1998-04-22 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, April 22,1998
Board Members Present: Rick Cavecche
Tim McCormack
Steve Prothero (Chair)
Steve McHarris
Robert Reilly*
(*Arrived at approximately 7:30 p.m.)
Board Member Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 P.M. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 9:30 p.m.
Regular Session - S: 30 P.M.
Steve Prothero opened the meeting. The February 4, 1998, March 18, 1998 and April 1, 1998
meeting minutes were deferred for review and approval to the end of the meeting.
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A motion was made by Rick Cavecche to approve the February 4, 1998 minutes with the
following revisions:
DRB #3262 (Acute Rehab Hospital), pale 2, condition 7, amended as follows:
7. Add Boston Ivy vines at 8 ft. on center along north property line wall.
Page 2, condition 8, amended as follows:
8. Provide linear root barriers in linear planting areas in lieu of round root barriers around tree
root balls.
DRB #3291 Beazer Homes), page 7, condition 5, amended as follows:
5. Recommend replacing ground cover, Gazania, with a different shrub planting material.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Meeting Minutes for April 22, 1998
Page 3
A motion was made by Tim McCormack to approve the March 18, 1998 minutes with the
following revisions:
DRB #3319 (Gifu of Orange), page 2, concerns #3, added as follows:
Light source type, color, and quality should be studied prior to determination. Of noted
importance; will incandescent which is existing in residential areas be matched, or will whiter
light such as incandescent or metal halide be used instead of high pressure sodium?
Page 2, concern #5, added as follows:
High levels of light pollution in residential areas.
Page 3, comment #3, amended as follows:
3. Provide a "Demonstration Project" location on the street of the actual light fixtures with
frost, and without frost, luminaries, and poles, for public comments.
SECOND: Rich Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Meeting Minutes for April 22, 1998
Page 4
A motion was made by Rick Cavecche to approve the April 1, 1998 minutes with the following
revisions:
DRB #3324 (Plaza Park and QLiadrant Renovation), pale 2, paragraph 2, sentence 1, amended as follows:
Tim McCormack strongly expressed concerns with the proposed removal of the existing mature Canary
Island Pine trees at the four quadrants.
Page 2, paragraph 2, sentence 3, amended as follows:
The safety concerns of the pine needles droppings and surface roots can be mitigated with proper tree
maintenance.
Page 3, condition 4, sentence 4, amended as follows:
This maybe accomplished with a different treatment (i. e. size/spacing) and/or specie of Palm trees.
Page 3, condition 5, sentence 1, amended as follows:
Suggest that some type of treatment such as a small street tree be provided at the new sidewalk nodes.
Page 3, condition 6, sentence 1, amended as follows:
The Plaza area has lost some of its period style "Fussiness" due to open areas and lack of pathways to
define rose garden areas.
Pare 3, condition 6, sentence 2, amended as follows:
Suggest a boxwood type hedge to help define this edge and area better.
DRB #3249 (OFFSTHZpa e 4, amended as follows:
AYES: Rick Cavecche, ~''~~ r,r„r,,...,,,,,,'. Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: Tirn McCormack
DRB #3322 (Harold Looney), page 12, paragraph 3, sentence 3 amended as follows:
Recommend removal of neon which extends out beyond the sign face.
DRB #3315 (Jan West~pa~e 15, condition 5, amended as follows:
Recommend use of wood flat panel garage door.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: Steve McHarris
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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1) DRB No. 3249
Mills Corporation
City Mills Shopping Center Complex
Mesa Design Group Landscape
Architects
• Final review of parking lot landscaping
plans.
• C-2 (General Business) District
The project was presented by Debra Warner with the Mills Corporation, and Bill Milsap with the
Mesa Design Group Landscape Architects. This is an update of the site landscaping with some
minor adjustments to certain areas that have been modified. The overall design concept
remained essentially the same as the previously approved plan. There is an overall increase in
the ratio of landscape area verses the number of parking spaces through out the site. Some of the
planting materials have also been upgraded to larger size.
The board raised concerns with the 10 ft. wide landscape setback area along City Drive South,
especially along the area where the bus bay is to be located. What is the grade difference`? Are
there guard rails along the street? This area needs to be addressed.
The applicant replied that this area needs to be finalized with the City's Public Works
Department, than it would be better defimed in their next plan submittal to the board.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
1. The landscape area fronting along City Drive South needs to be better defined. This needs to be
addressed on the next plan submittal to the DRB. The submittal shall include any hardscape design
including wall and railing details.
2. Eliminate one of five Brazilian Pepper trees and rearrange at truck wells (SC2A & SC2B) to avoid
conflict with truck traffic movements.
3. The landscaping shown adjacent to tenant spaces that non-leased are approved in concept only. A
final landscape plan shall be submitted to DRB when the tenant(s) are identified. (Note: Where
there is no building, landscape areas to be curbed).
4. Extend landscape treatment further into truck well areas. This may be accomplished with ground
cover and shrubs, or vines, at the option of the developer.
5. Provide bollards at truck wells to prevent damage to curbed planter areas from truck traffic.
6. Add plant material at south side of the theater (Building `E'), especially at the main exits to help
break-up the uniform landscaping and to screen the transformers.
7. Truck well walls to be approximately 11 ft. high with stucco over CMU walls. (Exception: East side
primary entry to be 12 ft. high split-faced block with glazed tile).
8. OFF 5TH: In Lieu of landscaping, a trellis element (Espalier) is being provided against the building
face for growing vines.
9. Provide screening for transformers where possible with shrubs.
10. Consider using Brazilian Peppers on each side of truck wells at service yard (SC4) both sides.
SECOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: Tim McCormack
MOTION CARRIED
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(2) DRB No. 3249
Sega Gameworks New Retail Tenant at City Mills
City Mills Shopping Center Complex C-2 (General Business) District
Cuningham Group
Solberg + Lowe Architects
The project was presented by Debra Warner with Mills Corporation, Janice Miller and John Richardson
with Sega Game Works, Tracy Wade with the Cuningham Group. This is one of the new tenant at the
City Mill Shopping Center.
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
1. Building elevation plans are approved as submitted.
2. Increase Palm tree height to above top of roof parapet height (minimum 2T-6")
3. Provide double row of shrub.
4. Submit signage plans to DRB for review.
SECOND: Steve McHarris
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: Tim McCormack
MOTION CARRIED
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(3) DRB No. 3257
Rite Aid
1845 E. Chapman Avenue
Larry Carlson Inc., Landscape Architects
Review of landscape plans for a recently
renovated drug store.
• C-1 (Limited Business) District
The project was presented by Henry Kwon with Nadel Architects, and Larry Carlson, Landscape
Architect. The proposal is to enhance the existing landscaping on site to compliment the newly
renovated Rite Aid store (formerly Thrifty Drugs).
The DRB commented that the existing landscaping, especially the trees along Chapman Avenue, was
poorly maintained by the previous owner. The proposed enhancements would be a welcomed
improvement to the new store as well as the shopping center. The DRB recommended that the location
of the trees be coordinated so that it does not conflict with building signage.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
1. Coordinate tree placement with signage.
2. All damaged shrubs to be replaced.
3. Add Boston Ivy vine at trash enclosure.
4. Star Jasmine to be spaced maximum 18 inches on center.
5. Upgrade Crape Myrtle from 15 gallon to 24 inch box.
6. Add minimum 3 Crape Myrtle in planter strip along Chapman Avenue.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(4) DRB No. 3265
Carmax
291 N. State College Blvd.
(Orange Drive-In Theater site)
Rick Manners & Joe Bricio
• Revision to building elevations (and con-
struction method) for auto sales building
• M-1 (Light Industrial) District
• Southwest Redevelopment Project Area
The project was presented by Rick Manners with Carmax, and Joseph Bricio -Project Architect.
The proposal is to change the previously approved building material from split-face block to
concrete tilt-up because it is a more suitable material. There were also some alterations to the
layout of the roof structure.
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the revised building elevations, subject to the following
conditions:
1. Wash/Detail building material to match main showroom building.
2. Provide sight line study to verify proper roof parapet height for adequate screening of mechanical
equipment.
3. All other conditions of approval from the previous meeting shall apply.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: Robert Reilly
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(5) DRB No. 3286
Diana Livingstone
227 N. Shaffer Street
John H. Waters Architect
• Renovation and addition for an existing
single family residence
• R-2 (Duplex Residential) District, Old
Towne
The Project was presented by John Waters, Project Architect. The proposal has been substantially
revised from the previous submittal. The option of the 2-story addition has been eliminated.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
1. Exterior siding/finish, trim, brick and roof materials to be reviewed and approved by the
City's Historic Preservation Planner.
2. Provide ribbon driveway to setback of building.
3. Provide wood casement windows with true divided lights.
4. Add gable dormer at front pop-out.
5. Carport to match existing garage.
6. Maintain existing Canary Island Palm or relocate same.
7. Return to Design Review Board for final approval for:
a) Front entry door
b) Picture window and side lights
c) Front yard wall
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Rick Cavecche
MOTION CARRIED
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(6) DRB No. 3303
Orange Heights Senior Housing
340 Newport Blvd.
Cathcart/Begin Landscape Architects
• Review of landscape plans for a new 87
units senior citizen housing project
• C-1 (Limited Business) District
The project was presented by Richard Hanson - Project Architect, and Leonard Feldner with
Cathcart/Begin Landscape Architects. A soils report was submitted which shows that there are no
problem with the soils condition.
Tim McCormack commented that the plans have not been revised to address the board's concerns from
the previous meeting. Also, a grading plan still needs to be submitted by the applicant to accurately
illustrate the slope conditions of the site. It is unclear what the proposed concept is due to a lack of
information.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to continue this project to the next scheduled meeting.
SECOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(7) DRB No. 3314
Childbridge Preschools, Inc.
SEC Villa Park Road and Hewes Street
Cathcart/Begin Landscape Architects
New preschool facility in un-incorporated
County area.
Proposed R-3 (Multiple -Family
Residential) District
The project was presented by the owner, Martha Malane, Dennis Muth -Project Architect, and Leonard
Feldner with Cathcart/Begin Landscape Architects.
MOTION by Tim McCormack to approve this project subject to the following conditions:
1. The building finish materials and color palette are approved as submitted.
2. Match west side of parking lot entry to the east side by extending the sidewalk through and creating a
planter area to shift the tree further south. Selection of the tree to taken from # 5 -Parking Lot Trees,
or # 7 -Evergreen Mass Trees.
3. The #4 -Vertical Accent Trees at the circular area shall be an evergreen tree to contrast with the
deciduous accent trees.
4. Strong recommendation not to use Jacaranda in the selection of Deciduous Accent Trees.
5. Strong recommendation not to use Liquidambar in the selection of #7 -Evergreen Mass Trees at turf
area.
6. Trees at both driveway entrances off Villa Park Road and Hewes Avenue shall be setback minimum
25 ft. from the corners to allow for adequate vehicular sight distance.
7. Landscape Architect to verify toxicity of all tree selections.
8. Provide street trees per City requirements.
9. Prior to issuance of building permits, final landscape and irrigation plans shall be submitted to
Department of Community Services for approval.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve McHarris, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(8) DRB No. 3322
Harold Looney
402 W. Chapman Avenue
Anchor Sign
• New replacement blade sign for an existing
retail business
• SPZ (Specific Plan -Santa Fe Depot Area)
(Applicant not present)
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue this project.
SECOND: Steve McHarris
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve McHarris, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(9) DRB No. 3326
Luis E. Marquez • Addition onto an existing residence with
424 S. Olive Street new detached 2-car garage and workshop
Joe Mark Design R-4 (Multiple -Family Residential) District,
Old Towne
(Applicant not present)
MOTION by Steve Prothero to continue this project.
SECOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve McHarris, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(10) DRB No. 3327
K & Y Chapman Partners
1937 W. Chapman Avenue
KOBA Architects
• Renovation of an existing office complex
• C-2 (General Business) District
The project was presented by Klaus Barre, Project Architect. The proposal is to remodel an
existing office complex that is currently being used as a trade school.
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
1. Building elevations and color palette are approved as submitted.
2. Change the metal roof over the new portico to a the material to match the existing roof,
preferably using the same tiles that are being removed for the gable addition.
3. The issue of bird nesting behind the pediment and wrought iron railing false balcony of the
new portico needs to be addressed so that it does not become a maintenance problem for the
tenants.
4. Submit landscape and civil (site) plans.
SECOND: Robert Reilly
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve McHarris, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Robert Reilly
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED