1998-06-17 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, June 17,1998
Board Members Present
Rick Cavecche (Chair)
Tim McCormack
Steve Prothero*
Robert Reilly
(*Left at approximately 6:30 p.m.)
Board Member Absent:
Staff in Attendance
None
Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 7:05 p.m.
Regular Session - S: 30 P.M.
Rick Cavecche opened the meeting. A motion was made by Robert Reilly to approve the June 3,
1998 minutes as submitted.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(1) DRB No. 3111
Southern California Presbyterian Homes
1515 E. Taft Avenue
Lantz-Boggio Architects
• Final review of a 3-story community care
facility for the elderly
• R-3 (Multiple-Family Residential District)
The project was presented by Ben Beckler with Southern California Presbyterian Homes, and
Dennis Boggio with Lantz-Boggio Architects. A set of construction documents were presented
to the DRB to verify that all previous conditions of approval are satisfied. A copy of the signage
plans were also included
MOTION by Robert Reilly to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
L Provide street trees per City requirements.
2. Provide City required inspection notes on landscape and irrigation plans.
SECOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Steve Prothero
MOTION CARRIED
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(2) DRB No. 3283
Wells Fargo Bank New replacement parking lot directional
101 East Chapman Avenue signs and sign face change of existing
Plasti-Line West freestanding signs
• C-1 (Limited Business) District, Old Towne
(This item was approved on the consent Calendar)
MOTION by Robert Reilly to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(3) DRB No. 3327
K & Y Chapman Partners
1937 W. Chapman Avenue
KOBA Architects
• Renovation of an existing office complex
• C-2 (General Business) District
The project was presented by Charles Lamb, Landscape Architect. The plans have been modified and
additional information have been submitted to address the DRB's concerns from the previous meeting.
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. The lighting fixtures shall only be gravity (ring) mounted on the palm trees. Drilling of the tree
trunk shall be prohibited.
2. Front entry planter is approved with Design WCS wall coping. Optional lighting fixtures mounted
on top of the pilasters are approved with Design PG 1 Pier Caps.
3. Provide concrete enhanced paving at pedestrian crossing between the two buildings.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Rick Cavecche,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Steve Prothero
ABSTAINED: None
Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly
MOTION CARRIED
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(4) DRB No. 3335
Lynda Whitmire
493 S. Orange Street
Russell W. Toepfer, Architect
• New 2-story second unit and demolition of
an existing detached single car garage
• R2-6 (Duplex Residential) District, Old
Towne
• Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by Lynda Whitmire, owner of the property, and Russell Toepfer -Architect.
The proposal is to demolish the existing single car detached garage and replace with a new 2-story
second unit at the rear of the property. Ms. Whitmire has applied for a conditional use permit fora 2-
story structure in Old Towne. An additional variance application may also be required for setback due to
a 10 ft. wide right-of--way dedication requirement along La Veta Avenue. This project has been
scheduled for Planning Commission hearing on July 6, 1998.
The DRB expressed concerns with the City required 10 ft. wide right-of--way dedication along La Veta
Avenue. This adds significant constraint for development on a site that is relatively small to began with.
The board cannot support this project if the street may potentially be widened in the future resulting with
a zero building setback from the sidewalk. The DRB also raised concerns with the second story footprint
being larger than the first story, which results with a cantilever design that creates too much bulk and
mass to the building. A 1 % story design is preferred. Although the general style and architectural
elements are consistent with the Old Towne Design Standards, more movement and articulation are
needed along the north and south elevations, especially on the second story portion of the building.
Other issues of on-site parking, vehicular backing distance, building setbacks, etc., were also discussed.
The DRB encouraged revision of the plans to address the above noted concerns.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to recommend to the Planning Commission as follows:
1. The DRB supports the proposed demolition of the existing garage, as it is anon-contributing
structure. However, the DRB cannot support the project at this time, due to the site being a corner
lot and of relatively small size, the widening of La Veta Avenue would further add to the constraints
of development on this site.
2. The rear building setback to be increase by an additional 2 ft. to provide a 13 ft. setback from the east
property line to allow adequate vehicular backing distance for the garages.
3. Recommend changing from a 2-story to a 1 '/z story design in order to reduce the bulk and mass of
the new structure.
4. The general style and architectural elements are acceptable. However, more movement and
articulation are needed along the north and south elevations, especially on the second story portion of
the building. Also recommend lowering the roof plane and eliminating the cantilever design.
5. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final plans to the DRB for approval.
6. The applicant has the option of taking this project forward to the Planning Commission, or submit
revised plans back to the DRB for a more favorable recommendation.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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~5) DRB No. 3337
Meredith Martini New accessory second unit housing
638 W. Walnut Avenue R1-6 (Single Family Residential District),
Richard Dennen Old Towne.
• Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by James Martini and Deborah Kay Martini, and Richard Dennen -
Contractor. The modified plans showed a small separation between the existing and new gable
roof with a higher raised saddle in the middle. The applicant stated that it would not be practical
to turn the new gable in a perpendicular direction because the existing gable roof lacked the
necessary structural support. Also included were 2 alternative building elevations ("B" & "C").
MOTION by Steve Prothero to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission
with the following conditions:
Approval to be based on Scheme "C" with modifications.
Extend the roof out to create a porch over the front entry. Create an archway at the porch
entry to match the front entry of the existing house.
Move corner windows at least 18 inches away from corner along north and west building
elevations.
4. Exterior building finish materials to match existing residence.
5. Provide wood windows through out.
6. Submit detail plan of porch lighting fixture, if proposed.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(6) DRB No. 3340
Pizza Pete's of Orange
1110 N. Tustin Street
Carey Sign Graphics
• Neon sign banding for a pizza restaurant
• C-1 (Limited Business) District
The project was presented by Joe De Santis, owner of the business. This is the former Round Table
Pizza that is being changed to Pizza Pete's. The proposal is to install 2 rows of neon banding along the
fascia area to accentuate the new wall sign. The top neon banding is red in color and the bottom one is
yellow. The wall sign has ready been permitted for this building.
The DRB commented that the neon banding is not appropriate for this building, and does not enhance its
architecture. The DRB suggested various different design approach to better enhance the restaurant,
including the use of additional landscaping in the parking lot area.
MOTION by Robert Reilly to continue this item for the applicant to look at alternative design
methods for enhancing the existing building.
SECOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Steve Prothero
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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DRB No. 3342
American Heritage
114 South Glassell Street
Ray Minardi
• Store front renovation of an existing
commercial building
• C-1 (Limited Business) District, Old Towne
The project was presented by the owner Ray Minardi, and John Enstead, project contractor. The
proposal is to enclose the existing open stairwell area by replacing the existing pipe rail fence with a
storefront treatment to match the existing storefront of the Orange Antique Mall. The open stairwell
represents a liability problem with pedestrian safety, and creates a hidden area for potential crime
elements. The business have already experienced 2 break-ins within the last 6 months.
MOTION by Robert Reilly to approve this item as submitted.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Steve Prothero
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRfED