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1998-11-18 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange Design Review Board MINUTES for Wednesday, November 18, 1998 Board Members Present: Rick Cavecche Tim McCormack* Steve Prothero Susan Secoy (*Arrived at approximately 5:40 p.m.) Board Member Absent: Robert Reilly Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner John Godlewski, Senior Project Planner Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M. The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m.. The meeting adjourned at approximately 8:50 p. m. Regular Session - S: 30 P.M. Review and approval of the November 4, 1998 minutes were deferred to the December 2, 1998 meeting, as it was not yet available. City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for November 18, 1998 Page 2 (1) DRB No. 3358 Investor Realty Company NWC Main Street & La Veta Reeves Associates, Inc. -Architects New ±40,000 sq. ft. retail center with drive-thru pharmacy and 2 drive-thru restaurants C-2 (General Business District) The project was presented by David Valentine with Investor Realty Company, Larry Reeves -Project Architect. The new plan shows pedestrian travel path, and also identifies the location of outdoor dining areas. The landscape plan shows the location of street trees and how it coordinates with the new landscaping for the center. Anew meandering walk path has been added at the rear of the shopping center along Alpine Street. Alighting plan with photometric and brochures are included to show the type and location of the fixtures and how it fits with the landscaping. Also included are samples of the type of signage that would be used for this center. A separate sign program will be submitted at a later date. The building elevations have been revised so that the various architectural elements are in better proportions per the DRB's suggestion. A section detail drawing is provided to show the exact depth and profile of the architectural elements. A sight distance study is provided to show that the roof parapet height is sufficient to properly screen the mechanical equipment. Steve Capilouto -Architect, presented the project for Carl's Jr. Restaurant. Per the DRB's request, the tower element has been lowered and the Happy Star logo has been raised to above the roof line. Also provided are the cornice detail, color palette, and finish material to match the rest of the center. MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the project with the following conditions: 1. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final landscape plans to DRB for approval. (Recommend upgrading the size and quantity of the Magnolias, as these are slow growing trees) 2. Provide two (2) additional palm trees at the west planter area adjacent to the drive-thru lane for the Taco Bell restaurant. 3. Indicate size and specie of the Palm trees. 4. Further study the possibility of up-lighting the Palm trees at the southeast corner of the site. 5. Provide several layers of ascending vertical profile planting material along the rear (west) of the property facing Alpine Road. 6. Submit final lighting plans to DRB for approval. Suggest relocating the lighting fixtures in front of Retail Building "A" to opposite the planter islands. Select lighting fixtures that does not conflict with the location of trees. 7. Enhance the paving north of the Rite Aid building. Suggest use of a large square block as a transition element, in lieu of the diagonal paving pattern. 8. Provide screen wall at entrance to the service and trash enclosure area. 9. Fire sprinkler risers to be located within the building. 10. Roof parapet to be of sufficient height to screen mechanical equipment. 11. Submit sign program to DRB. SECOND: Rick Cavecche AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Reilly ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for November 18, 1998 Page 3 (2) DRB No. 3370 The Courtyard 152 & 154 N. Glassell Street Leason F. Pomeroy -Architect New 2-story in-fill retail space addition C-1 (Limited Business District), Old Towne Recommendation to Planning Commission The project was presented by the owners Mr. Leason Pomeroy and Mr. Al Ricci. The proposal is to demolish a 1,600 sq.ft., 1950's building located at 152 N. Glassell Street (S.A.V.I. building), and a 1,770 sq.ft., 1920's garage located at 152 N. Olive Street. Also proposed is the construction of a new, one and two story in-fill addition, including a new passageway adjacent to the existing historic facade located at 154 N. Glassell Street. This development proposes to increase office and retail area by approximately 5,000 sq.ft. and will provide onsite parking for 16 cars. The project's expected built-out is to be approximately 10,500 sq.ft. The project is governed by several documents; the Old Towne Design Standards, the Downtown Vision Plan, the Southwest Redevelopment Project Area Standards, and the Secretary of Interior Standards. The goal is to enhance and expose the courtyard to public usage, and to set high standards for future improvement of other projects in the downtown area. The intent is to restore and maintain existing details, and to design the new construction to compliment and enhance the existing historic structure. Various plans and alternative schemes were explored to achieve the most effective use of the site. The DRB commended the applicant in their efforts to maintain and restore the desirable and unique features of historic structures, and in the design of new in-fill construction with sensitivity and careful attention to compatibility with existing neighborhoods. This type of project will contribute significantly to the revitalization of the overall downtown area. Concerns were expressed, however, regarding the opening of new windows on the upper level of the existing S.A.V.I. building. The DRB felt that the proposed modifications to the historic facade would diminish the historic integrity of the contributing structure. The DRB acknowledge the fact that although the existing single story garage is listed as a contributing structure, it is structurally deteriorated beyond repair, as identified under the City's historical building inventory survey. The DRB also prefers to see the use of more traditional design elements and materials, as oppose to creating contrast with the introduction of new contemporary styles and materials. MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue the project for further study and development of revised plans to address the board's comments and concerns. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Reilly ABSTAINED: Susan Secoy MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for November 18, 1998 Page 4 (3) DRB No. 3371 American Glass Industrial 1105 N. Glassell Street Atef Kamel Revised new freestanding sign for an existing retail business C-1 (Limited Business) District The project was presented by the owner Mr. Atef Kamel. This is a modification of a freestanding sign that was approved on October 7, 1998. The new proposed sign is larger in size and higher overall. Tim McCormack again stated that the sign needs more articulation because it still appears like a temporary sign, and therefore he could not support the project. MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the project with the following conditions: 1. The sign text and graphic are approved as submitted. Text and street numbers are red, border striping is blue, and both of which may be of a reflective material. The sign background is white, and shall benon-reflective. 2. Provide edge band to encase the sign perimeter on all sides, including top and bottom. 3. Sign posts may be set-in as shown, or set at the edge as an option. However, posts should not extend above the top of the sign. (4x6 post to be painted white) 4. Overall sign height not to exceed 8 ft. maximum. 5. Overall sign width not to exceed 7 ft. maximum. 6. Sign is non-illuminated. SECOND: Susan Secoy AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: Tim McCormack ABSENT: Robert Reilly ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for November 18, 1998 Page 5 4) DRB No. 3376 Chapman Storage NEC Chapman Ave. & Wayfield Street Valli Architectural Group New ±123,000 sq.ft. self-storage facility C-2 (General Business District) Recommendation to Planning Commission (Applicant not present) MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue the project. SECOND: Steve Prothero AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for November 18, 1998 Page 6 5) DRB No. 3377 Lutheran High School 2222 N. Santiago Boulevard Architects Orange / Darrel Hebenstriet Expansion of an existing school facility R-1-8 (Single Family Residential) Recommendation to Planning Commission (Applicant not present) MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue the project. SECOND: Steve Prothero AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for November 18, 1998 Page 7 (6) DRB No. 3381 Selman Chevrolet Expansion of an existing automotive 1800 E. Chapman Avenue dealership Architects Orange C-2 (General Business District) • Recommendation to Planning Commission The project was presented by Hugh Rose with Architects Orange. The proposal is to construct an addition to the sales showroom & office building for parts storage, and to replace the auto body shop office trailer with a permanent structure. The project has been scheduled for the December 7, 1998 Planning Commission public hearing. The DRB suggested that the platform in front of the new body shop office needs better articulation so that it reads more as an architectural element (plinth), similar to the existing used car office building. More refinement is needed. As for the parts storage addition, the exterior finish material should match the existing building. MOTION by Rick Cavecche to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission, subject to the following conditions: 1. Exterior finish materials for the parts storage addition to match the existing building. 2. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final plans for the new replacement body shop office building to the DRB for approval. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Reilly ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for November 18, 1998 Page 8 (7) DRB No. 3382 Mens Wearhouse 745 S. Main Street, #100 Cal-Neon Signs New wall sign for a retail tenant within a shopping center C-2 (General Business District) (Approved on the Consent Calendar) MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted. SECOND: Steve Prothero AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for November 18, 1998 Page 9 (8) DRB No. 3384 Red Lundquist 133 S. Shaffer Street Lenahan Construction Company Replacement exterior siding for an existing residence in Old Towne O-P (Office Professional District) The project was presented by Red Lundquist, owner of the property, and Pat Lenahan of Lenahan Construction Company. The proposal is to remove the redwood lap siding on the existing residence and replace with new masonite siding. This is the same material that was used for a replacement garage that was approved by the Design Review Board several years ago (DRB # 3113 -November 21, 1995). Steve Prothero stated that he was on that Design Review Board at the time, but does not recall approving this material. This is "sheet" siding, and not "lap" siding as originally approved. The DRB minutes for 11/21/95 indicates masonite composite siding with a 4-inch overlap was approved. Rick Cavecche further stated that this material is not acceptable because it does not meet the City's adopted Old Towne Design Standards. The applicant was offered the option of continuing this project for further study of alternative materials, or to accept a final decision and appeal the DRB's decision to the Planning Commission. MOTION by Rick Cavecche to deny the project, finding that the proposed use of masonite sheet siding material does not meet the intent of the City's adopted Old Towne Design Standards, which is to preserve and protect the historic integrity of historically contributing structures within the Old Towne District. MOTION DISCUSSION: Steve Prothero stated as a point of clarification, that in the event that the applicant finds an acceptable substitute material, and which at that point they no longer wish to appeal the DRB's decision, that the substitute material should have the same profile as the existing redwood lap siding that is being replaced. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Reilly ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for November 18, 1998 Page IO (9) DRB No. 3385 Licata's Nutrition Center 162 N. Glassell Street Thomas Lowery Storefront modification for an existing retail business in Old Towne C-1 (Limited Business District) (Applicant not present) MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue the project. SECOND: Steve Prothero AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Reilly ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED