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10-14-1992 - Minutes TC ��� �� CITY OF ORANGE MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING CITY TRAFFIC COMMISSION Minutes of a Regular Meeting: October 14, 1992 ROLL CALL: Present - Commissioners: D. Yarger, J. Fortier, B. Leming N. Hower, F. Sciarra Present - Staff: C. Glass, D. Allenbach, Lt. E. Tunstall B. Herrick, P. Then Absent - Staff: B. Dennis I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES September 9, 1992 - APPROVE as published by Recording Secretary. MOTION: F. Sciarra SECOND: J. Fortier AYES: Unanimous I1. CONSENT CALENDAR 1 . Request for driveway vision zone in front of 845 W. Grove Ave. Lauren Schapp - Truly Nolen Co. 2015 W. Grove Ave. Orange, CA 92665 Oral presentation was based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. There was no discussion on this item. RECOMMENDATION: That the CTC, by Motion, APPROVE the request. MOTION: J. Fortier SECOND: F. Sciarra AYES: Unanimous III. CONSIDERATION ITEMS A. Request for the installation of a '3-Way STOP' control device at the intersection of Sycamore Ave. and Waverly St. Mrs. Holmstrom 333 N. Waverly St. Orange, CA 92666 Oral presentation was based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. There was no public discussion on this item. Commissioner Fortier - I went out to the school to observe the afternoon traffic when school lets out and I observed that traffic was moving very slowly. The main problem is that people are doing U-turns, 1 saw 5 U-turns; several are stopping within the red curb area obstructing views. There weren't 10-11 kids crossing the street at the crosswalk and I saw it as a fairly safe access. RECOMMENDATION: That the CTC, by Motion, DENY the request. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: N. Hower AYES: Unanimous B. Request for the installation of a '4-Way STOP' control device at the intersection of Bond Ave. and Rancho Santiago Blvd. Larry Pore' 645 N. Ranchroad Dr. Orange, CA 92669 Oral presentation was based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. Chairman Yarger opened the public hearing for discussion of this request. Larry Pore' 654 N. Ranchroad Dr. - I live just around the corner from this intersection. We want to maintain the quality of life in our neighborhood and we should have a say in what happens in our neighborhood. We drive through this intersection every day and our children have to cross the street here to catch their school busses. Commissioner Fortier - How is this going to promote this neighborhood's welfare? 2 Larry Pore' - Every time we approach the intersection we're all apprehensive. I walk through this intersection 3 times a week and on the south side of the street there is no sidewalk so I have to cross to the north side and there is no crosswalk on the north side of the intersection. If you cross at the existing crosswalk on the south side you're about 50-75 ft. into the intersection because southbound cars cannot see you and at night I can assure you they cannot see you and 1've almost been hit a few times. I have seen the busses stop there to pick-up children for school and people are going around the busses not even paying attention to the busses and I think a STOP sign would fix that. Southbound traffic on the bike trail; there is a itty-bitty STOP sign for the bikes only, I've seen southbound traffic come to this intersection and STOP for that bike lane and then proceed. I don't know how the City has allowed these irregular intersections to occur, it is extremely wide. The west side of Rancho Santiago and Bond is a 4-lane highway, they say it's a secondary road, I � don't know why they make it that wide and 4 lanes if it's a secondary road. There are alot of cars going through this intersection all the time. Commissioner Sciarra - On Rancho Santiago there is a main concern then on the speed and the number of vehicles? Larry Pore' - I was unaware that the volume was as high as was reported by staff, 535 vehicles is pretty heavy. I have witnessed alot of speeding cars along the street and I say it's not the Police Dept. problem to try to deal with all these, obviously they can't be out there all the time and it's not a area where they would want to be high profile. There are alot more places that should receive the attention of Traffic Div. motor officers. Chairman Yaraer - I happen to live in that area too, and like yourself I walk alot. One of the things I picked up in your statement was that it seems like there may have been a greater concern for the children crossing here, would it help to have the school bus pick-up point on the south side of the street at Bond Ave., it is wide enough at the southeast side of the street. Would that be of any help to the residents of the neighborhood? I know there aren't that many houses up in that area, nor that many vehicles because it is a dead-end serving just your tract. Larry Pore' - One of the residents operates Santiago Greenhouses and they have 6-10 employees there on a daily basis and we have large semi-trucks coming in that partially block the intersection as they are entering the nursery driveway. Junior High school age kids cross here most of the time, and they cross the street anywhere they feel like it. 3 Carolyn Caverly, 638 N. Birchwood Rd. - I support the requested STOP sign. There are 60 single-family homes and those residents must pass through this intersection at least twice daily in their activities, there is no alternative route. I would like to see, at the minimum a posted 4-Way STOP, I would really like to see the Commission authorize the installation of a dedicated traffic signal for this intersection. Ben Conner, 725 Rancho Santiago Blvd. - We will directly affected by this decision since I live 2 houses north of the proposed STOP. We are opposed to this STOP. In staff's analysis of the accidents were they the type of accidents where someone was disobeying the posted STOP sign, was that a contributing factor to the accidents? Dave Allenbach - One of the accidents was listed as entering the intersection and we can maybe assume from the police report that they did not stop or yield the right-of-way to the traffic on Rancho Santiago. The other accident was listed as a right-angle type accident and those are the type of accidents we look at with regards to being correctable with the installation of a 4-Way STOP. Normally, we do not get details on County intersections, however, we did receive a report from the County and they listed only 2 accidents and I believe neither of those were correctable by the installation of a 4-Way STOP. Ben Conner - Basically, his study pointed out that there is significant traffic here and the installation of a 4-Way STOP, particularly during the morning and evening commute hours for north and southbound traffic would cause significant back-up of vehicles at this location. For the houses north of Bond Ave. that could very likely result in our inability to go southbound while waiting for the cars to clear. Possibly as an alternative would be a 4-Way STOP, or a pedestrian actuated crosswalk device to assist in crossing the street. There would be an increase in traffic volume, noise, air pollution. I would recommend more police enforcement of the speeding problem and not utilize a STOP sign. Chairman Fortier - Dave did you have an opportunity to perform a turn count in the morning peak hours of people going west on Bond entering the intersection did they make right turns or were they going straight through the intersection, or were they making left turns? Dave Allenbach - We did a turn count at this location both morning and afternoon peak hours. For eastbound traffic on Bond Ave. we have 7 cars making a left turn, 7 vehicles going through, 57 vehicles making a right turn and this was during the morning peak hour. 4 The afternoon peak hour we counted 18 vehicles making left turns, 19 cars going through and 110 vehicles making right turns for the eastbound direction. Chairman Yaraer - In the afternoon count, was that westbound traffic? Dave Allenbach - No, that was eastbound traffic going toward Mr. Pore' residential area. The westbound moves for the morning hours we had 4 vehicles making right turns, 28 cars going through and 11 vehicles making a left turn. In the afternoon peak hours there were 4 vehicles making a right turn, 13 cars going thru and 10 vehicles making left turns. Commissioner Hower - Do you have total ADT's on each leg of this intersection? Dave Allenbach - We have an ADT for Rancho Santiago Blvd. which is one of our normal count stations which indicate an average of 7,800 vehicles a day. We do not count Bond Ave. as a rule. Del Westlund, 636 Ranchroad Dr. - This is a scary intersection and every time I enter it I am on guard. I don't know the classification of Rancho Santiago Blvd. and Hewes St. but when you go from Chapman Ave. north on Hewes St., there are 3 STOP signs within this same range; on Rancho Santiago there is only one and I don't understand the reasoning there because it seems to me, without a traffic counts, that Rancho Santiago is every bit in need of more control. Dan Klonsky, 644 Ranchroad Dr. - I'd like to rebut the issue of traffic backing-up at this intersection. Because Walnut and Rancho Santiago has a 4-Way STOP installed and they have excessive traffic coming in all directions and there doesn't seem to be any major traffic back-up in that area and there doesn't seem to be any excessive pollution. This is a dangerous intersection and it should be considered for a 4-Way STOP. Chairman Yaraer - There being no other members of the audience wishing to address the Commission, I am closing the public hearing and returning this request to the Commissioners for further discussion. Commissioner Fortier - Dave, on volume alone, what would warrant a 4- Way STOP, and not considering the safety issue at this time. Dave Allenbach - Volume alone would require 300 vehicles approaching the intersection from all approaches during the 8 highest traffic hours within a 24-hour period. We barely have that during the two peak hours, the rest of the day the intersection is fairly quiet with very little traffic entering the intersection from any approach. 5 Chairman Yarger - The southeast corner of that intersection is in the County, so realistically without us coordinating with the County and getting their approval, there is nothing the City of Orange could do about installing a 4-Way STOP; is that correct? Dave Allenbach - Yes sir. Were a STOP to be approved it would have to be a cooperative effort between the City and the County. If it were the Commission's desire to approve the installation of a 4-Way STOP, then it would be our recommendation that we forward all our information on to the County so they can do their study and the approval and installation should be based on their cooperation. Chairman Yarqer - The morning figures for traffic coming westerly out of Bond, how many cars are coming out of that area in the morning peak hours? Dave Allenbach - Westerly out of Bond during morning peak hours we have a total 43 vehicles between 7:30 - 8:30 a.m. Chairman Yaraer - That's not many cars to be stopping everybody else going north and south along Rancho Santiago Blvd. Commissioner Fortier - It should be pointed out that installing STOP signs at locations where they don't meet the minimum warrants established by the State of California creates a situation where we would never be able to get traffic flowing efficiently. Commissioner Sciarra - I'm concerned with the minimum warrants based on traffic accidents. We have a history of two recorded accidents having occurred during a one-year period susceptible to correction by a 4-Way STOP; from what I hear there have been a number of near-misses that possibly could have occurred, maybe we should look at that too. If it's that dangerous then maybe we should look at something else that could be done. Chairman Yarrc,�er - If there is not further discussion by the Commissioners, I will re-open the public hearing to the audience for their final comments. Please keep these comments within 3 minutes as we have other items on today's agenda for consideration. Unidentified Member of the Audience - Every morning as I leave for work at EI Modena High School I often have to wait up to 15 minutes to get out and there have been several times I have almost been hit because I have to pull way out into the intersection to see to my right if there are any on-coming traffic. I'm usually making a left turn out of Bond Ave. but I can't see around the telephone pole, plus there is a large wall here as well. Larry Pore' - This is probably the biggest utility pole you have ever seen. Also, it has been my experience when dealing with the County, that since 3 6 legs of the intersection are within the City of Orange the County would go along with your findings. I spoke with the County of Orange Traffic Engineer because I was concerned with them performing a duplicate study. I'm looking at the potential for liability to the City and I think it's something we look at quite frequently in dealing with civil liability issues. I don't want the City to be exposed to unnecessary liability because we, the citizens of Orange and the Traffic Commission has exposed ourselves. If we bring our concerns to your attention and the City fails to act will this be held against the City if a citizen brings a civil suit? Ben Conner - A STOP sign means each and every car coming through the intersection would have to STOP, I would strongly recommend you install a traffic signal rather than a STOP sign. If there is a major concern with the ability to cross Rancho Santiago Blvd. from this location then perhaps some kind of a regulated crossing device could be installed. I think that would be more appropriate than a 4-Way STOP. Carolyn Caverly - I would like to reiterate my request for a fully dedicated traffic signal be installed at this intersection. The signal could be designed so that the primary traffic along Rancho Santiago would receive the priority of the green time over the Bond Ave. traffic and allow traffic to flow efficiently through the intersection. Chairman Yarger - Please don't take this wrong, but if you wish to request a signal for this location, I would recommend you go directly to the City Council. There is a long priority list of intersections waiting for signalization that have already qualified. I don't think most of our residents recognize that traffic signals now cost in excess of S 100,000 these days. Carolyn Caverl� - Human lives are valuable too. Chairman Yaraer - I know, but when you have a City that is cutting people's hours down now and closing City Hall one day a week to cut costs and that our whole nation is in a financial crisis right now and I'm sure that there are certain intersections that might be higher on the priority list than this location. I am going to close the public hearing and return the item to the Commissioners and staff for their final comments and a motion. Commissioner Sciarra - What is the speed limit on Rancho Santiago Blvd.? Dave Allenbach - Currently it is posted at 35 MPH. 7 Chairman Yarqer - I live in this area and in the morning and afternoon peak hours there is a bit of traffic, but you get away from the peak times and there is no traffic at all. I have very mixed emotions about stopping cars for no reason at all when there's only 43-45 cars in the morning exiting the area and yet I understand the residents problems when they don't have vision. Commissioner Lemina - The residents comments indicate they feel there is alot more traffic than staff's research. I have traveled this route on a daily basis and have never encountered any kind of a problem at the intersection, nor have I ever witnessed a near-miss or an accident at this location. Chairman Yaraer - I'd like staff to go out again and conduct additional turn counts and traffic counts. Maybe the best thing to do is delay this 30 days and obtain further data, maybe we can put someone out there and find out how long it takes to make a left turn out of Bond in the morning. If there is a problem then there has to be a solution somewhere. Chuck Glass - We did perform manual turn counts, you have heard some of the numbers. Based on the approach peak hour volumes you can pretty well estimate what the total ADT volumes are, it should be pointed out that on Rancho Santiago we estimate there are probably 7,800 vehicles per day. On Bond Ave. west of Rancho Santiago where you have an A.M. peak hour two-directional volume of a little more than 200 and a P.M. peak of 240 you can estimate the ADT is 2,500 to 3,000 west of the intersection. On the east side of Bond Ave. where the total A.M. volumes of 59 and P.M. peak of 76 cars you can pretty accurately estimate that the total 24- volumes on that street probably doesn't exceed 800 - 900. If you are suggesting we do additional studies of traffic gaps, they get pretty labor intensive and involved. My personal observations during the peak hour are that we are not going to find what is considered "excessive" gaps. Commissioner Hower - Could we get 24 hour approach counts by machine so we can see off-peak times are? Chuck Glass - We won't have enough time between this meeting and the November meeting, which was moved up due to the holiday which falls on our normal Commission date, to perform these studies and prepare the data for submission. It would be best to hold this for the January 13, 1993, meeting. Chairman Yaraer - Let's hold this for the January 13, 1993 meeting. s RECOMMENDATION: That we continue this request until the 1-13-93, CTC meeting. Also, let's perform the count on a normal weekday when school is in session and the residents have to work so we get an accurate view of traffic patterns. MOTION: B. Leming SECOND: F. Sciarra AYES: Unanimous C. Request for an amendment to the Permit Parking Ordinance making each permit area exclusive of one another. Traffic Engineering Division City of Orange Chairman Yarqer - There's not going to be anyone in the audience on this item, can staff give us a verbal report on this request. Chuck Glass - We are requesting that you review the existing permit parking areas to make each exclusive, so a permit for Area A would not be valid in any other permit parking neighborhood, such as B, C, D, etc. The primary staff concern is cost should we try to separate all these areas and the cost of administering the program both for the stickers, as well as staff time. I don't really know if there are any issues pro or con on the enforcement end. There is a draft ordinance attached which was prepared by the City Attorney's office which would do this. Another option would be to have the area which seems to be the basis for the request to be exclusive of itself and not change any of the other areas. Commissioner Sciarra - What brought this up in the first place? Chuck Glass - This request was initiated by the Traffic Engineering Division, through Bernie Dennis, who if I'm not mistaken received this directive from the City Manager's office. Phyllis Then - As you know, there are some residents from Area A who give alot of input to the City Council, and they are indicating that there are alot of cars from outside the community that are parking that have permits; and some of those people do live in E. Orange and attend Chapman University. When this was discovered by the members of the Area A neighborhood they decided that was not appropriate and therefore they are requesting that we look into this. Commissioner Sciarra - It's not flagrant is it? It's pretty isolated? 9 Phyllis Then - I don't think it could possibly be more than a dozen vehicles. However, that has potential to change as more parking permit programs are established throughout the city and then those people may visit other residents or have legitimate business in other parts of the city which also have parking permit programs. Chairman Yarqer - The way to resolve that is to no longer approve these programs. I feel, from seeing some of the figures that were presented to us on the cost of having individual decals printed for each of the areas, I am opposed to doing this due to the fact that if the City has to cut back employees hours and close one day a week to cut costs, then I don't think the city should be spending money on something of this nature at this time. Commissioner Lemina - I have to agree with you, at this time of a budget crisis, these costs of printing new decals doesn't make sense, unless these individual areas want to assume the costs themselves. To take money from the general funds at a time when we can't even provide full services to the entire city is wrong. Commissioner Hower - I agree, I feel there should be a fee attached to permit parking and at that time we could reconsider this action. Phyllis Then - We approached our City Manager with the request to have the permit parking program become self-supporting and thereby avoid these costs; our suggestion was flatly rejected by the City Manager. I would like to suggest that whatever your motion is, whether to approve or deny the request, we could send a letter to the City Council to reconsider our request to attach a fee to the permit parking program. You might want to include that in your recommendation. Chairman Yaraer - Would you draft a letter for me, as Chairman of the City Traffic Commission, in this regard. RECOMMENDATION: That the CTC, by Motion, DENY the expense for making new decals for the parking permit area, and that if the City Council so deems to let residents pay for these expenses then that would be a new item to consider. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: F. Sciarra AYES: Unanimous io D. Request to adopt by ordinance a new Speed Zone on Serrano Ave. between Loma St. and Orange Park Blvd. Orange Police Department - Traffic Bureau City of Orange Chairman Yarger - There's not going to be anyone in the audience on this item, can staff give us a verbal report on this request. Dave Allenbach - This section of Serrano was posted for 35 MPH, however, it was never adopted as part of the city's Speed Zone Ordinance. In order for OPD to enforce speed with radar we have to perform a speed zone survey, have it added to the speed zone ordinance. Results of the speed zone survey are that the 85°/a percentile is 45 MPH, the pace speed is 35- 45 MPH and the median speed is 39 MPH. The south side of Serrano Ave. is fully improved with curb, gutter, sidewalk and street lights; however, the north side at the present time is unimproved. In the future Serrano will continue eastward and connect with Weir Canyon Rd. in Anaheim Hills. The road is classified as a Secondary Arterial roadway; there will be signals installed at Loma/Serrano and at Yellowstone/Serrano in the very near future, as part of the roadway extension. Based on our survey, even as the road is posted at 35 MPH now, we feel that a more accurate posting would be 40 MPH. This is a comfortable speed for the motorist to drive, they will be able to drive it safely in our opinion, so we recommend the speed limit be raised to 40 MPH and the speed zone be adopted into the city speed zone ordinance. Commissioner Sciarra - Aren't they already driving it at 40 MPH on that street? Dave Allenbach - Yes they are. RECOMMENDATION: That the CTC, by Motion, APPROVE the request to raise the speed limit on this section of Serrano Ave. to 40 MPH; and that the speed zone study be adopted into the city speed zone ordinance. MOTION: J. Fortier SEC�ND: B. Leming AYES: Unamious 11 E. Review of speed limit on Jamboree Rd. from Canyon View Ave. to the south City limits. Traffic Engineering Division City of Orange Chairman Yarqer - There's not going to be anyone in the audience on this item, can staff give us a verbal report on this request. Dave Allenbach - Last month, if you remember, when we discussed this issue staff was directed to contact the City of Tustin and obtain information on how their speed zone was adopted, when it was adopted, and if they would consider raising their speed limit to 55 MPH. We have talked to staff from the City of Tustin by phone and they informed us they adopted their speed zone of 50 MPH on Tustin Ave. adjacent to the city boundary on 9-11-90, this was 3 months before the City Council approved ours and before the staff performed their speed zone survey. The City of Tustin's speed zone survey did indicate a rather 85th percentile at 57.2 MPH, however, the city felt that posting it for 55 MPH was only justified on a state highway and not on a city street even though this area happens to be of a rural nature right now. They cited other factors such as striped bike lines, a rather high amount of bicycle traffic in the area, a large number of large trucks, downgrades and other things that did contribute to the 50 MPH speed limit. We asked if they would consider raising the speed limit up to 55 MPH, and they replied that they would categorically oppose the idea. . Based on the results of this information and our own survey, we recommend that the speed limit on Jamboree Rd. between Canyon View Ave. and the south city limits remain at 50 MPH. We would not recommend raising the speed limit 5 MPH to have a 55 MPH between an existing 50 MPH and a 45 MPH area. We must consider the fact that this is a continuous section of roadway even though it goes into another jurisdiction. Commissioner Lemina - Right after reading the letter and the conversation between our Traffic Engineering Dept. and that of the City of Tustin, although it probably would make more sense to have 55 MPH, I think we would be in the same situation where you have people coming out of a 50 MPH posted area going into the City of Tustin where it's posted 50 MPH, and I'd like to see it consistent between the two cities. RECOMMENDATION: RETAIN the existing 50 MPH speed limit. MOTION: B. Leming SECOND: F. Sciarra � 12 FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COMMISSIONERS � Commissioner Hower - I can't accept 50 MPH for this section of Jamboree, � it is not consistent with the CVC provisions and I don't possible see how the City of Tustin can justify it on what they're saying. It's isn't justified in Tustin or Orange. Commissioner Leminq - Tustin is saying they are taking into consideration the bike lanes, the grades and also the types of large trucks on the roadway. Commissioner Hower - You have to go back to the CVC and its definition of a traffic and engineering survey. The highway and traffic and roadside conditions not readily apparent to the driver are the only downzoning excuses. Anything stated here and certainly the CVC does not state that its only applicable to state highways, and there isn't anything in this letter that is not readily apparent to motorists. Commissioner Leminq - Construction equipment traffic for the newly developing areas is something the motorist wouldn't expect to encounter. Commissioner Hower - That's all at controlled intersections by signals. Chairman Yarqer - At what speeds is the police issuing citations? Lt. Ed Tunstall - It's not a constant, excessive speed but they routinely write citations out there from 75 MPH and above; it's a high speed area. Chairman Yarger - Are they issuing the citations at that location where the roadway downgrades from the City of Tustin into Orange? Or are they leaving Orange going into the City of Tustin? Lt. Tunstall - I can't speak to that. Vice-Chairman Fortier - I'd like to call for the vote on the Motion that's on the floor. Chairman Yarger - Okay. The Motion was made to Retain the existing 50 MPH speed limit. MOTION: B. Leming SECOND: F. Sciarra AYES: F. Sciarra - D. Yarger - J. Fortier - B. Leming NOES: N. Hower Chuck Glass - Since this was a review of the speed limit and the CTC has voted not to change the speed limit, does the Commission want this item to go to the City Council? The review was done at the request of the CTC. Asst. City Attorney Bob Herrick - The CTC asked for the review, has voted not to recommend a change and therefore there is no obligation to send it to the City Council although you certainly would have that option. 13 Chuck Glass - We could send it as an item that the CTC was concerned, asked for a review, and after that review decided not to make any change to the existing posted speed limit and then make the recommendation to the City Council that they receive and file. , Chairman Yaraer - I'd like to see staff to call Tustin a couple more times and discuss with them the possibility of increasing the speed limit in their jurisdiction. They designed a nice highway and I'd like to see motorists be able to use it. IV. INFORMATION ITEM F. Summary of Brown Act and Conflicts of Interest Chuck Glass - You've had the item to read over. This was originally submitted to the City Planning Commission and Mr. Herrick and I decided we would go ahead and put it on your agenda for your information. If you wish to discuss it or if you have any questions you may wish to direct them to the City Council. Bob Herrick. Asst. City Attornex - The only thing I would add to the memo is that it does not cover the adjournment procedure, which is something we have found several of the Boards and Commissions in the city were not aware of, in that, if you were to adjourn to a special study session it does require that a 'NOTICE OF ADJOURNMENT' must be posted in the same way we would post the agenda, and in so doing any item that is continued to an adjourned meeting is automatically agendized by the posting of that 'Notice of Adjournment' so if for some reason you wanted to hold a special meeting to complete some item of business that had been discussed in a public hearing here and said it can't really wait a month, let's hold a special meeting in 2 weeks, and then adjourn to that, there is a procedure for you to do that and this memo didn't cover that, but it part of the Brown Act. Also, with respect to the conflicts of interest portion of the memo you may get some degree of indigestion from the real property rolls in talking about if the official's property is within 300 ft. then there is a presumptive disqualification unless the official can demonstrate that the decision will have no economic effect on the official's real property interest. I think the majority of the items this Commission hears would probably fall within that, , I wouldn't bee too terribly concerned about the 300 ft. radius for this Commission except in the case where you're dealing with the Main/Chapman/LaVeta EIR - a major project, that may have substantial impacts such as street widening, etc. but the posting of speed limits wouldn't have a economic effect. If you do have questions our office can answer them for you. 14 V. ORAL PRESENTATIONS Nothing reported from any member of the public, or any Traffic Commissioner. G. The next regular CTC meeting is scheduled for January 13, 1993. VI. ADJOURNMENT Discussion of all today's Agenda items before the City Traffic Commission being complete, and there being no further requests for action under Oral Presentations, it was moved to adjourn this session of the CTC to it's next regular meeting. MOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: B. Leming AYES: Unamious Respectfully submitted, ► l�,. �i1�---.� Phyllis Then Recording Secretary City Traffic Commission Traffic Engineering Division 15