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1997-07-09 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange Design Review Board MINUTES for Wednesday, July 9, 1997 Board Members Present: Richard Cavecche Tim McCormack Steven McHarris Steve Profllero (Chair) Robert Reilly Board Members Absent: None Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner James Donovan, Associate Planner Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator Adininist~ative Session - 4: 30 P.M. The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjourned at approximately 8:45 P.M. City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for July 9, 1997 Page 2 Regular Session - S: 00 P.M. Steven Prothero opened the meeting and asked whether board members had any comments or revisions to the meeting minutes for June 4, 1997 and June 18, 1997. A motion was made by Ricl: Cavecche to approve the minutes for June 4, 1997 with the following corrections: DRB No. ~i 134 ~Century Theatersl page 2, condition #3, amended as follows: 3. Annual colors plant material shall be spaced 6 inches on center rather than 12 inches. DRB No. ~ 188~Woodside Plazal page 4, condition #1, amended as follows: Awnings shall be opaque and be provided wifl~ side skirt and mesh return underneath to accormnodate internal fluorescent lights. DRB No X222 Mall of Orangel page 11 vara~ph #3 sentences #I amended as follows: Steve Prothero stated that he is personally not very fond of this heahnent, as it is not consistent architecturally with the existing mall' architecture. DRB No 3223~Chapnlan University page 12 Para r~aph #3 sentence #6 amended as follows: The ~" base wraps the entire first floor of the facility. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormick, Steve McHanis, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NQES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for July 9, 1997 Page 3 A motion was made by Tim McCormack to approve the minutes for June 18, 1997 with the following coi7ections: DRI3 No. 3223 (Chapman UniversitX Ua~e 9,~~ara~ph #2, sentences #1, #4 and #5 amended as follows: Another item is that the building shall be std sited in a manner that will be compatible with adjacent buildings and landscape. The next item is that the buildings should be sld~d sited so that it does not block solar access to offside residential. He is not comfortable with the fact that some of the buildings cis-net niay cast a shadow on the residential buildings on the north. DRB No. 3227 (Papa John's PizzaLpage 13. condition #6, amended as follows: 6. Provide a mesh shield undenieath the awning to conceal Iight fixture. DRB No 3230 (City of Orange Civic Centerl pa~5 condition #1 amended as follows: Suggest replacing Arrhenathenm~ Elatius Bulbosum "Variegatmn" (Bulbous Oat Grass), Brunsfelsia (Yesterday -Today - tomorrow), and Osmanthus Fragrans (Sweet Olive), with alternative plant materials which are more proven, such as Rephiolepis, Asian Jasmine, Pittorsporum, etc., to pe~for~n in varied solar orientation positions around the bz~ilding. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCoi7nick, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: Rick Cavecche, Steve McHarris MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meetirzg Minutes for July 9, 1997 Page 4 (1) DRB No. 3231 Chapman University Law School (Orange Intermediate School site) 370 N. Glassell Street Albert C. Martin & Associates • Demolition of all existing structures, except facade of historic building • Proposed 4-story academic building comprised of 120,000 square feet • Chapman Specific Plan, Old Towne Mr. Al McQuitkin, Director of Facilities Management for Chapman University, introduced Bob Mui7~in, Project Manager and Ed Holalciewicz, Project Designer, from A. C. Martin Partners. Mr. Holalciewicz began by explaining that the School of Law is fundamentally two buildings in one that has been designed as two wings. One component on the north side against Sycamore Avenue is the law library. The first two floors of the law library house the stacks (175,000 volumes) and reading areas far the students. The third floor is the support space for the technicians, librarians and laboratories for the education of library research. The south wing is the student activities wing. The first two floors house a series of classrooms of various sizes ranging from 30 to 90 students. The third floor is primarily student activities -group meetings, group study and other activities that are student based in nature. The middle of the building, directly behind the historical facade, is a two-story lobby space, which is the main enhance to the facility. The third floor is the administrative wing for the entire school. Spanning the two wings, on the top floor, are the faculty offices. It was organized in two separate buildings and also in terms of activities with the day to day use functions on the ground floor and as one goes up into the building, it becomes quieter and more private. The functions assigned to the building are dictated by the American Bar Association. The design of the exterior was inspired by a series of influences. At the middle of it all was the historic building and the edifice that has a significance to the community. Eighty years ago the architect was originally influenced by the historic Basilica in Bologna, Italy. The original facade has been incorporated into the new design of the building. The building is large, 120,000 square feet, and everything feasible has been done to compact the building. The third and fourth floors arc purposely stepped back from the facade so it (the facade) can still be preserved as an element and can be celebrated as the enhance into the building. The building has been embellished quite a bit with brick and the detailing. However, the richest embellishment is the entrance. Secondary entrances to the building are embellished but not to the same degree as the main enhance facade. The window breala~p has been modulated. Originally a pattern of three windows going along Sycamore was changed to two windows, which is more in keeping with the original existing building. The window module at the front of the building was modified with Anne Siebert and the 1-Iistoric Preservation Association. The embellishment on the tower makes the tower a significant object for the campus and the community. The building is setback ~5 ft. fi-om Glassell Sheet (curb face), which exceeds code requirement, and setback 25 ft. from Sycamore Avenue. The third floor also steps back to be a little more responsive to the lower scale residential structures. There is a colonnade of bees along City of Orange - Des[arz Review 13ourd 1~leetlrzg Minutes for Jz~ly 9, I >97 Pcr~e S Sycamore Avenue that includes series of citrus trees alternated with a series of palm trees to screen the building. There is also a grand entrance into the back, as most of the parking is there, with a cafe. The ground floor will have a very open feeling. The perimeter of the building is at grade. From the front entrance there are two steps into the building. Handicap access to the front of the building has been addressed without the need for exotic handicap ramps. Tim McCormack asked what is the intent and relationship with the fiont courtyard, fl1e lobby, the back courtyard, parking lot and parking structure? It appears that perhaps a drop off area could be incorporated that would serve as a celebrated terminus in the parking lot. The parking structure serves not only the Law School, bnt the entire campus. The parking requirement is rather small in comparison. Parking will accommodate 750 to 800 cars which exceeds what is required for maximum enrollment for over 500 students. The plan at this time is to construct a parking lot and perhaps an access road. The ABA has presented questions regarding future expansion of the Law School. Richard Cavecche complemented the building design, and posed the question to staff. The fact that this is a State Historical Registered Building, does the Board have any specific or additional responsibilities in regard to the building Tack McGee, Community Development Director, stated that since there are no State or Federal money involved with the project, which would be a bigger to some specific requirements, it is up to local jurisdiction as to how it is to be dealt with. As long as it is consistent with the City's Old Towne Design Guidelines, it would be in compliance. A Historic Mitigation Plan was submitted with the Amendment to the Specific Plan specifically for this project. Jim Donovan, Associate Planner, stated that there was an EIR prepared and certified that addressed the potential expansion of this site in 1989. The environmental decision is based on that pre-existing enviromnental impact report. Richard Cavecche raised concerns with the amount of the historical facade that is being retained. That existing facade appeals to be swallowed by the new structure. Looking directly from across Glassell, you can get a good feel for what was there and what is being done with the structure. As you look at the elevations as you are driving down the street, you really don't notice, or see, anything in relation to the historical building. It is almost hidden. Is there a way to expand the width of the courtyard to allow a better view of the historic structure? The second concern is with the elevation on Glassell Street. Is there any way to step the third floor back more, as it is such an abrupt structure? Also, is clear glass being used for the two story windows for the library and lecture halls? The challenge was to keep the mass down and keep the fourth floor as small as possible. As for the windows, it would be predominately clear glass; a spandrel or fritted glass. T'ritted glass is Cite ofOrange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for July 9, 1997 Page 6 speckled to reduce visibility and at the same time adds depfll. It is also an architectural devise to bring the scale of the building down. Steve Prothero also complimented the basic design of the Law School, but has concerns with its monochromatic look He concurs with Mr. Cavecche with regard to the relationship with the facade to the building. The north end appears to be a difficult marriage. Is there any way to relocate a portion of the north wing element to give a little more width to that corridor? That issue would have to be re-evaluated. One of the problems that keeps appearing is that the library component is about 45,000 to 48,000 gross square feet of the total building area. Unfortunately, it needs to stay together. Mr. Cavecche asked if the entire building could be pushed back further to expose more of the existing facade. That issue was considered. However, that limits future expansion and it depends on the footprint of the parking lot. The DRB asked if some of the embellishments, brick work, etc. could be incorporated in the design of the new shucture, tying it in with the historic facade. 1'he schematic phase is ending while the design development phase is beginning. As this takes place, the design will experience fine tuning. There is a very fine line between borrowing historic fabric, and just putting it on the building where places don't deserve it. I-historically, not just with this building, but with architectzue in general, the entrance is the place of most embellishment because it is the most special part of the building. We don't want to embellish for embellishment's sake, but only where appropriate. It has been studied and brick detail (rotated brick patten7) is being considered. This phase is beginning to evolve. The building is being designed in such a manner to bring the two structures together with an appreciation for the old and the new. Steve Prothero expressed concerns with the rear entry. It appears to have very little mass yet it has a heave file roof. The issue of the rear entry needs further study. The use of pitched roof rather than a flat roof is appreciated. Steven McHarris expressed appreciation for the changes presented. One concern is base of the building with regard to the material, and the use of coiner embellishments on the building. During consultation with the Old Towne Preservation Association, it was noted that the original building did have a base line. A secondary cornice line has also been added. 'hhe building is a combination of California Mission, Italian and Classical styles, and one has to he very careful not to over-embellish. Mr. McHarris also stated that he was uncomfortable wifli the trellis in the back. Mr. McHan-is would also like to connect the campus with pedestrian pavers on Glassell Street or some other means of connection. Cite of Orange - Design X eview Board Meeting Minutes for July 9, 1997 Page ~' Mr. McHarris stated that during construction of the new portion of the building, portions of the original facade to be retained would have to be removed, particularly the roof. The pardons removed would be put back as part of construction. Mr. Prothero invited public comment. Joan Crawford, Old Tovv~ze resident, suggested that the windows facing Glassell be changed from two stogy windows to two one story windows. This way they would all be in the same scale and the outside windows wouldn't dwarf the facade. Steven Prothero stated that this suggestion may reduce the elements of the scale but may actually increase the visual height of the building. Anne Seibert stated that persons fiom OTPA met with the architects several times and they have taken in several of their ideas. Concern were expressed with the trellis in that it adds nothing to the building, and it actually detracts from the grandeur of the original facade. Mr. Dean Heiser, OTPA Board member, commended the University and the architects for their patience iu dealing with outside suggestions. He also noted some of the changes that have been made and expressed approval, stating that flee Law School will be a building that Chapman University and the Ciry of Orange can be proud of. Mary Anne Stopanich, from OTPA, also complimented the University and the architects for doing their best to incorporate a lot of the OTPA's ideas and is pleased that the revisions on the new building reflect a more unified look with the facade. Also the color being all white helps achieve fllat effect. Ms. Stopanich also does not care for the trellis effect. Mr. Tom Matusak expressed approval of the revisions and shared concern with the mullions that surround the building have become pretty much common place in Southern California and may make the building look obviously 1997. He further stated that the Campanile is going to be a visual anchor for the whole town. Where there is a reference to a clock, it would be mice to see numerals that make reference to 1915, the date of the original facade. Mr. Prothero inquired about the schedule for next level of detail Mr. McQuillcin responded that they should be through with the design development phase and start construction documents in early August. It is the hope of flee University that it can be open for class one year from this fall. That is why approval toiuglat is so critical. MOTION by. Rick Cavecche to approve the preliminary plans on a conceptual basis, subject to the following conditions: 1. Approval of the structure as shown with the revisions as indicated in the July 9, 199? presentation. City of Orange - Desigiz Review Board ll~leeting Miizutes for Ji-ply 9, 1997 .E'age 8 Prior to issuance of building permits, final site plan, building elevations and landscape plans shall be submitted to the Design Review Board for approval. Final plans shall include details, lighting, finish material and colors, along with hardscape and landscape plans. Additionally, the parking structure needs to be further developed in concept rather than just the overall footprint. SECOND: Steve McHarris AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormick, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED Cite of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for July 9, 1997 Page 9 (2) DRB No. 3232 The Golden Maize Restaurant 264 N. Glassell Street John Turner • Front patio remodel of an existing restaurant site. • C-2 (General Business District) Mrs. Claudia Vanle, the owner of the new restaurant, and John Turner, Project Designer, presented the project. This is the former Tony's Mexican Restaurant that will be changed to the Golden Maze Restaurant. The proposal is to renovate the front outdoor patio dining area by ren7oving the existing 6 ft high wall and replace it with a 3 ft. high wall. The new wall would be setback approximately 2 ft. for a planter strip along the front property line. The two existing trees will be removed due to surface roof problems. The patio floor would be re-paved with backs. The board expressed concerns with the removal of the existing Sycamore trees. If new trees are planted, it should have a large canopy to provide shading for the dining. The new trees should not cause surface root problems in the future if it is watered properly. Platanus Mexicana is suggested. MOTION by Tian McCormack to approve the project subject to the following conditions: 1. The 2 existing flees shall be replaced with 2 Platanus Mexicana (24 inch box, multiple trunk variety, similar to the flavor and ambiance of the existing trees). 2. Provide square or semi-circular shaped planters at the bases of the arch columns, and 2 planter pots at the 2 side of the entry, for the planting of Bougainvillea Vines. 3. Provide 2 climbing roses at the flanking sides of the trellis. 4. Provide a small planting strip along the inside of the new wall and plant with some type of hedge shrub or annual color. 5. Provide 2 Roses (Hybrid Tea), one at each outside corner of the new wall. 6. Provide Annual Color (4" pot at 6" on center) along planter strip on outside of the new wall. ?. Provide automatic sn-sgation. The 2 trees to be separately irrigated. 8. Final landscape and irrigation to be suspected and approved by Community Services Department Staff. SECOND: Steve McHan-ss AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormick, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for July 9, 1997 Page 10 (3) DRB No. 3233 K Mart New wall sign for an existing retail store 1855 N. Tustin Street C-TR (Commercial -Tustin Street Acme Wiley Corporation Redevelopment District) (Project approved on the Consent Calendar) MOTION by Tim McCormack to approve the project as submitted. SECOND: Rick Cavecche AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormick, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: Robert Reilly MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for Jz~ly 9. 1997 Page 11 (4) DRB No. 3234 Chevron Building elevations and landscape plan for 1702 N. Tustin Street proposed redevelopment of an auto RFA, Inc./Jackie McGinnis service station with a retail building • C-TR (Commercial -Tustin Street Redevelopment District) The project was presented by Jackie McGinnis -RFA, Inc. The proposal is to completely renovate the entire site and construct a new building and pump island canopy. Also proposed is anew sig~~ program for the new project. The site plan reflects the future right-of-way take along Tustin Street. This is a prototype design that is constant with other new or renovated Chevron stations. The DRB expressed concerns with the amount of miscellaneous signs being proposed on the building and on the fuel pump island canopy. City code allows for small accessory signs, provided such signs do not exceed 8 sq.ft. per sign face, and an aggregate area of 24 sq.ft.. Pump island canopy signs are also allowed, provided such signs do not exceed 20 sq.ft. per sign, and an aggregate area of 80 sq.ft. The DRB also discussed some alternative solutions for the location handicap parking space. MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the project subject to the following conditions: 1. Signage shall comply with City ordinance. The "Food Mart" and "Chevron" signs are considered as wall signs. The " 24 hrs." and "Point-of Sale" signs are considered as miscellaneous signs. 2. Re-configure the planting area along the north property line to align with the drive aisle to the parking lot of the adjoining shopping center. 3. Extend the planter area along the entire length of the west property line out to Taft Avenue and continue with Rhaphiolepis planting matenal. 4. Roof top mounted equipment shall be properly screened. The proposed use of ACM Composite Metal Panels) for screening is acceptable. The use of wood material is not acceptable because it is prone to deterioration. Provide alternative screening material. 5. Recommend relocating the handicap parking space to stalls number 1 & 2, to allow for improved pedestrian access. 6. Ivy Geranium and White Gazania planting material shall be planted at 8" on center (Mats acceptable). Annual Color planting material shakl be 4"pots planted at 6" on center. 7. Add 3 tl-ees along Taft Avenue, one at the coi7zer next to the freestanding sign, and 2 at the planter area between the 2 driveways. Recommended bees: Platanus, Koelreuteria, Niagnokia, Elm9 or Canotwood. b. Add one tree at the east side of the trash enclosure for screening. 9. Recommend use of Boston Ivy in lieu of Bougainvillea at trash enclosure. City of Orange -Design Review 13oarct Meeting Minutes for July ~, 1997 Page 12 S>/COND: Tim McCormack AYES: Rick Caveccbe, Tim McCoi7nick, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for July 9, 1997 Page 13 (5) DRB No. 3236 City of Orange -Community Services Belmont Park - 4536 E. Via Escola Cathcart/Begin Associates • Improvements to existing building and playground • P-C (Planned Community) The project was presented by Howard Morris of Community Service Departi~~ent. The DRB is concealed with the design of the restroom building being rather out-dated. "I'he building also lacked adequate ventilation. Tim McCormack discussed the issue of "Fall Zone" at the tot lot, and suggested that it should be taken into consideration in its design. MOTION by Tim McCormack to recommend the following changes: I. Provide 2 additional vents for air circulation on side of building. 2. Provide wood treatment between windows at front and rear of building. 3. Relocate trees to provide shade for picnic tables. 4. Enlarge tree wells around tot lotto accomulodate trees, and add one tree to south side of lot. 5. Recommend use of turf berms near reshoom to control foot traffic. SECOND: Rick Cavecche AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormick, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steve McHaa-is ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review I3ocar~l Meeting Minutes for July 9, 1997 Page 14 (6) DRB No. 3237 City of Orange, Community Services Handy Park - 2143 E.-Oakmont Avenue Meyer & Associates • Improvements to existing building and landscape • R-1 (Residential -Single Family District) The project was presented by Howard Morris of Community Service Department. The DRB stated that the submitted plans lacked detail and information in order for the board to conduct an adequate review of the project. MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue review of this project with the following suggestions: 1. Provide material and color samples of the building. 2. Add bees for shade at the fiont of the snack bar. 3. The large parapet element on the roof needs to be lowered or elimuiated entirely. 4. Plans lacked detail. More information is need for adequate review of the project. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormick, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None AI3SENT'~ None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for July 9, 1997 Page 15 (7) DRB No. 3238 City of Orange, Community Services Improvements to Little League ball field McPherson Athletic Field facility 333 S. Prospect Avenue R-1 (Residential -Single Family District) Community Service Dept. The project was presented by Howard Morris of Community Service Department The DRB stated that the submitted plans lacked detail and information in order for the board to conduct an adequate review of the project. MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue review of this project with the following suggestions: 1. Plans lacked detail. More information is need for adequate review of the project. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Riclc Cavecche, Tim McCormick, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED