1999-05-05 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange
Design Review Board
MINUTES
for Wednesday, May 5, 1999
Board Members Present: Rick Cavecche*
Tim McCormack, Chair
Steve Prothero, Vice-Chair
Susan Secoy
('Left at approximately 5:50 p.m.)
Board Member Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Jim Donovan, Senior. Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m.. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 8:00 p. m.
City of Orange -Design Review Board
Meeting Minutes for May S, 1999
Page 2
Regular Session - S: 30 P.M.
A motion was made by Rick Cavecche to approve the April 7, 1999 minutes with the following
revisions:
DRB #3358 (Investor Real Company), pale 4, condition 4, sentence 4, amended as follows:
The Rite Aid corporate signs A, D, G, H, I and J are incorrect and ~r° ~~* „~r,-~.~°`~ do not apply.
DRB #3411 (Joseph & Alicia Nessl), page 6, comment 6, amended as follows:
• The style should be in keeping with the period of the existing house, but ~ee~ needs to ~-en
utilize some ~s of the 40's and SO's architectural design elements.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Susan Secoy
MOTION CARRIED
A motion was made by Steve Prothero to approve the April 21, 1999 minutes with the following
revisions.
DRB #34I 1 (Joseph & Alicia Nessl~page 6 condition 3, sentence I and 2 amended as follows:
3. Add "belly band" along the north and east elevations to help delineate the first and second
stories of the building. The south elevation may be provided with either a "belly band" or the
proposed trellis element shown on plan.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Meeting Minutes for May S, 1999
Page 3
(1) DRB No. 3370
The Courtyard New 2-story in-fill retail space addition in
152 & 154 N. Glassell Street Old Towne
Lesson F. Pomeroy -Architect C-1 (Limited Business District)
The project was presented by the owner and architect, Mr. Lesson Pomeroy. This is a final
review of the building's exterior finish material and color palette. Also included are the
manufacturer's specifications (cut sheets) of exterior lighting fixtures. The landscape planter in
the courtyard and in the parking lot area are planted with Sycamore trees.
MOTION by Tim McCormack to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
1. Submit signage plans to DRB for approval.
SECOND: Rick Cavecche
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Susan Secoy
MOTION CARRIED
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Meeting Minutes for May S, 1999
Page 4
(2) DRB No. 3383
Dan Arguello Residential addition in Old Towne
604 E. Almond Avenue R2-6 (Duplex Residential District)
Brian Davis Recommendation to Plannina Commission
The revised plans were presented by Mr. Brian Davis, and the owner Mr. Dan Arguello. The
changes include window modifications (multi-panes), increased top plate height, and added
architectural details.
The DRB finds that with the revisions that have been made with the added architectural features
and elements, the proposed project is consistent with the Old Towne Design Standards.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project subject to the following conditions:
1. Outriggers to be relocated below the fascia.
2. Submit exterior finish material sample and color palette.
3. Submit manufacturer's specifications (cut sheet) of exterior lighting fixtures. (if proposed)
4. Maintain an 18" wide planter on each side of the new ribbon driveway along the residence and side
(east) property line. (ribbon driveway to be two-three-two foot proportions)
5. Provide pre-cast concrete cap on top of front porch column bases.
6. Provide molding element on top of front porch columns.
7. Provide pre-cast stone cap on top of chimney.
8. Provide drip molding above second story windows.
9. Submit final plans back to DRB for approval, prior to issuance of building permits.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rick Cavecche
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Meeting Minutes for May S, 1999
Page 5
DRB No. 3392
Villa Modena
NWC Hewes Street & Marmon Avenue
Gary R. Collins & Associates
• Final landscape review for a new 5 unit
affordable housing project
• R2-6 (Duplex Residential District)
The project was presented by Eunice Bobbert with Orange Housing Development Corporation,
and Leonard Filner with Cathcart/Begin Landscape Architects. The project was approved by
Planning Commission with several conditions of approval, including a reduction from 6 units
down to 5 units, and the additional of a tot lot at the southern corner of the property.
Tim McCormack stated for the record that this is a review of the landscape plans only. The
location and design of the newly added tot lot would not be reviewed by the DRB because it has
already been approved by the Planning Commission. However, there are concerns that with the
addition of the new tot lot, the Palm trees are not being planted at the corner. The Palm trees
were suggested by the representative (Bob Torres) of the East Chapman Improvement
Committee, who has stated that he would like to see an arrangement of Palm trees planted at the
southeast corner of the site to enhance this project.
The applicants stated that the location of the tot lot necessitated eliminating of the Palm trees
because it creates potential vehicular sight distance problems at the corner.
MOTION by Tim McCormack to approve the conceptual landscaping plans, subject to the
following conditions:
1. The design and location of the tot lot is outside the purview and jurisdiction of the DRB, and
therefore is not being considered as a part of this approval. The DRB neither objects to, nor
supports, the addition of the new tot lot.
2. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final landscape plans to DRB for approval.
Final plans to include hardscape areas, details of exterior walls and fencing, including the
materials used for the pilasters.
3. Applicant to address condition no. 3 of the January 6, 1999 DRB meeting minutes which
states: 3) Add Palm trees to the plant palette. The Palm trees to be planted in an
arrangement at the southern corner of the project site. Landscape architect to work with
City staff to determine the appropriate locations of Palm trees to avoid potential vehicular
sight distance problems.
4. Applicant to address condition no. 4 of the January 6, 1999 DRB meeting minutes which
states: 4) Provide a selection of evergreen trees that have adequate vertical massing to
provide proper screening. (The tree selection should also be compatible with Palm trees)
5. Project shall comply with City standards to have 25% of the trees at 24 inch box size, and the
remainder of the trees at 15 gallon size minimum.
6. Provide City required notes on landscape plans.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rick Cavecche
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Meeting Minutes for May S, 1999
Page 6
4) DRB No. 3409
Texaco
700 W. Chapman Avenue
Harry Mitchell
• Renovation of an existing automotive
service station in Old Towne
• C-2 (General Business District)
• Signage Review
The signage plans were presented by the owner Mr. Harry Mitchell, and Mr. Robb Lewis -corporate sign
installer for Texaco. The intent is to find a viable signage solution that would satisfy both the City's Old
Towne Design Standards and Texaco Corporation. The signs are made of open-faced individual channel
letters with exposed neon lighting. The proposal is to install the corporate logo, "TEXACO", and "Food
Mart" along the top edge of the eyebrow of the building, and also to install "Service Center" along the
fascia above the service bay opening.
The DRB questioned if the proposed signs are consistent with the Old Towne Design Standards. The
submitted plan does not contain the necessary information to show where and how the signs are to be
installed. Concerns were also raised with the proposed signage area exceeding the maximum square
footage (1 to 1 ratio) allowed by code. Perhaps the accessory signs (Food Mart & Service Center) can be
be smaller in size so that it is subordinate to the primary (TEXACO) sign. The accessory signs should also
be made of a different material (i.e. metal) and be mounted on the building fascia. The proposed signage
should be drawn accurately to scale and be shown proportionally on the building elevations.
MOTION by Tim McCormack to continue the project in order for the applicant to submit revised plans
based on the above discussion.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rick Cavecche
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Meeting Minutes for May 5, 1999
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5) DRB No. 3427
Creek View Senior Community New 70 unit senior housing project
353 S. Tustin Street C-1 (Limited Business District)
Richard Hanson -Architect Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by the owners Leon Hyter and Bret Hyter, and the Project Architect
Richard Hanson. The project has been revised to addressed the board's concerns from the
previous meeting. The building has been shifted 5 ft. towards the front to create additional
landscape area at the rear parking lot area. The end island planters have also been widened for a
substantial increase in landscaping. Also submitted are exterior finish material samples and
color palette.
The DRB discussed the use of culture stones. Traditional masonry techniques use larger stones
on the bottom and then lay the stones in an ascending size to the top of the wall. The Board
stated that the use of culture stones is acceptable, but cautioned that the river rock culture stones
are the least acceptable.
MOTION by Steve Prothero to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission
subject to the following conditions:
1. Move the building back to provide a 15 to 20 ft. front yard setback. (Minimize planter in
rear parking lot area to allow site plan changes and add parking spaces)
2. Submit manufacturer's specifications (cut sheet) of lighting fixtures to be used in the parking
lot. (Parking lot lighting plan to coordinate with landscaping to avoid potential conflicts)
3. Stonework needs further study. More attention to detail is needed based on the above
discussion.
4. Building exterior shall be provided with a smooth (trowel) finish plaster.
5. Add windows to the upper level to create more interest along the north building elevation.
6. Increase height of chimney by one (1) foot.
7. Project shall comply with City standards to have 25% of the trees at 24 inch box size, and the
remainder of the trees at 15 gallon size minimum.
8. Provide City required notes on landscape plans.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rick Cavecche
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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Meeting Minutes for May S, 1999
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(6) DRB No. 3431
Orange Town & Country North
691 S. Main Street
Architects Orange
• Sign program for a new retail shopping
center
• C-2 (General Business District), and C-3
(General Commercial District)
(Approved on the Consent Calendar)
MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND: Steve Prothero
AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED