1998-10-21 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, October 21, 1998
Board Members Present: Rick Cavecche (Chair)
Tim McCormack
Steve Prothero
Susan Secoy
Board Member Absent: Robert Reilly
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m.. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 6:45 p. m.
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Regular Session - S: 30 P.M.
A motion was made by Susan Secoy to approve the October 7, 1998 minutes with the following
revisions:
DRB #3371 (American Glass Industrial~papp _e~4, paragraph 1, sentence 1 amended as follows:
The DRB suggest that an edge band be added so that the sign does not s~ea~s appear
unfinished.
DRB #3372 (Orange Law,~pa~e 5, condition 1 amended as follows:
1. Sign to be made of sandblasted wood.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(1) DRB No. 3370
The Courtyard
152 & 154 N. Glassell Street
Leason F. Pomeroy -Architect
(Applicant not present)
New 2-story in-fill retail space addition
C-1 (Limited Business District), Old Towne
Recommendation to Planning Commission
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue this item
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(2) DRB No. 3373
Burger King Restaurant • New restaurant establishment with drive-
4402 E. Chapman Avenue thru window
Anderson Associates C-1 (Limited Business District)
• Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by Richard Anderson, Project Architect. The proposal is to construct
a new Burger King restaurant with adrive-thru window on a site that has been vacant for many
years. The design is a standard corporate prototype plan.
The DRB expressed concerns with the following:
• The standard corporate design appear outdated. Need a more contemporary design approach
to fit into the community which has a Spanish theme. The project should be consistent with
the "El Modena Chapman Avenue Improvement Plan".
• Need detailed plan of front patio and play equipment area. This area appears to be too
crowded with the location of the new freestanding sign. Perhaps the building can be moved
further back to create more landscape area in the front.
• Submit perimeter fencing plan for the play area. Pilasters? Layout of play equipment?
• Submit landscape concept plan.
• Submit sample finish material and color palette.
• Submit lighting plan.
• Submit signage plan.
• All roof mounted mechanical equipment must be properly screened from view.
• Location of trash enclosure does not seem feasible. Needs further study.
• The DRB cannot support the project as presently submitted. Project must be revised to
address the above stated concerns.
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue the project for further review:
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
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(3) DRB No. 3374
Preferred Dental Clinic New freestanding sign for a dental office
2022 W. Chapman Avenue C-2 (General Business District)
Mike's Sign World
The project was presented by Howard Shin with Mike's Sign World. The proposal is to
construct a new freestanding sign to identify a new dental office located in the rear building.
The DRB expressed concerns with the lack of required landscaping in the front yard setback
area. The board recalls that this area was previously landscaped. The DRB did not have
problems with the design of the new sign.
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. Remove existing asphalt paving up to the full width of the building and full depth of the front
setback area, and replace with landscaping. The use of turf grass is acceptable as a minimum
requirement, however, the use of ground cover and/or other low shrub material are strongly
encourage to better enhance this area.
2. Provides a 2 ft. wide mowing strip around the sign to protect it from gardening equipment.
3. Prior to issuance of building permits, landscape and irrigation plans shall be submitted to Department
of Community Services Staff for reviewed and approval.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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4) DRB No. 3375
Peppino's Italian Restaurant . Wall sign addition for an existing restaurant
665 N. Tustin Street C-1 (Limited Business District)
Sign Methods
The project was presented by Frank Stewart with Sign Methods. The proposal is to install an
additional wall sign along the south building wall below the existing "Aaron Brothers" wall sign.
The new sign is to help identify Peppino's Italian Restaurant due to its location at the back
corner of the shopping center.
The DRB had concerns with setting precedent for other tenants within the center who may also
want to have their signs along the south building elevation. The DRB stated that the south
building elevation should be limited only to those tenants that occupy the south building wing
which precludes the majority of the other businesses.
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project with the following conditions:
The wall sign is approved with the understanding that signage along the south building elevation is
limited only to the tenants that occupy the south building wing.
Remove the arrow at the end of the sign can that reads "ITALIAN RESTAURANT" and center it
underneath "P E P P I N G' S".
The use of raceways are permitted because it is consistent with the existing wall signs in the center,
all of which are already mounted on raceways.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Susan Secoy
NOES: Steve Prothero
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED