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1998-12-02 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange Design Review Board MINUTES for Wednesday, December 2, 1998 Board Members Present: Board Member Absent Staff in Attendance Rick Cavecche Tim McCormack Robert Reilly Steve Prothero Susan Secoy Chuck Lau, Associate Planner Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M. The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m.. The meeting adjourned at approximately 7:30 p. m. Regular Session - 5: 30 P.M. Rick Cavecche opened the meeting. A motion was made by Rick Cavecche to defer the review and approval of the November 4, 1998 and November 18, 1998 minutes to the December 16, 1998 meeting. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for December 2, 1998 Page 2 11 DRB No. 3370 The Courtyard 152 & 154 N. Glassell Street Leason F. Pomeroy -Architect New 2-story in-fill retail space addition C-1 (Limited Business District), Old Towne Recommendation to Planning Commission The project was presented by the owner and architect, Mr. Leason Pomeroy. The project has been revised from the previous meeting. The new plans showed an open passage way through to the central courtyard which preserves and exposed the south elevation of the existing S.A.V.I. building (154 N. Glassell St.). The new plans also showed that the existing front (east) elevation of the S.A.V.I. building would be preserved, and that the previous proposal to add new second story window openings have been eliminated per the DRB's suggestion. The existing non- contributing structure (152 N. Glassell St.) would be demolished, and is to be replaced with a narrow 2-story building constructed along the south property line with a pedestrian bridge over the passage way that connects to the S.A.V.I. building. The existing one story garage (152 N. Olive St.) would also be demolished per the City's historical building inventory survey, as the structure is severely deteriorated beyond repair. The garage would be replaced with new 2-story building. The DRB felt that the overall building layout was appropriate for the site, and was glad to see that the historic facade of the S.A.V.I. building is being preserved instead of significantly altering it with second story window openings. As for demolition of the 2 structures, one is a non-contributing structure, and the other is not feasible for restoration. Tim McCormack expressed concerns with the use of plaster for the upper portion of the addition to the rear of the S.A.V.I. building. This material does not fit well with the brick used for the lower portion of the building. Why not continue with the use of brick for the upper portion? Also of concern is the pedestrian bridge that connects the 2 buildings which appears rather bulky. Instead of being enclosed, perhaps this can be an open bridge with some ornate iron work. The DRB made the following findings: 1. The project is consistent in size, scale and context with existing surrounding developments. 2. The project retains the historic relationship between buildings and open space. 3. The building design and material is compatible with the character of the existing structure and surrounding area. 4. The project is designed in such a manner that it would not significant change or damage the character defining features of the historic building and its features. 5. The project will not erode or adversely affect any historic resource or the district. 6. The proposed demolition of the existing single story commercial building (152 N. Glassell Street) is appropriate, because it is designated as anon-contributing structure constructed in the 1950's. 7. The proposed demolition of the existing single story garage (152 N. Olive Street) is appropriate, because it is structurally deteriorated beyond repair, as identified under the City's historical building inventory survey. City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for December 2, 1998 Page 3 (DRB No. 3370 Continued) MOTION by Rick Cavecche to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission subject to the following conditions: 1. The new pedestrian bridge that connects between the two buildings needs to be modified to have more of an open design with less bulk and mass. Suggest the use of ornate iron work, and possibly incorporating a gate underneath to restrict access during close of business. 2. The concrete base at the rear of the building needs to be modified to have more of a historic character and feel. Suggest the use of stone or some type of modular material that appears more historic. 3. Submit final site, building, landscape, hardscape, lighting, and civil engineering plans to DRB for approval. 4. Applicant to work with City staff to provide a comprehensive parking plan that includes the adjacent parcels, in order to achieve a more efficient parking lot layout. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for December 2, 1998 Page 4 DRB No. 3377 Lutheran High School 2222 N. Santiago Boulevard Architects Orange • Expansion of an existing school facility • R-1-8 (Single Family Residential District) • Recommendation to Planning Commission (Applicant not present) MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue the project. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for December 2, 1998 Page 5 (3) DRB No. 3383 Dan Arguello 604 E. Almond Avenue Brian Davis (Applicant not present) • Single family residential addition in Old Towne • R2-6 (Duplex Residential District) MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue the project. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for December 2, 1998 Page 6 (4) DRB No. 3385 Licata's Nutrition Center 162 N. Glassefl Street Mike Boscia Storefront modification for an existing retail business in Old Towne C-1 (Limited Business District) The project was presented by Mike Boscia -Carousel Contracting. The proposal is to subdivide an existing retail space into two smaller tenant space. The project includes the construction of a new demising wall, and alteration of the existing storefront to accommodate two new entrances. The exterior finish materials would match the existing, including the flag stone, window glazing and window framing (an actual sample of the flagstone was presented to the board). The DRB agreed with what is being proposed by the applicant. However, there are concerns that the proposal is inconsistent with the 01d Towne Design Standards (page 15), which states "Narrow framed doors or anodized aluminum storefronts shall not be permitted". The DRB offered the applicant the opportunity to redesign the project and return to board for review. MOTION by Rick Cavecche to deny the project, without prejudice, based on the finding that the proposed use of aluminum store front is inconsistent with the Old Towne Design Standards. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack NOES: Robert Reilly ABSENT: Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for December 2, 1998 Page 7 (5) DRB No. 3387 Tom Ambuehl • Replacement residential detached garage 172 N. Shaffer Street in Old Towne Hustead Construction R2-6 (Duplex Residential District) The proposal is to demolish an existing detached garage and replace it with a new one. The project proposes the use of wood windows and doors, including wood lap siding with mitered corners. The roofing material, trims and colors to match the existing residence. The project has been scheduled for Planning Commission hearing on December 21, 1998. Tim McCormack raised concerns with the odd appearance of the small notch cut-out at the corner of the garage. Also of concern is the use of a hip roof rather than a gable roof to match the existing front residence. The existing residence is a single story bungalow that has afront- facing gable roof with triangular bracket supports. Tim stated that he would not support the project as submitted. The applicant referred to a photograph of the existing garage which shows a side facing gable roof, and stated that a new hip roof was chosen because the current zoning ordinance does not allow roofs over 10 ft. in height within 5 ft. and 10 ft. of the side and rear property lines, respectively. Additionally, the zoning ordinance requires a minimum 6 ft. distance between structures that resulted with the corner cut-out of the new garage. The minimum size of a 2-car garage is 20 ft. x 20 ft. inside (clear) dimension. Robert Reilly stated that he would not have any problems recommending approval of this project due to the circumstance with the current code requirements. Also, the new garage is setback well over 100 ft. from the street, and that no one will see the corner of the garage other than the occupants of the property. MOTION by Robert Reilly to approve the project as submitted. SECOND: None ABSENT: Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: Rick Cavecche MOTION FAILED (for lack of a second) NO OTHER MOTIONS WERE BROUGHT FORWARD City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for December 2, 1998 Page 8 (6) DRB No. 3388 Santa Monica Seafood Company Expansion of an existing seafood 1700 N. Main Street distribution and retail facility Architectural Design Studio, Inc. M-2 (Industrial District) The project was presented by Anthony Eckelberry, Project Architect. The proposal is to construct two additions to an existing building; a new outdoor dining patio; and a realignment of ingress/egress drives. The additions include a new restroom (170 sq.ft.) and the expansion of the site's retail area (90 sq.ft.). MOTION by Rick Cavecche to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission, subject to the following conditions: 1. The concrete columns supporting the new trellis structure shall be a minimum of 12 inches in diameter. 2. The planter area adjacent to the south side of the new trellis structure shall be a minimum of 4 ft. in width. 3. Provide shrubbery at new planter. 4. Provide landscaping and irrigation at removed driveway area to match existing. 5. Round front corner at new restroom addition. 6. Submit signag e plans to DRB. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for December 2, 1998 Page 9 (7) DRB No. 3389 Chevron Signage for an existing full service car 1405 W. Chapman Avenue wash facility Greg Hohn C-2 (General Business District) The project was presented by Greg Hohn with Chevron. The proposal is to install new Signage for an existing carwash facility that was recently changed from Union 76 to Chevron. The DRB raised concerns as follows: • If the existing fuel pump canopy structure is being replaced with a new one, plans of the new canopy needs to be included with the submittal. • The proposed miscellaneous signs, specifically the Point Of Purchase (P.O.S.) signs, appear to exceed the maximum square footage allowed by code. • More information is needed on all other existing Signage that are remaining on site. (This includes but not limited to directional signs, menu board/pricing signs, and all other miscellaneous signs). MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue the project. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for December 2, 1998 Page 10 (8) DRB No. 3390 America On Track • 1431 N. Main Street Jeff Coffman Architects Signage for a new indoor recreation facility M-2 (Industrial District) The project was presented by Ken Parsons with Coffman Architects. The proposal is to install new wall signs for a new recreation facility (indoor racetrack) located in an industrial district. In addition to the primary wall sign over the main entrance along the west building elevation, the owner is requesting two (2) additional wall signs; a small case letter "d" with the wording "dromo" installed on the far left side of the south elevation, and a small case letter "d" installed on the far right side of the west elevation. The two additional "d" letters would be approximately one-half the size of the "d"letter over the main entrance. MOTION by Robert Reilly to approve the project subject to the following conditions: 1. Two additional wall signs are also approved; a small case letter "d" with the wording "dromo" installed on the far left side of the south elevation, and a small case letter "d" installed on the far right side of the west elevation. 2. The signs are illuminated having no exposed raceways and/or electrical conduits. 3. Any modifications to existing landscaping shall be submitted to the DRB for approval. SECOND: Rick Cavecche AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for December 2, 1998 Page 11 (9) DRB No. 3391 Ford of Orange SEC Main Street & Katella Avenue AAA Signs • Signage for a new automotive sales and service dealership • C-R (Commercial -Recreation District) (Approved on the consent calendar) MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project, subject to the following conditions: 1. Approval is granted for the following wall signs only: • 4'-0" x 10'-3 1/8" illuminated "~d~D" oval shaped logo • 1'-6" x 10'-4 1/2" illuminated "FORD OF ORANGE" individual channel letters • 2'-2" x 35'-10 3/4" illuminated "SERVICE" individual channel letters 2. Review of the new freestanding sign and on-site directional signs are deferred pending approval of a Variance application by the City's Zoning Administrator for increase in square footage, and in overall sign height. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED