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1998-05-20 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange Design Review Board MINUTES for Wednesday, May 20,1998 Board Members Present Board Member Absent Staff in Attendance Rick Cavecche (Chair) Tim McCormack Steve Prothero Robert Reilly None Chuck Lau, Associate Planner Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M. The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjourned at approximately 7:45 p.m. Regular Session - S: 30 P.M. Rick Cavecche opened the meeting. A motion was made by Rick Cavecche to defer the review and approval of the Apri122, 1998 minutes to the June 3, 1998 meeting. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED A motion was made by Steve Prothero to approve the May 6, 1998 minutes as submitted. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Boarcl Meeting Minutes for May 20, 1998 Page 2 (1) DRB No. 3284 Hojo Inn 1930 E. Katella Avenue LIM Architects • Addition and renovation of an existing motel • C-TR (Limited Business District -Tustin Street Redevelopment Project Area) The project was presented by the owner, Mr. Praful Patel and the Project Architect, Tom Lim. The plans have been revised to incorporate the board's recommended changes from the previous submittal. MOTION by Tim McCormack to approve the project subject to the following conditions: 1. Building finish material and color palette approved as submitted. The trim bands and window sills along the front building elevation facing Katella Avenue to be painted the same darker accent color used for the soffit. 2. Provide additional architectural detailing (band) along the east building elevation at the base of the pop-outs. 3. Arrange Cypresses in a formal pattern at the east end of the property to match existing Cypresses on the adjacent property. 4. Reduce spacing of Rhaphiolepis to provide fuller coverage. Suggest 24" in lieu of 48" O.C. 5. Placement of Flax to be moved away from walkways. 6. Recommend replacing the Dieter vegata with Liriope gigantea at pop-outs in groupings of either 2 or 4 at each planter. 7. Rhaphiolepis indica `Majestic Beauty' to be specified Standard Tree Form. 8. Reduce spacing of ground cover: Ivy Geranium from 12" to 8" O.C. and Needlepoint Ivy from 18" to 8" O.C. to provide fuller coverage. 9. Provide City required landscape and irrigation inspection notes on plan. 10. Final landscape plans to be reviewed and approved by City Community Services Department staff. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for May 20, 1998 Page 3 DRB No. 3300 Ford of Orange S. E. Corner Main Street &Katella Ave Dennis Flynn Architects • New automotive dealership facility • C-R (Commercial-Recreational District) The project was presented by Dennis Flynn, Architect. This is a final plan review prior to submittal for building plan check to the Building Department. The revised plans showed the changes that were recommended by the board from the previous meetings. MOTION by Tim McCormack to approve the project subject to the following conditions: 1. Final site plan and building elevations are approved as submitted. (Roof top lighting fixtures shown at 15 ft. high are approved as submitted). 2. Strongly recommend that Queen Palms be increased to 16 to 20 ft. brown trunk height to match the Washingtonian Palms which are also 16 to 20 ft. brown trunk height. 3. Carrot Wood trees to be specified Standard Tree Form. 4. Tabebuias and Melaleucas to be specified either Multiple or Standard Tree Forms. 5. Spacing of Yellow Trailing Gazania to be 8" O.C. instead of 12" O.C. 6. Provide trellis structure attached to walls for the Blood Red Trumpet Vine to achieve full coverage. Otherwise, substitute with one gallon Boston Ivy. 7. Reconsider shrub layout at service entrance driveway along Main Street. Suggest replacing the Xylosma with Ligustrum, or modified by eliminating approximately 6 to 8 shrubs (Xylosma -due to its relative large size) to avoid possible vehicular sight distance problems. 8. Relocate the Flax to behind the Tabebuia tree at the planter area in front of the parts building along Main Street. 9. Street trees (Ficus Benjamina) to be located in a staggered spacing pattern to the Washingtonian Palms along Both Main Street and Katella Avenue. 10. Recommend reconsider the use of Flax that can grow up to 8 ft. high in front of the showroom area. Suggest replacing it with a shorter variety Flax that may be more appropriate at this area. 11. Provide City required landscape and irrigation inspection notes on plan. 12. Final landscape plans to be reviewed and approved by City Community Services Department staff. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: Steve Prothero MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for May 20, 1998 Page 4 3) DRB No. 3303 Orange Heights Senior Housing 340 Newport Blvd. Cathcart/Begin Landscape Architects New 87 units senior citizen housing project C-1 (Limited Business District) The project was presented by Leonard Feldner with Cathcart/Begin Landscape Architects. New plans were not submitted for this meeting because there are no design changes. The DRB noted that the landscape plan does not correspond with the approved grading plans. Mr. Feldner replied that the grading plans have been revised and that the final landscape plans (construction documents) will match the revised grading plans. (The crib wall has now been eliminated and other off-site improvements have been changed). Mr. Feldner also stated that they intend to move forward with the preparation of construction documents. The DRB again raised concerns with the lack of accurate and updated information. It is also unclear as to what the existing native vegetation is. Mr. McCormack stated that both agricultural and geotechnical soil reports are needed to properly address the slope conditions of this site and the adjoining site. Other issues such as erosion control, fuel modification, etc. By simply saying that the cut slopes are not to be planted is not a good design approach. Other options should be studied prior to arriving at a solution. MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue this project to the next meeting for further plan development. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for May 20, 1998 Page 5 (4) DRB No. 3326 Luis E. Marquez 424 S. Olive Street Joe Mark Design • Addition onto an existing residence with new detached 2-car garage and workshop • R-4 (Multiple -Family Residential District), Old Towne The project was presented by the owner, Mr. Luis Marquez. The plans have been revised to address the board's concerns from the previous submittal. MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the project subject to the following conditions: 1. Revise the site and roof plan to correspond with the floor plan and building elevations. 2. Garage door to be a flat panel sectional roll-up door. 3. All exterior man doors to be a panel door with a 2, 3, 4 or 6 panel design. (Glass lights are also acceptable) 4. Building siding material to be 5" masonite lap siding with mitered corners. (The owner also has the option of replacing the wood siding on the existing house with the new siding) 5. New gable vents to match the existing ones in design and proportion. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: Rick Cavecche ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for May 20, 1998 Page 6 (5) DRB No. 3334 Greystone Homes S. E. Corner Canal New 123 dwelling unit residential Street & Heim Ave. condominium project Don McDougall Proposed R-3 (Multiple-Family Residential District) The project was presented by Don McDougell with Greystone Homes, and Thomas Cox - Architect. The proposal is to develop a 3-story, 123 units residential condominium project. This project is tentatively scheduled for Planning Commission hearing in late July or early August. The DRB raised concerns with on-site pedestrian access, especially the issue of the location of guest parking in relationship to the individual units. The board recognize that the total number of parking spaces exceed the minimum code requirements, however, the proposed tandem garage parking arrangement is inconvenient for its users, and therefore is likely to create parking problems. The board noted that although the architectural design of the buildings are good, the site plan layout failed to provide a comfortable environment for the occupants. The DRB could not evaluate the proposed landscaping, as there was no planting palette provided. MOTION by Steve Prothero to recommend to the Planning Commission as follows: 1. The architectural elements of the building are well thought-out, noting that the 3-story building height is mitigated with proper designed. 2. The proposed site plan layout is not acceptable. Accessibility to the units are poor due to a lack of pedestrian pathways. Some of the building layouts have garages that face each other with pedestrian access down the drive aisle between the garages.. This creates a narrow alleyway that results with an uncomfortable environment. 3. Some of the units are setback only 7ft. from the south and east property lines which are adjacent to commercial uses. It is questionable if the use of landscaping would be adequate to fully mitigate the negative impacts of such a narrow pathway. 4. The proposed tandem parking arrangement is not an acceptable solution. This also has a negative impact on guest parking. 5. The preliminary landscaping plans submitted appear to illustrate a very lush landscaping concept. However, since no planting palette was provided, the DRB cannot make any comments at this point. 6. The issue of security also needs to be addressed, particularly for all the units that front towards the adjoining commercial properties. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for May 20, 1998 Page 7 (6) DRB No. 3283 Wells Fargo Bank 101 East Chapman Avenue Plasti-Line West New multiple tenant wall signs for an existing commercial building in Old Towne C-1 (Limited Business) District The project was presented by Joyce Sehi with Quality Project Coordinating. The original signage proposal was denied by the DRB on January 21, 1998, and was subsequently appealed to the Planning Commission on March 16, 1998. The Planning Commission upheld the DRB's decision to deny the project, finding that the proposed signage is not consistent with the Old Towne Design Standards. This is a re-submittal of signage plans that have been revised in accordance with the DRB's recommendation from previous meetings. The DRB expressed concern with the revised plans as follows: • Although black color lettering already exist on the building, the use of antique bronze/gold color would be more in keeping with the period of the building. • The shape/style of the goose neck lamp fixture and its proposed color (#44 Basic White) are inappropriate for this building. Additionally, the proposed mounting location for these lighting fixtures above the entablature is also ineffective and inappropriate. • The submitted computer generated plans are only for illustrative and graphic purposes, and are not drawn to scale. The submitted plans does not provide an accurate, detailed view of how these lighting fixtures would work on the building. • The architrave molding on the entablature steps out approximately 6" to 8" from the face of the building. This area may potentially be used for the installation of some up-lighting for the wall signs. A building cross section detail is needed to determine if this a viable solution. • The overall height of the sign lettering ("WELLS FARGO" & "STARBUCKS COFFEE") shall be no more than two-thirds of the height of the vertical surface (frieze) that it is mounted on. (The existing lettering complies with this code requirement) MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the proposed wall signs, and to continue review of the lighting for the historically contributing portion of the building with the following conditions: The signage text mounted on the newer brick wall surface along the south building elevation (non-contributing portion) are approved as submitted. Recommend use of black 7" cast letters mounted with some relief from the building face (i.e. pegged). Gooseneck lighting fixtures are approved with the "E-2" arm extensions and with either the "Angle Reflector" shade or the "Emblem" Shade in a 7 inch diameter size. (The proposed "Warehouse" shade is not approved). The color of the fixture to match the color of the original main bank building. Light source (brightness) to be limited to 40 watt incandescent or 15 watt metal halide. The proposed Clarendon lettering type style is approved for the main historically contributing building. The overall height of the sign lettering ("WELLS FARGO" & "STARBUCKS COFFEE") shall be no more than two-thirds of the height of the vertical surface (frieze) that it is mounted on. Lettering color to be an antique bronze/gold color that is more in keeping with the period of the building. (Note: Extra care should be taken for the removal of the existing lettering to avoid further damage to the building, and to assure that any previous damage be patched and restored diligently to match the existing main building. City of Orange -Design Review Boarcl Meeting Minutes for May 20, 1998 Page 8 Signage lighting for the main historically contributing building is NOT approved and is continued for review due to a lack of study and detailed information. The applicant to submitted plans that provide an accurate, detailed view of how and where the lighting fixtures are to be anchored to the building. The applicant to also study an alternative solution of installing fixtures on top of the architrave molding to provide up-lighting for the wall signs. A building profile cross section detail is needed to determine if this a viable solution. SECOND: Robert Reilly AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for May 20, 1998 Page 9 (7) DRB No. 3336 Varco International 759 North Eckhoff Street WBSA Architects • New 25,000 sq. ft. industrial facility addition. • M-2 (Industrial District) (Approved on the consent calendar) MOTION by Robert Reilly to recommend approval of this project to the Planning Commission as submitted. SECOND: Rick Cavecche AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Reilly ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for May 20, 1998 Page 10 MISCELLANEOUS A motion was made by Steve Prothero to include the minutes of previous Design Review Board projects in each board members packet. SECOND: Rick Cavecche AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED