avenue corridor. Richard Cavecche recalled an additional condition of approval: Item No. 1 DRB 3134; Century Theatres (pale 4) 10. Design Review Board shall review final exterior finish treatment as well as color. MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the meeting minutes with the aforementioned corrections. SECOND: Richard Cavecche AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, and Steven Prothero NOES: None ABSENT: Erika Wolfe MOTION CARRIED City of Orange • Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 3, 1996 Page 3 Regular Session -Consent Calendar Mr. Prothero (Chair) stated that item No. 8 on this agenda, DRB 3145, Bryan Fitzpatrick, 7009 E. Hidden Oaks Road, appeared appropriate for approval as submitted. MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the proposal as submitted with one condition that the project meet the fuel modification requirements as regulated by the Fire Department. SECOND: Richard Cavecche AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, and Steven McHarris NOES: None ABSENT: Erika Wolfe ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange • Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 3, 1996 Page 4 Regular Session - S: 00 P.M. Continued Items - (1) DRB No. 2927 Orange Housing Development Corporation 500 N. Orange St. Glen Matsui Landscape and irrigation plans R-3 (Residential Multiple Family) District Glen Matsui, landscape architect, represented the applicant in presenting revised landscape and irrigation plans and explained changes. MOTION by Timothy McCormack to approve the following changes to landscape and irrigation plans as follows: 1. Move tristania couferna, brisbane box away from concrete driveway. 2. Move controller to an exterior weatherproof position in the carport to the south portion of the site. 3. Modify landscaping at the corner by taking flax out and replacing with Lantana. 4. Utilize Hans ivy. 5. Add street tree and verify with Howard Morris to match the existing pecan on the street, if possible. 6. Applicant to return to DRB with landscape and irrigation plans for final review. SECOND: Steven McHarris AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven Prothero and Steven McHarris NOES: None ABSENT: Erika Wolfe ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange • Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 3, 1996 Page S (2) DRB No. 3127 Carol & Carol Harnack 546 E. Culver Ave. John Siller, Engineer Final landscape and irrigation plans R2-6 (Duplex Residential) Old Town District Carl and Carol Harnack presented landscape and irrigation plans. The board discussed concerns regarding moving landscape materials (plants, shrubs and trees) from the Orange Street site to the new Culver site. Concerns included placement of certain foliage as far as exposure to sun and shade as well as water needs (drip vs. spray). Also of concern was the mix of certain plants, aesthetically as well as survivability. Another concern was irrigation. The board informed the applicants that drip systems and regular spray systems could not run from the same circuits. All areas are required to be imgated. Numerous plants were recommended for screening purposes. The board ultimately advised that the applicants inlist in the aid of a landscape architect to help organize the landscaping. The board was emphatic about the importance of a professional landscape architect to help the applicants determine which plants should be moved as well as where they would be placed. If specific care is not taken, the likelihood of plant survival is practically nil, thus incurring a greater monetary loss for the applicants than the cost of hiring a landscape architect. More discussion ensued regarding time of completion with regard to initial occupancy in Phase I of the landscaping. It was agreed upon by the board and the Harnacks that landscaping would be complete no later than 9 months after occupancy of the front home. MOTION by Steven Prothero 1. Recommend selecting alternate material due to incompatibility for T4 - Redbud 15 gal, monitor and if live put in mulch area 2. Eucalyptus silverdollar -recommend relocating out of garden location Cactus garden -recommend omitting Juniper and replace with Palo Verde, something more appropriate for a cactus environment. 4. F 14 the area east of the garage between garage and fence line (approx. 3 feet) recommend in lieu of what is proposed use pitisporum undulatum or alternate prunis caroling. "bright and tight" F 1 foundation planting at front of house, in addition to Calla Lilies a compact shrub be placed as a boarder plant. Dwarf Karo spaced 3' on center. Hose bib -irrigation coming from house -noise - run a perimeter pressure line and not come from the house. 7. Recommend single vacuum breaker rather than multiple air gaps at each valve location. City of Orange • Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 3, 1996 Page 6 8. Phase I is defined as the south side of the driveway to the front house forward to the street. In addition, any major plants on the south section of the property along the perimeter also be included as part of Phase I. The landscaping in the Phase I area must be completed within 3 months after occupancy of the front house. Landscaping of the remaining portion of the property must be completed within 9 months after completion of the front property (which is Phase I) and prior to occupancy of the rear house. 9. Any plants that fail upon transfer from the Orange Street site to the Culver Street site shall be replaced. 10. Mulch material must be minimum 2 inches. 11. Recommend that applicant retain a professional for irrigation design and plant zones/locations. SECOND: Timothy McCormack AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, and Steven Prothero NOES: None ABSENT: Erika Wolfe ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED Staff Recommendations and Requirements Add City required landscape inspection notes. City of Orange • Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 3, 1996 Page 7 (3) DRB No. 3140 Frank Valdez (Andy's Ace Hardware) 420 W. Lincoln Avenue Bill Henigsman Wall sign proposal for existing retail use. C-2(General Business) District Bill Henigsman, T & T Neon Sign Company presented revised plans. Mr. Henigsman explained the conduits running through the raceway and bottom feeding the individual letters of the sign. MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the proposed sign as follows: A four inch raceway on the bottom with the color of the raceway can either match the letters or the trim caps. 2. Ace shall be red letters. 3. Andy's and Hardware shall be black and white Plexiglas. 4. Trim caps shall be bronze and underscore shall be either red or bronze. Ballaster shall be remote mounted perpendicular to sign face, behind the sign face or be grouped in one can, 6 inches high. 6. Conduit feed on the building shall be flush on the roof. SECOND: Richard Cavecche AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHams, and Steven Prothero ABSENT: Erika Wolfe ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange • Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 3, 1996 Page 8 (4) DRB No. 3143 John & Lisa Bishop 265 N. Shaffer Second story room addition to single story residence. Recommendation to Planning Commission on CUP to permit 2nd story. R-2-6 (Residential Duplex, 6000 sq. ft. min.) Old Town District Richard Cavecche excused himself from participating in the discussion and subsequent voting on this project due to a conflict of interest (neighbor to applicants). Mr. John Bishop presented the revised plans to the board and explained changes. Steven Prothero (Chair) commented that the revisions (lowering the scale of the building) show vast improvement. When two solid planes meet, it creates an awkward corner. He suggested cutting the wall back 8 " to give more area for the roof. The prupose is twofold, separating the two planes and creating more roof mass. Mr. Bishop proposed applying a river rock veneer over the stucco portion at the bottom of the structure. Mr. Prothero suggested extending the clapboard down over that area. Mr. McHarris suggested utilizing a drip line in lieu of shrub heads to keep water offthe house if the clapboard is extended. MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the proposal subject to the following conditions: 1. All materials and colors match existing. 2. Extend roof from main house back to east 2 feet beyond master bathroom addition. 3. Pull master bath wall north 8 inches to offset it from the plane of the main house. 4. Extend downstairs study two (2) feet to the north to correct plan discrepancies. 5. The shed dormer window constructed to be multi-pane, or stained glass in lieu of a single light. 6. Per applicants request: a. Use river rock on planter wall and on pier bases of columns at rear of house. b. Match existing height from grade of first course of clapboard siding on new addition. SECOND: Steven McHarris AYES: Timothy McCormack, Steven McHams, and Steven Prothero NOES: None ABSENT: Erika Wolfe ABSTAINED: Richard Cavecche MOTION CARRIED City of Orange • Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 3, 1996 Page 9 New Proposals - (5) DRB No. 3114 Union Bank Square 550 S. Main St. (S.W.C. at LaVeta) Stacy Dukes Design Revised monument sign submittal for an office building C-2 (General Business) District Southwest Redevelopment Project Area The applicants and/or representatives were not present at the meeting to address issues and concerns. Steven Prothero (Chair) made a motion to continue this item to April 17, 1996. SECOND: Steven McHarris AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, and Steven Prothero NOES: None ABSENT: Erika Wolfe ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange • Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 3, 1996 Page 10 (6) DRB No. 3131 Denny's Neon boarder on existing pole sign. 3000 W. Chapman Ave. C-2 (General Business) District Lauri Permits Squeak Costner from Lauri's Permit Service was in attendance representing the applicant. Mr. Costner relayed the applicant's request for a neon tube boarder around the opaque pole sign. Other Denny's sites that have illuminated signs do not have neon boarders. Steven Prothero (Chair) stated for the record, his disappointment in the gable roof modification at the Lincoln Avenue site. The tiles were stated to match the existing tiles in texture, size and color. The new tiles do not match the existing tiles at the Lincoln site, and looks like a "tacky" on. Steven McHarris stated that the proposed changes to the sign will not affect the daytime look (bulk, mass, etc.). Since the neon boarder is green rather than red and does not flicker, it will not be a distraction. MOTION by Steven McHarris to approve the application as presented, noting that the neon tubing is a minor alteration to illumination (a nighttime feature for the sign) which does not affect the daytime look of the sign. The neon tubing is strictly for the existing pole sign only. SECOND: Richard Cavecche AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, and Steven Prothero NOES: None ABSENT: Erika Wolfe ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange • Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 3, 1996 Page 11 (7) DRB No. 3144 Gold Coast Enterprises 1518 W. Taft Ave. RPM Signs (Larry Christian) Freestanding sign and wall sign. M-2 (Industrial) District The applicants and/or representatives were not present at the meeting to address issues and concerns. Steven Prothero (Chair) made a motion to continue this item to April 17, 1996. SECOND: Steven McHarris AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, and Steven Prothero NOES: None ABSENT: Erika Wolfe ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED