1997-10-08 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, October 8, 1997
Board Members Present: Rick Cavecche
Tian McCormack
Steven McHarris
Steve Prothero (Chair)
Board Members Absent: Robert Reilly
Staff ~n Attendance: ChLlck Lau, Associate Planner
Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjoun~ed at
approximately 7:30 P.M.
Regular Session - S: 30 P.M.
Steve Prothero opened the meeting. Review and approval of the September 3, 1)97 and the
September 17, 1997 minutes were deferred to the October 22, 1997 meeting.
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(1) DRB No. 3252
James C. Buchanan
271 N. Cambridge
Gerald Muir
• New two car garage, attached work
shop/laundry/boat storage and demolition
of existing garage.
• R-1-6 (Residential -Single Family District)
Mr. Buchanan presented plans and stated that the siding (exterior finish) would aesthetically match the
existing horizontal siding using vinyl rather than redwood. Redwood is not a good siding, needing
continual maintenance. It doesn't hold paint well.
Discussion ensued regarding siding, windows, doors and roofing, that all new materials match existing.
Findings:
• The proposed replacement structure is consistent with the 01d Towne Design Guide Lincs.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
1. Casing/trim profile shall match existing on garage doors, man doors and windows.
2. New columns shall match existing.
3. Windows shall be wood with multiple break-up as indicated.
4. It is recommended that the garage door be flat panel rather than raised panel. (Lights O.IC.)
5. Roofing material shall match existnlg.
6. Material for siding to be reviewed as follows:
• Vinyl -submit sample to Design Review Board
• Redwood or other types of wood -approved by Planning staff.
• Composite material -submit sample to Dan Ryan, Senior Planner, Historic Preservation
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHar~is, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
~lE3STAINI:D: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(2) DRB No. 3253
John & Kimberly Atkinson
604 W. Palmyra Avenue
• New bathroom addition, laundry room and
garage attachment.
• R-2 (Residential -Duplex District)
Applicant not present
MOTION by Steve Prothero to continue the project.
SECOND: Steve McHarris
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHanis, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(3) DRB No. 3257
Rite Aid
1845 E. Chapman Avenue
Nadel Architects
• Facade Remodel of existing shopping
center (Thrifty Drugs)
• C-1 (Limited Business District)
Michael Smith, project manager for Rite Aid presented the project to the DRB. Mr. Smith explained that
the concept was to match the theme of the center (Orange Square), and at the same time retain their trade
dress which is the awning and also the diamond shape windows. The old roof top equipment would be
replaced with packaged units which are considerably lower at approximately 48 inches high.
The DRB expressed concerns as follows:
• Screening of the existing roof mounted mechanical equipment and whether or not the new
raised parapet roof height is high enough to effectively screen it from view. A sight line
study should be prepared to address this issue.
• East building elevation facing Wayfield Street. Tlus elevation is very visible from Chapman
Avenue and therefore should be provided with the same design treatment.
• New awning seem rather large and out of scale in relationship to the storefront. Perhaps the
parapet needs to be raised, or lower the awning.
• Bacl: lighted awning sign: Opaque background preferred. Accessory signs are not allowed.
MOT[ON by Steven Prothero to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
1. Match existing brick wainscoting.
2. All roof top equipment shall be properly screened from view. Submit sight line study to
staff for verification.
3. Continue the architectural treahnent along the east building elevation a minimum distance of
40 ft. from the street (Chapman Avenue), to include the cornice banding,
4. Maintain minimum 5 ft. distance between the top of the awning and the bottom of the
cornice line. This may be accomplished by either raising the parapet height, or lowering the
awning.
5. Continue review of the awning and signage for further study of the fabric material and
illumination. Applicant to inform staff of the location of an existing store in the City of
Santa Monica that has an illuminated awning. Applicant to submit photographs of the
existing store and a material sample of the awning fabric.
G. Any modification of the existing landscaping must be submitted to the DRB for review.
SECOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHanis, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTr'~INED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(4) DRB No.3258
Enterprise Rent-A-Car
1997 N. Orange Olive Road "A"
Outdoor Advertising & Lighting, Inc.
• New replacement wall signs for a car rental
agency
• C-1 (Limited Business District)
The project was presented by David Bliss -Outdoor Advertising & Lighting, Inc., and .left ,
Enterprise Rent-A-Car. The proposal is to replace the existing wall signs with their new
corporate trademark identity.
The llRB asked for clarification on the type of wall sign being proposed. The submitted plans
are somewhat confusing in that it appears as a "can" sign on the elevation plan, but it is specified
as individual channel letters on the section plans. The applicant was informed that City
ordinance prohibits the use of the telephone numbers on signs.
The applicant replied that "Enterprise" is made of individual channel letters, the "e" logo is a
2'x2' can, and the "1-800 rent-a-car" is a silhouette can sign. The telephone. number is part of
their corporate trademark identity and therefore is used on their signage.
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
1. Eliminate telephone ntiunber "1-800" from wall and freestanding signs to comply with City
ordinance. The remaining verbiage "rent-a-car" is acceptable as they are not numbers.
2. Installation of the wall sign shall be centered equal distance between the top reveal line
above the window awning, and the bottom of the reveal of the parapet line.
3. Provide an opaque background on the black color portion of the sign face.
SCCOND: Steve McHarris
AYCS; Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHan~is, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
A13SIJNT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(5) DRB No. 3259
Ewing Properties
Southeast corner, Town & Country Drive
and Main Street
Architects Orange
Major Site Plan Review 43-97
• Building elevations and landscape plan
• Proposed demolition and reconstruction of
a retail shopping center in C-2 zone
(General Business District)
The project was presented Jack Selman, Architects Orange. The proposal is to demolish the
existing southerly portion of the Town & Country Shopping Center and replace it with another
retail center of approximately the same size. One of the primary objective of this project is to
retain as many of the existing mature specimen trees as possible, while still allowing for an
efficient utilization of fl1e site. The architecture is of contemporary design.
The board felt comfortable with the overall design concept. The next step would be to further
development the plans with more refinement and detail.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to continue review of the project to the October 22, 1997 meeting
with the following suggestions:
1. Provide additional trees to screen the back side of the 13,000 sq.ft. retail pad building at the
northwest corner of the site.
2. Provide additional trees along the east and south property line.
3. Lntry drive aisles to be fiirther enhanced with landscaping.
4. Further refine building elevations. (Provide elevations for all 4 sides of the buildings).
5. Pedestrian access should be further studied. (Applicant to verify with City Public Works
Department to determine if new public sidewallcs are required along Town & Country Road.
6. Select alternative parking lot grove trees.
7. Enhance site corners for site and building with both building elevation and landscaping
solutions.
8. Further refine site plan.
9. Signage to be submitted separately for review.
SIJCOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHai-~-is, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED