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1997-04-09 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange Design Review Board MINUTES for Wednesday, April 9, 1997 Board Members Present: Board Members Absent Staff in Attendance Richard Cavecche Tim McCormack Robert Reilly Steven McHarris Steven Prothero (Chair) Chuck Lau, Associate Planner Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M. The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjourned at approximately 8:30 P.M. City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 2 Regular Session - S: 00 P.M. Richard Cavecche opened the meeting and asked whether board members had any comments or revisions to the meeting minutes for March 19, 1997. A motion was made by Robert Reilly to approve the minutes with the following revisions: DRB No. 3176 (Old Towne Brewing Co.~paae 4, add condition #8 to read as follows: 8. Final landscape plans shall be provided and approved by the Community Services Department staff, with all of the above corrections. (Items 1 through 7). DRB No. 3201 (Chili's Restaurant~pa~e 7, condition #l. second sentence, change the word integration to integrated and add condition #5 page 8 to read as follows: I. Prior to issuance of building permits, final landscape plans shall be submitted to the DRB for approval The final plan shall be integrated with the rest of the center, specifically addressing the rear (north) elevation of the building. Also suggest replacing the birch tree (Betula Pendula) to another type of deciduous tree. 5. Wall signs are approved as submitted, subject to compliance with the City's current Sign Ordinance. SECOND: Timothy McCormack AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack and Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steven McHarris and, Steven Prothero ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 3 (1) DRB No. 3106 Casa Teresa, Inc. 213 North Olive Street Cathcart/Begin Associates • Final landscape review for a new boarding facility in Old Towne • C-2 (General Business) District (This item was approved on the Consent Calendar.) MOTION by Richard Cavecche to approve the final landscape plans subject to the following conditions: 1. Move the third tree along the north property line further back where there is more space. SECOND: Timothy McCormack AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack and Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steven McHarris and Steven Prothero ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 4 (2) DRB No. 3134 Century Theatres Final landscape review for the Century NWC Katella Ave./Main St. Entertainment Center Nowell & Associates C-R (Commercial Recreational) District The revised landscape plans were presented by Steven Copley, Landscape Architect. At the previous meeting, Mr. McCornack expressed concerns with the use of Gleditsia in the parking lot because it was felt that a larger canopy tree is needed. After further study of this issue, and taking into consideration the security lighting requirements of the Police Department, it was felt that the recommended changes would not be appropriate. Mr. Copley recommended the use of Robinia `Purple Robe', which is a slightly larger shade tree, but will have more root problems than the Gleditsia. As for the use of Camphor trees in the end islands of the parking lot, it has been used successfully in other projects, and its root problems are not much different than many other types of trees that are being used in the industry. Linear root barriers would be installed in the parking aisles as well as the planter islands to minimize potential root problems. Eucalyptus Microtheca are suggested to be used in the drive aisles, and for the entry drive, Italian Cypress would be used to visually separate the large parking field from the building complex pad and provide a focal point towards the theater. As for the south and west property boundaries, Pyrostegia Venusta `Flame Vine' would be used along the fencing. Also provided for the DRB's review is a written description list of the site furniture items such as benches, tables, light fixtures, etc. to be used within the interior of the complex. Mr. McCormack commented that with the many variety of planting material that are being used, they are not being tied-in, unified or linked together very well. This seems to create some confusion. The selection and arrangement of trees are making such a strong statement that it is distracting and not supporting the architecture of the building complex which is supposed to be the main focal point. Perhaps the continued use of matching Palm trees along the main drive aisle progressing to the front of the theater maybe more appropriate. Questions were also raised as to whether or not the number of trees provided meets the minimum requirement of one tree per 8 parking stalls spaced 36 ft. apart maximum and if Iucalyptus Microtheoa would be available for the required matching amount for this project. City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 5 MOTION by Richard Cavecche to continue this item with the following conditions: 1. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final site and landscape plans to DRB for approval. Revised }Mans must fully address all issues of concern expressed at this and previous meetings. (Applicant has the option of submitting another set of revised plans, or submit the actual construction document plans). 2. Submit complete actual color and material samples of all site furniture, including concrete paving colors, tree crates, fixtures, etc. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCorn7ack and Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steven McHarris and Steven Prothero ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 6 (3) DRB No. 3181 Ayres Group 3737 W. Chapman Avenue Promotional Sians (This item was approved on the Consent Calendar.) Wall signs for a newly remodeled hotel Review of wall signs mounted on raceway C-1 (Limited Business) District MOTION by Richard Cavecche to approve this item as submitted SECOND: Timothy McCormack AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack and Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steven McHarris and Steven Prothero ABSTAINED: None City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 7 (4) DRB No.3 188 Woodside Plaza 3110-3134 E. Chapman Ave. William C. Sharon -Architect • Remodel of an existing retail center • C-1 (Limited Business) District David Jackson, CBI Construction Services and Will Gencarella, Owner of the property. They appreciate some of the suggested design changes recommended by the DRB from the previous meetings. However, they had originally budgeted only $20, 000 for some minor revisions to a rather out-dated 70's look of the building. The changes recommended by the DRB was estimated by a construction company to cost over $200,000. This would cause hardship on the owner, as the money being spend cannot be justified for an older shopping center that has to compete with other more modernized centers in the area. Perhaps by retaining the existing wood framed window storefronts, the cost could be reduced by approximately $50, 000. There could be some additional savings if the tower elements could be constructed as a false front with high parapet wall, rather than framed-in as a 3-dimensional tower element with a hip roof. The DRB stated that it would be up to the owner to retain the wood storefront window frames, however, the use of a high parapet wall to create a false front would not be acceptable. The center need some relieve with depth to provide shade and shadow, and to give the building some movement. There are simple things that could be done to achieve this without costing too much money. More design consideration is needed. MOTION by Richard Cavecche to continue review of this project to the next meeting. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack and Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steven McHarris and Steven Prothero ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 8 (5) DRB No. 3202 The Bible House 1634 E. Katella Ave. Signage Solutions • Wall signs for a new retail tenant within an existing shopping center • C-TR (Commercial, Tustin Redevelopment) District The project was presented by Robert McDonald -Signage Solutions, and Kelly Woods -store owner. The business is moving from an existing location at Collins Avenue to this new store location. The `Hallmark' sign is being proposed in addition to `The Bible House' because it is a trademark logo that is required at all the stores that carry their products. MOTION by Robert Reilly to approve the new wall sign plans as submitted. SECOND: Timothy McCormack AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack and Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steven McHarris and Steven Prothero ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 9 New Proposals - (6) DRB No. 3207 Lucky Supermarket Wall signs for an existing supermarket NWC Tustin/Collins C-1 (Limited Business) District Heath & Comoanv The project was presented by Tim Pitts -Heath & Company. The proposal is to replace the existing `Lucky' wall sign with a slightly larger version, and to install additional wall signs `SEA FOOD', `DELI BAKERY', and `LIQUOR'. The existing "Bank of America" wall sign to remain unchanged. The new signage is to convey to people that there are these additional services available at the Luclcy Supermarket. The board expressed concerns with the number of wall signs being proposed for this project. The DRB has consistently in the recent past, discouraged accessory signs on similar projects such as the new Walmart at the Mall of Orange. The exception would be signs that identifies a separate tenant use or business entity such as `Bank of America' at the Lucky store, and as noted earlier the `McDonalds' and Better Homes & Garden `Garden Center' at the Walmart store. MOTION by Richard Cavecche to approve only the enlarged `Lucky' sign as submitted, and to deny the `SEA FOOD', 'DELI BAKERY', and `LIQUOR' signs. SECOND: Timothy McCormack AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack and Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steven McHarris and Steven Prothero ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED Cite of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 10 (7) DRB No. 3208 Yorba Medical Group • 1201 W. La Veta Avenue Superior Electrical Advertising • New Monument sign for an existing medical office facility OP (Office Professional) District (This item was approved on the Consent Calendar.) MOTION by Richard Cavecche to approve plans for a new monument sign as submitted. SECOND: Timothy McCormack AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack and Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steven McHarris and Steven Prothero ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 11 (8) DRB No. 3209 Polygon Communities, Inc. • Hewes St. and Rancho Santiago Blvd. • MDS Consulting 100 unit single family residential tract R-1 (Single Family Residential) District The project was presented by Steve Shepard -Polygon Communities, Inc., and Hank Jimenez, MDS Consulting. Also in attendance at the meeting was Shirley Grindle, community member. This is a 30+ acres single family residential project that is being developed with 2 Tract Maps (Tract 15371 & 15443). There are 2 entries into this development, each provided with enhanced landscape treatment and interlocking brick paving. Perimeter walls are made of slumpblocks with pilasters and brick caps. Vine pockets are provide at the walls along Santiago and Hewes. Several building elevation plans are provided with variations on each theme. The architecture is eclectic in design. The board stated that the overall project is well designed to fit in with the surrounding neighborhood. MOTION by Richard Cavecche to approve the plans as follows: 1. Building elevations are approved as submitted 2. Final landscape plans and irrigation plans to be reviewed by staff. 3. The project is approved with the enhanced interlocking brick pavement at the 2 entrances. 4. The concrete curbing defining the center islands shall match the accent concrete used for the 2 entries. 5. Recommend that the street trees shown within the internal street parkway area be maintained by the Homeowner's Association. SECOND: Timothy McCormack AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack and Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steven McHarris and Steven Prothero ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 12 9) DRB No. 3210 Mr. & Mrs. Richard Sciuto Lot 6; Tract #13913 (Prospect Hill) The Woods Grouo Architect • New single family home • R-1 (Single Family Residential) District The project was presented by Hal Woods -Architect, and Richard Sciuto -property owner. Mr. Bob Bennyhoff, representing Orange Park Acres, was also in attendance to comment on the project. The proposal is to construct a custom designed, 2-story single family residence of approximately 8,200 sq.ft. in size (including garage) on a hill side view lot. This project is being brought to the DRB as a condition of approval to Tract 13913. This is to assure that the site layout and building design are compatible with the surrounding area, and to minimize any potential visual and lighting impacts to adjoining properties. The board was concern with the visual impacts of the large 2-story structure, especially to the adjacent properties located down slope to the east. However, given the large setback at the rear property line, and that there are no bright or intensive lighting fixtures that creates glare, the project is well design to be compatible with the surrounding neighborhood. Tim McCormack also recommended adding several trees planted randomly adjacent to the building to help soften the building, while still maintaining its view. MOTION by Robert Reilly to approve the plans as submitted. SECOND: Timothy McCormack AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack and Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steven McHarris and, Steven Prothero ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 13 (10) DRB No. 3211 Boston Market New restaurant building at the Mall of Mall of Orange building pad near the Orange complex. north access drive from Tustin Street. C-TR (Commercial, Tustin Street Reyes Group Redevelopment) District Lorenzo Reyes -The Reyes Group, and Steve Jordan, Tarlos & Associates, presented the project to the DRB. This is a 5,320 sq.ft. new building pad in front of the new Walmart store within the Mall of Orange Shopping Center complex. Boston market would occupy 3,200 sq.ft. and the remaining 2,120 sq.ft. would be occupied by another restaurant tenant. The overall building height has been reduced from its original design, especially the tower elements, mainly due to Wahnart's concern with visibility of their new store. (This item has been scheduled for April 21, l 997 Planning Commission review as Major Site Plan Review #36-97). The DRB expressed concern that the tower elements do not add enough character to the building. The board suggested raising up the height of towers and having a steeper roof pitch. As for the landscape plan, the board suggested the addition and changes to planting material. MOTION by Timothy McCormack to recommend approve of the project to the Planning Commission, subject to the following conditions: 1. Raise the overall height of tower element to approximately 28 ft. with a steeper roof pitch. 2. Provide tall vertical tree in planter area along the north and south building elevations. (Suggestion: Chinese Tallow tree, Wedding tree, Silver Dollar Gum Eucalyptus, Lemon- Scented Gum Eucalyptus, etc.) 3. Provide a `signature' tree at the northeast corner planter area. Suggest an open/airy flowering type tree such as Chinese Flame t~~ee (Koelreuteria Bipinnata). 4. Provide foundation planting along edge of building in thin planting area in a more linear/formal arrangement rather than in small informal groupings. (Suggest Ligustrum, Buxus, Pittosporum Wheeler's Dwarf, Lily of the Nile, etc.) 5. Provide taller shrubs at planting fingers (. Trees in the parking lot shall match existing (Ehn tree). 7. Provide one gallon vines (Boston Ivy) at 8 ft. on center at trash enclosure. 8. Submit signage plans to DRB. (No verbiage allowed on the awnings) 9. Submit final building elevations and landscape plans to DRB for approval. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack and Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steven McHarris and, Steven Prothero ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for April 9, 1997 Page 14 (11) DRB No. 3213 City of Orange -Community Services • Department • Eichenberger & Associates Landscape review for public parking lot C-1 (Limited Business) District The project was presented by Bernie Eichenberger, Landscape Architect. This is an existing City owned lot with existing planter areas and no landscaping. The board expressed concern with the arrangement of trees along the front planter area being in conflict with the existing street trees. MOTION by Timothy McCormack to recommend to the Community Services Department the following changes: 1. Adjust spacing of trees along the front planter area to form more of a regular triangulation pattern to better coordinate with the existing street trees in the parkway area and to give the tree more room to grow. 2. Day lily to be spaced at 24" on center. 3. Provide ground cover/mulch in planter areas. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack and Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steven McHarris and, Steven Prothero ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED