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1999-01-06 Final DRC MinutesCity of Orange Design Review Board MINUTES for Wednesday, January 6, 1999 Board Members Present: Rick Cavecche Tim McCormack* Steve Prothero Susan Secoy (*Arrived at approximately 6:10 p.m.) Board Member Absent: None Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator Administrative Session - 4: 30 P.M. The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m.. The meeting adjourned at approximately 10:30 p. m. City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 2 Regular Session - 5: 30 P.M. A motion was made by Susan Secoy to approve the November 4, 1998 minutes as submitted. SECOND: Steve Prothero AYES: Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: Rick Cavecche MOTION CARRIED A motion was made by Rick Cavecche to approve the November 18, 1998 minutes as submitted. SECOND: Susan Secoy AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED A motion was made by Rick Cavecche to approve the December 2, 1998 minutes as submitted. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy MOTION CARRIED No motion was needed regarding the December 16, 1998 minutes as the meeting was cancelled. City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 3 (1) DRB No. 3297 Salem Lutheran Church 6500 E. Santiago Canyon Road Nobles & Associates -Architects Expansion of existing church and school facilities R-1 (Residential -Single Family District) Recommendation to City Council The project was presented by Ted Morris with Noble & Associate Architects, Carol Begin with Cathcart/Begin Landscape Architects, and Skip Raymond with Salem Lutheran Church. The project has been reviewed by the Planning Commission and approved by the City Council. A condition of approval was placed on the project which requires that the final plans be brought back to the City Council for final approval. The landscaping plans have been further refined to better address the board's concerns from the previous meeting. The various school buildings on the campus were constructed over a period time which does not have a dominant theme or style of architecture. Eventually, the existing buildings would be painted the same colors to match the new building as part of maintenance over time. The DRB expressed concerns with the aesthetics of the building, particularly the north and west elevations, due to its proximity to the street. Better articulation and more diversity is needed, such as the use of exposed rafter ends to emulate ranch style architecture, and by varying the color and/or texture to help further break up design elements. Other issues of concern include the location of mechanical equipment in relation to roof parapet height for proper screening, and the requirement for a site lighting fixture plan to demonstrate that lighting is shielded and directed away from adjoining residences. The applicants responded that they have met with the people in the neighbor on several occasions, and that the project have already been significantly revised and compromised to satisfy the needs of the neighbors. The intent is to have a low key, understated building that would not be obtrusive to the neighborhood. There are definite concerns with being too creative with new designs or color schemes. The applicants were also under the impression that the color palette had already been approved from the previous meeting. As for the issue of lighting, a photometric plan will be submitted to the Police Department Crime Prevention Bureau for review and approval. Additional concerns were raised by Tim McCormack regarding the new irrigation system and how it would work with the existing one. He also noted that the playground equipment layout were not shown on the plans. Mr. McCormack cautioned the applicants that there are certain safety standards pertaining to the placement of playground equipment that needs to be addressed. (Continued next page) City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 4 (DRB #3297 Continued) MOTION by Steve Prothero to recommend approval of the project to the City Council, subject to the following conditions: 1. Landscape plan is approved as submitted with all new landscaping material to be properly irrigated with either the existing irrigation system, or that a new irrigation system be provided. 2. The top of roof mounted mechanical equipment shall be no higher than the top of parapet wall height. 3. The roof parapet screen wall to be painted the same color to match the roof the color. 4. Further study adding secondary colors to help break-up some of the elements of the building (possibly the balcony faces). Submit final color scheme to DRB for approval. 5. Site lighting to be shielded and directed away from adjoining residential properties. Submit lighting fixture plan and photometrics to DRB for approval. SECOND: Susan Secoy AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 5 (2) DRB No. 3349 LA Fitness • Parcel 5, The Block @ City Mills Terrell D. Nemnich, Architect New health spa/sports club facility C-2 (General Business District) The project was presented by Terry Nemnich -Project Architect, and Debra Warner with the Mills Corporation. The plans have been revised to addressed the board's concerns from the previous meeting. MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve this project subject to the following conditions: 1. Eliminate two (2) Liquidambers in front of the graphic panels along the south building elevation to maintain a continuous rhythm of tree spacing. 2. Provide a 3 ft. setback for hedge planting adjacent to head-in parking stalls to prevent vehicles from overhanging into and damaging the hedge plantings. This area to be planted with either turf, or ground cover such as English Ivy. SECOND: Susan Secoy AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: Tim McCormack MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 6 3) DRB No. 3373 Burger King Restaurant 4402 E. Chapman Avenue Anderson Associates New restaurant with drive-thru window C-1 (Limited Business District) Recommendation to Planning Commission The project was presented by Richard Anderson -Project Architect, and Bill Carrig with Burger King Franchise. The project has been revised to address the DRB's concerns from the previous meeting. The project has also been reviewed by Mr. Bob Torres with the East Chapman Improvement Committee. Mr. Torres stated that other than the potential increase in traffic that are often associate with fast food drive-thru restaurants, he would have no objections to the proposed design of the new building. He would also like to see the use of Palm trees on this site, as it is aesthetically pleasing and relatively easy to maintain. The DRB stated that the revised plan is substantially improved over the previous submittal. However, the cornice details, arch element, and wall pop-out element needs further refinement. MOTION by Rick Cavecche to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission with the following conditions: 1. Reduce the cornice element to be more proportional to the building's architecture. 2. The arch element needs more depth and header space above in order to read correctly. However, if further design study reveals that the building lacks the necessary height, then the arch element may be eliminated entirely. 3. Modify the wall pop-out adjacent to the main entrance along the west building elevation to have more mass and more in keeping with the mission style architecture. 4. Color palette approved as submitted. 5. Top of roof mounted mechanical equipment shall be no higher than the top of parapet wall. 6. Eliminate middle the band at column. (Retain base the band) 7. Add planter (5 to 7 ft. wide) along drive-thru lane. If planter is 5 ft. wide, then plant with single row of hedge. If planter is 7 ft. or wider, then plant with double row of hedges. (Ligustrum minimum 5 gallon at 3 ft. on center) 8. Increase size of Queen palms from 15 gallon to 24 inch box. Queen palms to be aligned with the right-of--way along the west property line. 9. Replace Australian Willow with California Sycamore (24 inch box). 10. Add tree on the left side of the driveway entrance along Park Street. 11. Add minimum 5 gallon hedge planted at 36 inches on center along east property line. 12. Add minimum one gallon Boston Ivy vine planted at 8 ft. on center at trash enclosure. 13. Submit lighting photometric plans to City for approval. (Plans to have specific attention on preventing light spillage onto adjoining properties). 14. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final site, building elevation and landscape plans to DRB for approval. 15. Submit signage plans to DRB for approval. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 7 (4) DRB No. 3377 Lutheran High School 2222 N. Santiago Boulevard Architects Orange Expansion of an existing school facility R-1-8 (Single Family Residential District) Recommendation to Planning Commission The project was presented by Darrel E. Hebenstreit with Architects Orange. This project has been scheduled for public hearing before the Planning Commission on January 18, 1999. The plans have been revised per the City Traffic Engineering Division to address traffic safety issues. Two additional building elevations are provided per DRB's request. Except for some minor revisions, the basic overall design concept remains unchanged. Also provided are the exterior finish material samples and color palette. The landscaping plans have been revised to address the comments of the DRB from the previous meeting. The existing Pine trees will not be retained. The submitted photometric plan and cut-sheets showed that there would be no increase in light spillage from what currently exists. MOTION by Steve Prothero to recommend approval to the Planning Commission with the following conditions: 1. Building elevation plans approved as submitted. 2. Indicate location of roof mounted mechanical equipment and method of screening. 3. Exterior finish materials and color palette are approved as submitted. 4. Add street trees per Department of Community Services requirements. 5. Add trees at median at entrance to the site. 6. Create a Palm tree promenade (symmetrical) in area between the tennis courts. 7. Lighting to coordinate with landscaping. 8. Eliminate the Giejera parviflora (Australian Willow) and replace with a tree selection that provides more screening along the south edge of the property. 9. Submit final landscaping plans to DRB for approval. (Final plan to indicate size, spacing, and specie of plant material) SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 8 (5) DRB No. 3381 Selman Chevrolet 1800 E. Chapman Avenue Architects Orange • Expansion of an existing automotive dealership • C-2 (General Business District) The project was presented by Hugh Rose with Architects Orange. The project was approved on December 7, 1998 by the Planning Commission. This is a final review of the new body shop office building, prior to submittal of construction documents to the Building Department for permit issuance. Steve Prothero stated that the existing 6 ft. high chain-link fence adjacent to the body shop office is a poor solution, and would like to see the new masonry block wall extended the full length of the parking lot. Tim McCormack further stated that street trees should be provided along Chapman Avenue and Tustin Street. MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the project, subject to the following conditions: 1. Roof top mechanical equipment shall be properly screened from view. (If equipment is located towards the center of the building, then the equipment can be maximum 6 inches higher than the roof parapet height. If equipment is located near the edge of the building, then the top of the equipment shall be no higher than the top of roof parapet height) 2. Extend the 6 ft. high masonry block wall the full length of the parking lot to the south property line. (8"x 8"x 16" masonry block with 8" score line to match existing) 3. Provide street trees in existing tree wells along Chapman Avenue and Tustin Street. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Tim McCormack, NOES: Rick Cavecche ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 9 (6) DRB No. 3383 Dan Arguello 604 E. Almond Avenue Brian Davis Residential addition in Old Towne R2-6 (Duplex Residential District) Recommendation to Planning Commission The project was presented by the owner Dan Arguello, and Brian Davis. The proposal is to add approximately 1,275 sq.ft. of living area and a new 2-car garage onto an existing single family residence located in Old Towne. The project includes the demolition of an existing garage and carport, and a portion of the existing "non-contributing" residence. The project will required Planning Commission approval at a later date. The DRB stated that although the existing residence is listed as anon-contributing structure, new additions must still comply with the Old Towne Design Standards which states: "Additions to and rehabilitation of non-contributing buildings shall use the design features of the buildings original period, and shall be compatible with its surroundings with respect to size and scale". The proposed project contains many contemporary design features, most noticeably the attached garage, that are not consistent with the Old Towne Design Standards. MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue the project for plan revisions to comply with the Old Towne Design Standards. SECOND: Susan Secoy AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 10 DRB No. 3389 Chevron 1405 W. Chapman Avenue Greq Hohn • Signage for an existing carwash facility • C-2 (General Business District) (Approved on the Consent Calendar) MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project subject to the following condition: 1. The P.O.S. (Point of Sale) signs are not approved. SECOND: Susan Secoy AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: Tim McCormack ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 11 (8) DRB No. 3391 Ford of Orange SEC Main Street & Katella Avenue AAA Floodlight & Signs • Signage for a new automotive dealership • C-R (Commercial -Recreation District) The project was presented by Ben Horwich with AAA Floodlight & Signs. The proposal is to install a new freestanding sign with the corporate logo, and several directional signs through out the site to facilitate pedestrian and vehicular traffic. A sign variance (VAR #2058-98) was approved by the Zoning Administrator to allow an increase in height of max. 35 ft. for the freestanding sign, and 5 ft.-4 in. for the directional signs. Also approved was an increase in size to a maximum of 13 sq.ft. for the directional signs. The freestanding sign would remain at a maximum of 160 sq.ft. There are no restrictions on the number of directional signs that can be installed on the site. Tim McCormack asked if a base with a similar character can be added to the freestanding sign to match the base of the directional signs? Mr. Horwich responded that this is a corporate design that they do not wish to modify, as it would be inconsistent with the signs in other locations. MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project, subject to the following condition: 1. The color and texture of the base of the directional signs to match the building. MOTION AMENDED by Tim McCormack as follows: 2. Add a base to the freestanding sign to match the base of the directional signs. SECOND: Susan Secoy AYES: Tim McCormack, Susan Secoy NOES: Rick Cavecche ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: Steve Prothero MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 12 (9) DRB No. 3392 Villa Modena New 6 unit affordable housing project NWC Hewes Street & Marmon Avenue R2-6 (Duplex Residential District) Gary R. Collins & Associates Recommendation to Planning Commission The project was presented by Gary Collins - Project Architect, and Carol Begin with Cathcart/Begin Landscape Architects. The proposal is to construct a new 6 dwelling unit affordable housing project on a 1/3 acre site. The project has been scheduled for Planning Commission review on February 1, 1999. Mr. Bob Torres, representing the East Chapman Improvement Committee, stated that he has no objections to the proposed project, but would like to see an arrangement of Palm trees planted at the south corner of the site to enhance this project. The DRB commented on the following: • The building's architecture is rather subdue and understated. • The small planters adjacent to the garage door openings at the interior courtyard may not work because it may conflict with vehicular maneuvering in this area. Perhaps some trellis element with vine pockets can be provided to help soften the building. • The selection of trees in the plant palette are rather slow in growth. Need a selection of evergreen trees that have adequate vertical massing to provide proper screening. The tree selection should also be compatible with Palm trees. • The existing public sidewalk is not wide enough to accommodate any street trees. MOTION by Rick Cavecche to recommend approval to the Planning Commission with the following conditions: 1. Building elevation plans, exterior finish material and color palette approved as submitted. 2. If the small planters adjacent to the garage door openings at the interior courtyard cannot be retained due to conflict with vehicular maneuvering, then some type of trellis element with vine pockets should be provided to help soften the building. 3. Add Palm trees to the plant palette. The Palm trees to be planted in an arrangement at the southern corner of the project site. 4. Provide a selection of evergreen trees to the plant palette. Tree selection to have adequate vertical massing to provide proper screening. The tree selection should also be compatible with Palm trees. 5. Submit final landscaping plans to DRB for approval. SECOND: Susan Secoy AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 13 (10) DRB No. 3393 Vons 4509 E. Chapman Avenue Nadel Architects • Facade remodel of an existing market • C-1 (Limited Business District) The project was presented by David Larson with Nadel Architects. The proposal is to update the building elevations of an existing Vons Supermarket. The project was also reviewed by Mr. Bob Torres with the East Chapman Improvement Committee, and has stated that he is in agreement with the proposed design of the building. The DRB commended the applicants for their efforts to upgrade the existing market as the building design has become outdated. The board expressed concerns with the location of the existing transformer in relationship to the new east tower element. MOTION by Rick Cavecche to continue the project with the following conditions: 1. Submit site plan and detail drawing of east tower element. 2. Submit signage plans to DRB for approval. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 14 (11) DRB No. 3394 McDonald's Restaurant and Chevron 105 E. Katella Avenue RHL Design Group, Inc. New automotive service station and restaurant with drive-thru window C-1 (Limited Business District) Recommendation to Planning Commission The project was presented by Don Ikler with Hogle-Ireland, Mark Bookstan with RHL Design Group Architects, and Debra Marinozzi with McDonald's Corporation. The proposal is to construct a new automotive service station (Chevron) and restaurant (McDonald's) with drive- thru. The project has been scheduled for Planning Commission hearing on February 1, 1999. The board expressed concerns as followed: • Lack of a planter island at the north end of the center parking aisle. • Location of transformer adjacent to east driveway entrance at Katella Avenue. • Directional signs that are unnecessary at the two driveway entrances at Katella Avenue. • "Point-of-sale" signs exceed square footage allowed by code. • Selection of tree (Rhaphiolepis indica) that is more of a shrub than a tree with substantial canopy. • Street trees not shown on plans. • Proper screening of roof top mechanical equipment. • Coordination of the location of parking lot trees and lighting fixtures. MOTION by Steve Prothero to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission with the following conditions: 1. Replace tree selection (Rhaphiolepis indica) with any of the following; True Green Elm, Chinese Flame tree, Platanus acerifolia, or Tristania. 2. Add diamond shaped planter and tree at northeast end parking aisle. 3. Recommend use of an alternative variety to Pittosporum tobira "creme de mint, as it is susceptible to insect infestation. 4. Provide street trees along both Katella Avenue and Glassell Street. 5. Indicate locations of existing trees on site. 6. Relocate transformer to northeast corner of site. 7. The height of roof mounted mechanical equipment, including satellite dish, shall not exceed the height of roof parapet. 8. Air curtains at the 2 delivery doors shall be located internal to the building. 9. Fire sprinkler risers, if required, shall be located internal to the building. 10. Submit lighting plan to DRB for approval. 11. Freestanding sign is approved with plastered finish and color to match the building. 12. Building wall signs, fuel pump canopy signs and spandrel signs are approved as submitted. 13. "Point-of-Sale" (P.O.S.) signs are not permitted. 14. Eliminate directional signs at the two driveway entrances along Katella Avenue. 15. The ATM machine is not part of this submittal. Plans to be submitted at a later date. 16. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final landscape plans to DRB for approval. SECOND: Rick Cavecche AYES: Rick Cavecche, Tim McCormack, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 15 (12) DRB No. 3395 Barry Sparks New single family residence 521 Carlisle Place • R1-40 (Single Family Residential District) Anderson Associates (Approved on the Consent Calendar) MOTION by Steve Prothero to approve the project subject to the following condition: 1. The 4 California Pepper trees at the rear shall be a minimum of 24 inch box size to help minimize the potential visual impact of the new residence being constructed relatively close to the slope. SECOND: Susan Secoy AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: Tim McCormack ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Board Meeting Minutes for January 6, 1999 Page 16 (13) DRB No. 3396 Pacific Bell 745 S. Main Street #120 Signage Solutions (Approved on the Consent Calendar) • New wall sign for a retail tenant within a shopping center • C-2 (General Business District) MOTION by Rick Cavecche to approve the project as submitted: SECOND: Steve Prothero AYES: Rick Cavecche, Steve Prothero, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: Tim McCormack ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED