1997-01-22 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, January 22, 1997
Board Members Present:
Richard Cavecche*
Tim McCormack
Steven McHarris**
Steven Prothero (Chair)
Robert Reilly
* (Arrived at approx. 5:15 p.m.)
** (Arrived at approx. 5:20 p.m.)
Board Members Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 7:30 P.M.
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Regular Session - S: 00 P.M.
Steven Prothero opened the meeting and asked whether board members had any comments or revisions
to the meeting minutes for January 8, 1997.
A motion was made by Steven Prothero to approve the minutes with the following revision:
DRB No. 3193 (Orange Squarel page 6, revise condition #7 to read as follows:
7. Submit landscape plans if any existing landscaping is to be removed or replaced, prior to
initiation of any work on landscaping.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack
AYES: Timothy McCormack, Steven Prothero and Robert ReiIly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Richard Cavecche and Steven McHarris
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(1) DRB No. 2910
Robert Breskin
200 E. Chapman Ave.
Ronald Aaron -Architect
Applicant and/or representative not present.
• Revision of previously approved building
elevations for an existing commercial
building
• C-2 (Limited Business) District -Old Towne
MOTION by Steven Prothero to continue review of the application.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack
AYES: Timothy McCormack, Steven Prothero, and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Richard Cavecche and Steven McHarris
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(2) DRB No. 3150
WalMart
Broadway Store Site @ Mall of Orange
Hall & Foreman, Inc.
• New retail building to replace the former
Broadway store at the Mall of Orange
• Review of parking lot landscape plans
• C-TR(Commercial, Tustin Redevelopment
Project Area) District
Steve Reiner, P.E. -Hall & Foreman, h1c. presented the project. The plans are being send out for bids in
about a week. The plans now show removal of the existing theaters and the tire shop building.
The board raised concerns as followed:
• The revised plans appears to be the same as the plans submitted for the Jm1e 5, 1996 DRB meeting.
• City standards regLiire minimum one tree per 8 parking stalls, and spaced maximum 36 ft. on center.
• Parking lot lighting should be coordinated with the placement of trees and be shovv~l on the same
plan as the landscaping plan.
• The Star Jasmine in the planter area in front of the store entry are typically not very durable as there
would be high pedestrian traffic. Some type of hedge maybe better.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve submitted plans subject to the following conditions:
1. Provide one tree per 8 parking stalls, spaced maximum 36 ft. on center, to comply with City
standards. (This includes the parking lot area where the theater is currently located.)
2. Coordinate and show parking lot lighting on the same plan as the landscape plans.
3. The Star Jasmine in the planter area in front of the store entry shall be spaced minimum I2" on
center.
4. Specify the exact type of Date Palms used.
5. Submit detailed signage plans (building wall signs). This may be submitted as a separate item.
6. Prior to issuance of building permits, final plans shall be reviewed and approve by the DRB. The
final plans may be reviewed in construction document fol-m during Building Department "Plan
Check" process.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack
AYES: Timothy McCorn~ack, Steven Prothero and Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Richard Cavecche and Steven McHarris
MOTION CARRIED
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(3) DRB No. 3176
Old Towne Brewing Co. Conversion of the historic Santa Fe
186 Atchison St. Railroad Depot to a restaurant and
Cecil Carney, Architect microbrewery
• Review of site and building plans
• SP (Santa Fe Depot Specific Plan) zone
Cecil Carney, Project Architect, presented the revised plans. The mansard roof has been changed to a
parapet roof with a crown molding to match the existing roof. Some of the multiple pane windows and
doors have been changed to a more simplified type. The outdoor trellis is a 3 layer stacked designed as
suggested by the DRB.
Questions were raised by the board as to what is the extend of demolition to the existing building. Staff
replied that the DRB is to consider only the aesthetics of the proposed project, and that the issue of
demolition should not have any bearing on their decisions. Other concerns were raised by the DRB as
followed:
The revised windows does not benefit the project. It does not match the existing ones.
The design of the crown molding is inconsistent with the period architecture.
The profile of the electrical equipment room should be more pronounced. This area needs
articulation to give it a heavier, more substantial appearance.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the project, subject to the following conditions:
1. New windows shall match the existing ones with same profile and true multiple panes. Windows
shall be made of wood with full sash.
2. Design of the parapet roof crown molding shall match the profile of the original building.
3. The electrical equipment room shall be redesigned to add more mass to give it a more substantial
appearance.
4. Prior to issuance of building permits, staff shall plan check construction documents and verify that
all the above conditions are complied with.
5. Submit final landscape plans to DRB.
6. Submit final signage plans to DRB.
SECOND: Richard Cavecche
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(4) DRB No. 3190
Luis E. Marquez • Remodel and addition onto an existing
232 N. Harwood residence to include demolition of a portion
Mark Designs of the residence, and to replace the
existing garage with a new 2-car garage.
• R-2-6 (Residential Duplex) District -Old
Towne
The applicant , Mr. Luis Marquez presented the revised plans, which incorporated many of the changes
that were required by the DRB.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to approve the project, subject to the following conditions:
1. Final design of the front porch shall be reviewed and approved by the City's Senior Historic
Preservation staff, Mr. Daniel Ryan.
2. Provide 1"x4" wood trim around all doors and windows.
3. The plysawn material used for the garage door shall have a smooth finish. Aside man door is
recommended. If changes are made to enlarge the garage, plans must be submitted to DRB.
4. Exterior siding shall be 5" clapboard siding. Composite or vinyl siding materials are not acceptable.
5. Color and roof material are approved as submitted.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(5) DRB No. 3191
Building Trade Federal Credit Union
1918 W. Chapman Ave.
Coast Sign (Bill Clarke)
• Replacement signage for an existing office
building
• C-2 (General Business) District
Applicant and/or representative not present.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to continue review of the application.
SECOND: Timothy McCormack
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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New Proposals -
(6) DRB No. 3194
Sunstream Communities (Blockbuster Replacement signage for a new tenant in
Video) an existing shopping center
130-146 Main Street C-3 (General Commercial) District
San Pedro Sign Company
Mark Frank, San Pedro Sign Company presented the project.
The board expressed concerns with the removal of the awning and covering of the recessed area on the
tower. There also appears to be too many signs on the building.
MOTION by Richard Cavecche to approve the signage plans, subject to the following conditions:
1. Staff to verify if there are any code deficiencies in regard to the number of signs and square footage
allowed. If it does not meet code, then a variance must be obtained.
2. The smaller (28.1 sq.ft.) logo shall be used for the tower. The sign shall be inset into the recessed
area.
3. The logo shall have an opaque background.
4. The small logo is approved to be used with the individual channel letters.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris and Robert Reilly
NOES: Steven Prothero
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(7) DRB No. 3195
Earl's Restaurant Proposed installation of exterior neon
807 N. Tustin Street lighting for an existing restaurant
Action Signs (Jeff Fullerton) C-1 (Limited Business) District
Jeff Fullerton, Action Signs, present the project. The proposal is to install 3 strip of neon lighting along
the eaves of the building.
The board stated that the use of neon in this manner is inappropriate for this building. The DRB would
consider other alternative methods of brightening the building. The applicant has the option of
submitting a revised proposal for the next meeting.
MOTION by Steven Prothero to continue review of the application.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Richard Cavecche, Timothy McCormack, Steven McHarris, Steven Prothero and
Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None