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08-12-1998 - Minutes TC `i::>:.:i CITY OF ORANGE �.� Y� CITY TRAFFIC COMMISSION � � �-����-�,r�� Minutes of a Regular Meeting: August 12, 1998 �������s�������������s������������������� I. OPENING A. Flag Pledge B. Roll Call: Present - Commissioners: D. Yarger, J. Fortier, W. Poutsma, F. Sciarra Present - Staff: H. Bahadori, W. Winthers, D. Allenbach, C. Glass, Sgt. B. Green, P. Then C. Approval Of Minutes: RECOMMENDATION: APPROVE the CTC Minutes of June 10, 1998, as published by the Recording Secretary. MOTION: F. Sciarra SECOND: W. Poutsma AYES: Unanimous D. Accept resignation of Dorothy ")o" Gibson from the City Traffic Commission effective July 21, 1998. E. Items To Be Continued or Withdrawn None this meeting. II. CONSENT CALENDAR 1. Request to change the private street name "Koll Center Drive" to "Orange Center D ri ve". Michael ). Palladino Equity Office Properties Management 500 N. St. College Blvd., #1160 Orange, CA 92868 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. There was no discussion of this request. ACTION: Approve the request. MOTION: D. Yarger SECON D: J. Fortier AYES: Unanimous � Tape #CfC-98.06 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714) 744-5536 in this regard, some advance notice would be appreciated. Minutes of a Regular Meeting-City Traffic Commission - August 12, 1998 Page 2 II. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued) 2. Request for the installation of red curb markings for the driveways that service 1602/1440 E. Lincoln Ave. (Vons Center at Tustin/Lincoln). Charles E. Williams � s 2�459 N. Hearthside 4range CA 92865 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. Chairman Yarger opened the public hearing for the following discussion of this request: Fred Ramer, 3042 �heri, Orange - That area represents an entrance/exit to the Vons Shopping Center at Lincoln and Tustin and when exiting fihat driveway when there are 18 wheel trucks parked it creates a safety hazard as they block your view. ACTION; Approve the request and install 320 ft. of the curb frontage for "NO PARKING ANYTIME". 1vIOTION: D. Yarger SECOND: V1/. Poutsma AYES: Unanirnous 111. CONSIDERATION ITEMS 3. Request for fhe installation of speed humps on Shaffer St. :between Taft Ave. and Meats Ave. Anthony Dunn 1733 N. 5haffer St. Orange, CA 92865 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. There was no discussion on this item, ACTION: 1. Receive and File staff report. 2. Direct staff prepare and mai f a petition to the proponent for circulation within the neighborhood. MOT10N: D. Yarger SECOND: ). Fortier AYES: Unanimous , ��� Tape #CTG98.06 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714) 744-5536 in this regard,some advance notice wouid be appreciated. Minutes of a Regular Meeting-City Traffic Commission - August 12, 1998 Page 3 I11. CONSI DERATION ITEMS (Continued) 2. Request for the installation of speed humps on Townsend Ave. between Rosemere St. and Crossgate St. G reg & Mary Beth Marti n s 4147 E. Townsend Ave. ' Orange, CA 92867 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. There was no discussion on this item. ACTION: Deny the request. MOTION: ). Fortier SECOND: F. Sciarra AYES: Unanimous 3. Request for the removal of red curb markings in proximity to the driveway that services 520 \N. Walnut Ave. Debbie Rawitch National Cap Manufaeturers, Inc. . � 535 W. Walnut Ave. CJrange, CA 92868 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report, p/ease refer to your copy. Chairrnan Yarger o�ened the pu�bli� hearing for the following discussion of this � request: Sue PerQnteau, 520 UV. Walnut Ave. - Cflu(d not distinguish remarks.as the recording system does not pick up comments from the audience and the speaker did not c�me forv�rard to the speakers podium. Chairman Yarger indicated the speaker was in favor of the request. Chairrnan Yarger closed the public hearing and returned the item to the Cornmission for further discussion and a motion. �� ACTION; Deny the req uest. lv1QTION: F. Sciarra SECON D: ). Fortier AYES: Unanimous �� Tape #CTG98:06 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available #or your review. Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714) 744-5536 in this regard,some advance notice would be appreciated. Minutes of a Regular Meeting-City Traffic Commission - Au�ust 12, 1998 � Page 4 III. CONSIDERATION ITEMS (Continued) 4. Request for the installation of red curb markings on the west side of Nohl Canyon Rd. south of Nohl Ranch Rd. _ EUen Johnson > Orange Unified School District 726 W. Collins Ave. Orange CA 92867 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. There was no discussion from the public regarding this item. Commissioner Poutsma - I spoke with Mrs. Trix, Principal at that school and she said that with the addition of this painted curb it would really help her parking situation during the arrival and dismissal hours. ACTION: Approve the installation of 30 ft. of red curb markings in front of 2894 �Johl Canyon Rd. M�TION: J. Fortier SECC�ND: W. Poutsma AYES: Unanimous � IV. ADMINISTRATtVE REPOR?S 1. , Report on the feasibility of a City ordinance to prohibit parking on City parkways. Hamid 8ahad:ori, City Traffi� Engineer reported to the Cammission that in response to a request of the CTC a few months ago both Traffic Engineer, Police and the City Attorney's staff ha� reviewed parking restrictions within the city owned parkways. Staff have no objections to the proposed ordinance and the City Attprney's office has determined that this issue falls within the purview and jurisdiction of local governments and we are not pre-empted by local law. This proposed restriction could be a blanket restriction at all times applying to all locations, or ifi could have certain exemptions. One exemption could allow parking within the parkway only during street sweeping hours: The City Attorney's office objects to such an exemption as vehicles parking within � the city owned parkway areas diminish a motorists line of sight and therefore increased the city's liability exposure. Street sweeping operations is designed, within high density areas, with alternate weeks of sweeping. You are allowed to park on side of the street when the opposite side is swept, and the next week you switch. So parking problems in high density areas have been taken into consideration. ��� Tape #CTG98.06 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714) 744-5536 in this regard, some advance notice would be appreciated. Minutes of a Regular Meeting-City Traffic Commission - August 12, 1998 Page 5 There is no clear definition of a "parkway", in the Vehicle Code, it comes through our own Zoning Code. The intent of the ordinance is that any section of the public right-of- way between the curb line or the edge of pavement in case we don't have a curb line, any section of public right-of-way between edge of travel lane and the private ,boundary is restri�ted�frorn parking. If there is a sidewalk it is already restricted by the Vehicle Code, if ther� is no sidewalk the parking is restricted no matter whafi kind of area it is, if it is a grassy area, dirt shoulder, whatever, you cannot park there. That �s the intent of the ordinance that you cannot park �except on the pavement where it is allowed. There is no uniform City standard of what a parkway is, these standards have changed over thE years. Vehicle Code Secti�n 555 says that a sidewalk is "that portion of a highway other than the roadway set apart by curbs, barriers, markings or other delineation for pedestrian travel." � blanke� resolution of this nature has varied rami#ications that can no� be foreseen. That is why it has to ga before the City Council and have two readings prior to approval. There vvi11 be a lot of issues that will arise �t the Council hearing, some of those we can address such as the implementation of this restriction or the adverse impacts of such a restriction within the industrial area, Dep�nding on whom you ask maybe that's desirable, maybe we don't want people to park in that area. Other people may have a completely different apinion, then you gefi into distinctions and say you have the restriction in a residential area but not in the industriaVcommercially zoned areas, then it becomes very confusing and complicated and actually exposes the City to Iiability. � �egregating the applicability of such an ordinance between comm�rcia) and residential ar�as was also r�viewed. In the Old Towne district there are areas of mixed use. lt's going to be difficult to distinguish between the two uses, it's not clear cut. We must have some logic and r�a�on for adopting such a blank�t ordinance, if the r+eason is aesthetics and we acl�nowledge that in the ordinance I think it can be su:pported; but if the reason for the ordinance is traffic safety and improving sight distance then we cannot really distinguish between the two uses. The Police Dept. receives complaints on a weekly basis regarding veh�cles in the parkway i n both residential and commercial ly zoned areas, i�'s ai I over the city. It was determined that Traffic Engineering, the �ity Attorney and the Traffic Bureau of the Police Dept. will work together and develop alternatives, as well the pros and cons of each alternative and then return to the Commission either in September or October for review. � Tape #CTG98.06 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your reUiew. Please contact che Recording Secretary at(714) 744-5536 in this regard,some advance notice would be appreciated. Minutes of a Regular Meeting-City Traffic Commission - August 12, 1998 Page 6 V. ORAL PRESENTATIONS Sgt. Bob Green introduced our Interim Police Chief Andy Romero, and Lt. Art Romo to all members of the Traffic Commission. Y There were no other presentations either from the public or Commission. VI. AD)OURNMENT After discussion of today's Agenda items of the City Traffic Commission was conclud�ed, and as �here were no further r�equests for action �ander Oral Presentations, the �hairman adjourned this session of the City Traffic Commission at 4:15 p.m. The next regularly scheduled meeting of the City Traffic Commission will be Wednesday- September 9, 1998. Respectfully submitted, CITY OF ORANGE Phyllis Then Record i ng Secretary Traffic Engineering Division CITY OF ORANGE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC 1NORKS TRAFFIC ENGINEERIN�DIVISION 300 E.GHAPMAN AVE. ORANGE CA 92866 RH: (714) 744-5536 �Ax: (714) 744-6961 �1 MINUTES [DISK#20/THENP] � Tape #CTC-98.06 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. Please contact the Recording Secretary at(714) 744-5536 in this regard,some advance notice would be appreciated.