1999-11-03 Final DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
for Wednesday, November 3, 1999
Board Members Present: Leonard Filner
Jack McGee
Mark Paone
Susan Secoy (Chair)
Joe Woollett (Vice Chair)
Board Member Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 7:50 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 PM
REVIEW OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Susan Secoy to approve the October 20, 1999 minutes with the
following corrections:
Pages 2 through 5, heading, sentence 2 amended as follows:
Meeting Minutes for October 20, 1999
SECOND: Jack McGee
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Mark Paone
MOTION CARRIED
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1. DRC No. 3334-B - GREYSTONE HOMES
• Proposed 48 lot residential planned unit development
• Southeast corner of Canal Street & Heim Avenue
• DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
• (Continued from 9/22/99 and 10/06/99 meetings)
The project was presented by Greg Mendoza with Greystone Homes, and Frank Radmacher -
Landscape Architect. The plans have been revised to address the DRC's concerns from the
previous meeting. The existing Eucalyptus trees are to be removed to accommodate street
widening along Heim Avenue, as required by the City Public Works Department. As a
mitigation, 2 new rows of tree massing will be provided to help lessen its impact. New street
tree will also be provided per the City's requirements. The two entrances to the tract would are
further enhanced with accent Palm trees. The building elevations that are directly facing public
streets are now better articulated with architectural trims and details. Perimeter wall/fencing
consists of a 6 ft. high, tan colored, slump stone block wall with pilasters and trim caps.
The DRC appreciates the applicant's effort in making these changes to improve the quality of
the project. The DRC would prefer to see that the architectural trims be applied to the
elevations that does not have direct street frontage, but can be viewed from the adjoining
streets.
A motion was made by Susan Secoy to recommend approval the project with the following
conditions:
1. The perimeter homes along Heim Avenue and Canal Street shall be provided with more
articulation around the windows on the second story. The articulation to consists of stucco
trim to emulate the front elevations so that it is consistent with the architecture. This
condition shall apply to all elevations (rear and/or side) that are visible from public streets,
including:
2. Provide street trees per City requirements. (Recommend a mix of 2 species of evergreen
vertical screen trees as a background to the street trees)
3. Submit final landscape and irrigation plans to Department of Community Services staff for
approval. Final plans to include City required inspection notes.
4. Exterior finish materials and color palette approved as submitted.
SECOND: Jack McGee
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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2. DRC No. 3467 -SAM DESAI
• New automotive service station with mini-mart, automated car wash and oil
change/tube facility.
• Southeast corner at Main Street and Almond Avenue
• DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
• (Continued from 10/06/99 meeting)
The project was presented by Jeff Chess and Anthony Elliott with Architekton. The plans
heave been revised to address the DRC's concerns from the previous meeting. Signage will
be submitted separately at a later date.
Mark Paone stated that although he was absent from the previous meeting, he has been
updated on the project from the meeting minutes.
The DRC stated that the revised plans are much improved from the previous submittal,
particularly the proportions of the columns and pilasters on the building which are now more
consistent. However, the roof element at the building entrances need to be strengthened.
Suggest extending the gable roof out to at least the same plane as the front horizontal fascia
band, and also extending the roof element further back towards the building to give it more of
a 3 dimensional appearance.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to recommend approval to the Planning Commission, subject to the
following conditions:
1. Final building elevations to be reviewed by the DRC to verify the articulation of the roof
elements at the building entrances and the massing of the facade, per discussion above.
2. Cashier area shall be screened from view via the use of a bulkhead of spandrel glass, or
some other type of opaque material.
3. Building exterior finish materials (including smooth plaster finish), and color palette are
approved as submitted.
4. Landscape concept plans are approved, subject to inclusion of City required landscape
and irrigation notes on final plans. Final landscape plans shall be reviewed by Department
of Community Services.
5. Submit signage plans to DRC.
SECOND: Mark Paone
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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3. DRC No. 3481 -CONSOLIDATED RESTAURANTS OF CALIFORNIA, INC.
(WENDY'S~
Addition of 2 new sign cabinets onto an existing freestanding sign for a restaurant
1237 N. Tustin Street
• DRC Action: Final Determination
(Approved on Consent Calendar)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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4. DRC No. 3485 - CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY
• New entry monument signs for Chapman University
• One University Drive (Northeast & Southeast corners of Glassell St. & University
Dr.)
• DRC Action: Final Determination
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project per the applicant's request.
SECOND: Jack McGee
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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5. DRC No. 2487 - BASANT SACHDEVA
• Building facade remodel of an existing retail center
• 1736-1746 E. Meats Avenue
• DRC Action: Final determination
The project was presented by Mr. Basant Sachdeva, Architect and owner of the shopping
center. The proposal is to renovate an existing retail center that's about 50 years old. Minor
landscape upgrade includes replacing the existing overgrown material with low shrub plants in
front of the restaurant area.
The DRC commended the applicant for his effort, and that the project is going in the right
direction. There are, however, some design issues that should be studied more carefully. It
appears that the existing restaurant (Cafe Francais) is the anchor tenant in the center, but its
front primary entrance seems to be overpowered by the new architectural element on the
adjacent elevation. The new horizontal fascia band along the store fronts needs more vertical
height to allow for proper signage opportunity (in reference to the 2/3 ratio code requirement
for wall signs). Perhaps the cornice element can be carried over to the rest of the center, and
the mansard the roof can be eliminated altogether. The proposed color palette should be more
consistent with some of the recent commercial projects that has been approved by the DRC.
A good example would be the Orange Villa Shopping Center at the southwest corner of Tustin
Street and Meats Avenue. Also, a conceptual landscape needs to be submitted to identified
the new planting materials to be used in the existing planter area.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project based on the above discussion.
SECOND: Jack McGee
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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6. DRC No. 3488 -RANDY 8~ SHELBA HANSHAW
New 2-story single family residence
6123 E. Cliffway Drive (Tract No. 13913 -Lot 1)
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by Mr. Greg Sponseller with Champion Development. The proposal
is to construct a new 2-story 5,998 sq.ft. residence on a vacant parcel of slightly over one acre
in size. The adjacent property to the east is the site of an above ground water tank house to
be constructed in the future, and the new house will partially be screened by the adjacent
hillside from the Orange Park Acres community to the east.
Mr. Bob Bennyhoff, representing the Orange Park Acres Planning Committee, was also
present at the meeting to express his concerns to the DRC.
The DRC expressed concerns with reviewing the proposed development without a conceptual
landscaping plan and site section plans, particularly for a site on a hill top that can be viewed
from 3 sides. The DRC would prefer to see some type of landscape element to help soften the
view from down the hills below, but the Fire Department may not approve the placement of
trees in this area due to fuel modification requirements. If that is the case, then the applicant
must come up with some alternative solutions. it may potentially have a significant impact on
the square footage and location of the structure(s), and the type of landscaping on the site. It
is a real concern that the applicant has not yet contacted the City's Fire Department for fuel
modification requirements.
MOTION by Mark Paone to continue the project with the following conditions
1. Submit conceptual landscape plans. (Applicant to meeting with the City's Fire Department
for verification of fuel modification requirements).
2. Submit exterior finish material sample and color palette.
3. Submit site section plans. (minimum 2 views: from Orange Acres, and Cannon Street)
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
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7. DRC No. 3489 -CITY OF ORANGE
• New concession building and restroom facility, and renovation of an existing
restroom at an existing public park in the Old Towne district
• Southeast Terrace at Hart Park
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Susan Secoy asked if anyone in the audience wishes to address the DRC, since the project is
located within the Old Towne District. (None)
The DRC also made reference to and agreed with the recommendations and findings outlined
in a letter dated November 1, 1999, from the City's historic preservation consultant, Mr. Robert
J. Chattel.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. Existing trees (Pine, Jacaranda, Chinese Elm) shall be maintained or relocated.
2. New structures shall be ADA compliant.
The approval was made based on the following findings:
1. The project conforms to the Old Towne Design Standards.
2. The project complies with the Secretary of the Interior's Standards and Guidelines.
3. The project will not adversely affect the significant architectural features of the existing
building, nor adversely affect the character of historical, architectural, or aesthetic interest
or value of the building, Its site, or the surrounding area.
SECOND:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAINED:
Leonard Filner
Leonard Filner, Jack McGee,
None
None
None
Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
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