1999-07-21 Final DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
for Wednesday, July 21, 1999
Board Members Present: Leonard Filner
Jack McGee
Mark Paone
Susan Secoy (Chair)
Joe Woollett (Vice Chair)
Board Member Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 8:00 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 P.M.
A motion was made by Mark Paone to nominate Susan Secoy as Chairperson and Joe Woollett
as Vice Chair.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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1. DRC No. 3393 - VONS
Signage for a newly remodeled grocery store
4637 E. Chapman Avenue
DRC Action: Final Determination
(Approved as consent item)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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2. DRC No. 3403 -CORNING DEVELOPMENT
Final landscape plans for an existing retail shopping center
940 N. Tustin Street
DRC Action: Final Determination
The Project was presented by James McLaughlin, Architect. This is a review of the final
landscaping plans prior to issuance of building permits. The final plans incorporate the required
changes from the March 3, 1999 DRB meeting.
MOTION by Leonard Filner to approve the project, subject to the following conditions:
1. Relocate or eliminate the trees that are in conflict with the location of parking lot lighting.
2. Provide City required inspection notes on landscape and irrigation plans.
3. The use of Brachychiton trees are acceptable along the front of the property.
4. Recommend that linear root barriers be used with the planting of Coral trees to avoid future
surface root problems.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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3. DRC No. 3422 -JONES DEVELOPMENT GROUP
Sign program for a newly remodeled retail shopping center
2004-2094 N. Tustin Street (SWC Tustin & Meats)
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by the owner Mr. Craig Jones, and Jim Dietz with Architects Orange.
The shopping center is currently undergoing renovation per the DRB's approval on April 7,
1999. This is the new sign program to compliment the new design of the center.
MOTION by Mark Paone to approve the project, subject to the following conditions:
1. The third sentence on page 1 of the new sign program to read "....two thirds of the vertical
fascia surface......".
2. Clarification that the two existing freestanding signs along Tustin Street and Meats Avenue
are to be "Modified".
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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4. DRC No. 3441 -CHEVRON
• New freestanding signs and fuel pump canopy signs for a new automotive service
station and carwash facility
• 8544 E. Chapman Avenue (SWC Chapman & Jamboree)
• DRC Action: Final Determination
(Applicant not present)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project, and to direct staff to inform the applicant that
a submittal of the entire sign package is required.
SECOND: Mark Paone
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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5. DRC No. 3445 -THE MILLS CORPORATION
Modification of an approved sign program for a shopping center
The Block at Orange
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by Carrie Mullner with the Mills Corporation. This is a proposal to
modify the approved sign program for The Block at Orange shopping center to allow the
"Stylon" signs to have color graphics, and a limited area of text and logo. The project has been
scheduled for Planning Commission hearing on August 2, 1999.
The DRC expressed concerns with the use of the entire bottom panel for advertising purposes,
and felt that some limitation should be placed on the area that are used for text. Otherwise the
DRC finds that the proposed modifications would not have a significant visual impact from
surrounding public view. The project would add greater diversity of graphics and signage within
the shopping center.
MOTION by Mark Paone to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission
with the following conditions:
1. The lower 50% of the bottom panel be used for text and/or logo in an overlay fashion.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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6. DRC No. 3457 -CHRIS EYRE
Replacement front porch for an existing residence within the Old Towne District
637 E. Van Bibber Avenue (Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by the owner, Mr. Chris Eyre. The proposal is to remove the
existing lattice work in front of the house and replace it with a new entry porch. This is a 1917
Bungalow, listed as a contributing structure in the Old Towne District.
The DRC appreciates the applicant's intention and effort to improve the existing house, but is
concerned with the execution of the plans in terms of not having the proper construction details.
The DRC strongly recommends the use of design professionals to prepare the necessary plans.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project for the applicant to submit revised plans and
exterior finish material samples and color palette.
SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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7. DRC No. 3458 -PAUL HUDSON
Second story dormer addition and demolition/addition at the rear of an existing
residence located within the Old Towne District
212 S. Orange Street (Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by the owner Mr. Paul Hudson, and Rick Anderson -Architect. The
proposal is to add a second story dormer and add to the rear of an existing single family
residence. The residence is a 1911 Craftsman, listed as a contributing structure. The project
has been scheduled for Planning Commission hearing on August 16, 1999.
The DRC discussed the bulk and mass issues and raised concerns with the second story
addition not appearing like a real dormer, but more like a new roof being added to the existing
house. The roof should be lowered to make it more dormer-like. Also of concern is the rear
elevation which seems very busy and disruptive, particularly the rear deck balcony which
appears a bit foreign to the existing vernacular of the house.
The applicant stated that the rear balcony is an important functional aspect to the design as it
provides much needed natural light and ventilation to the interior of the house, and it adds
valuable private open space for the enjoyment of the occupants. Also, the balcony cannot be
seen from public view because it is in the back of the house. As for the new dormer, there
should not be any problems with lowering it to reduce the appearance of bulk and mass.
Joe Woollett stated that he would not be opposed to the rear balcony. He is more concern with
the roof height of the new second story addition.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission
with the following conditions:
1. Reduce the bulk and mass of the second floor addition at the rear by lowering the ridge of
the roof to a height in between the existing roof of the main house and the roof of the
existing front dormer.
2. The second floor addition at the rear shall be more dormer-like with the inclusion of
architectural details to match the existing house.
3. Exterior finish materials and colors to match the existing house and garage, including the
use of horizontal wood siding at the rear balcony railing.
SECOND: Jack McGee
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee,
NOES: Joe Woollett
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
Mark Paone, Susan Secoy
MOTION CARRIED
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8. DRC No. 3448 -SELECT LEASING & VIKING PLUMBING
Construction of two new truck storage and maintenance buildings for an existing
industrial facility.
2300 N. Batavia Street
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by the project architect Gus Orozco. The proposal is to construct
two separate buildings primary used for storage and maintenance purposes. The site is well
hidden behind other properties adjacent to the east that front onto Batavia Street. The site is
also separated from the Santa Ana River by an existing equestrian stable adjacent to the west.
The project has been scheduled for Planning Commission Hearing on August 16, 1999.
The DRC raised the following concerns:
• There is an existing 5 ft. wide utility easement along the southern edge of the property.
How is this area accessed and how would it be maintained? Need better solution than just
concrete.
• Submit conceptual landscape plans. City code requires minimum 10% of parking lot area to
be landscaped. Suggest foundation planting along edge of buildings.
• All roof mounted mechanical equipment must be properly screened from view.
• All outdoor storage must be properly screened from view, particularly along the west edge
of property adjacent to the equestrian stables. Suggest use of combination fence/wall and
landscaping for screening (10 ft. high chain-link fence with wood slates and planting of vines
are acceptable)
• Building elevations are rather stark. Better articulation is needed. Suggest adding
architectural elements to help create some interest to the building.
• Submit finish material sample and color palette. Suggest use of different materials and
colors to add texture and interest to the building. (i.e. split-face block combined with
precision block)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue this project with the following recommendations:
1. Emphasis should be placed on the landscape plans, particularly screening the view along
the west edge of the property.
2. Suggest use of expansion joints to add rhythm to the overall building facade. Also suggest
incorporating the use of CMU such as split-face block at the lower level. Other elements
such as canopies may be helpful in providing some relief and shade/shadow to the building.
SECOND: Jack McGee
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee,
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
MOTION CARRIED
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9. DRC No. 3449 -SCOTT CHRISTIANSEN
Front entry door build-out and window replacement for an existing residence located
within the Old Towne District
364 N. Cambridge Street (Non-Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by the owner Scott Christiansen. The proposal is to replace two
existing front windows, and building out the front entry of the house. The next phase would be
to add a new front entry porch to the house. Although the property is located within the Old
Towne District, it is not listed as a contributing structure.
The DRC stated that some type of porch element would help to add some relief and definition to
the entry of the house. The proposed changes are an improvement over the existing, but it can
be better. Also, the type of windows to be used needs to be specified.
MOTION by Joe Woollett to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND: Jack McGee
AYES: Jack McGee, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: Leonard Filner, Mark Paone
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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10. DRC No. 3450 -ORANGE HILLS RESTAURANT
New parking structure for an existing restaurant
6410 E. Chapman Avenue
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
(Applicant not present)
MOTION by Jack McGee to continue this item.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Mark Paone
MOTION CARRIED
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11. DRC No. 3451 -WESTERN DENTAL
Wall signs for a dental office
530 S. Main Street
DRC Action: Final Determination
(Approved as consent item)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND: Jack McGee
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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12. DRC No. 3454 - PRISCILLA SELMAN
Removal of an enclosed front porch and addition of a new rear facing roof dormer for
an existing residence located within the Old Towne District
191 s. Cambridge Street (Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by Susan Secoy -Architect. The existing residence is a 1915
Craftsman, listed as a contributing structure. The existing front porch has been enclosed over
time. The proposal is to remove the porch enclosure and revert back to its original condition.
Also proposed is the addition of a rear facing dormer that matches the size and proportion of
the existing front dormer on the house. The architectural details, finish materials and colors are
to match the existing house. The project has scheduled for Planning Commission hearing on
September 8, 1999.
MOTION by Leonard Filner to recommend approval of the project as submitted to the Planning
Commission.
SECOND: Jack McGee
AYES: Leonard Filner, Jack McGee, Mark Paone, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Susan Secoy
MOTION CARRIED