11-08-2000 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
for Wednesday, November 8, 2000
Committee Members Present: Alice Angus
Leonard Filner
Susan Secoy (Chair)
Joe Woollett (Vice-Chair)
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Committee Member Absent: Mark Paone
Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 6:30 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 PM
REVIEW OF MINUTES:
MOTION was made by Joe Woollett to approve the September 13, 2000 minutes with the
following corrections:
DRC No. 3577 -Barbara Rose page 7 paragraph 5, sentence 2 amended as follows:
The base color of the building should continue through the recess and steppirr~ to stop at the
window frame where there is a change of materials.
DRC No. 3578 -Clark Hills page 8, paragraph 4, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Luis Caballero (487 S. Grand) is the adjacent property owner to the south.
Sentence 10 amended as follows:
He die objects to the east building elevation because it is not consistent with anything along the
alley.
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Paragraph 6, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Susan Frey (405 S. Grand) resides at the corner of La Veta Avenue and Grand Street.
Paragraph 8, sentence 2 amended as follows:
She feels that there should be more of a study, on this block or any similar blocks, to see if it
can handle the additional number of units that it already #ave has.
Paragraph 13, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Susan Secoy agreed with Mr. Woollett's comments particularly with the perception of the
project from the alley.
SECOND:Susan Secoy
AYES:Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Mark Paone
ABSTAINED:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION was made by Joe Woollett to approve the October 4, 2000 minutes with the following
corrections:
DRC No 3583 - METROCOM/WF page 3 paragraph 6, sentence 1: amended as follows:
Ms. Novak asked if the primary ee~eerrts concern is the visual impact from the freeway?
DRC No 3591 - WEBLINK WIRELESS page 7, condition 3 amended as follows:
3. New signage shall be reviewed and approved by City staff for consistency with existing
signage already on the building, otherwise, any proposals that are not within these parameters
shall be ~"m~++^~' "^^'~ re-submitted to the DRC for review.
SECOND:Susan Secoy
AYES:Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Mark Paone
ABSTAINED:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner
MOTION CARRIED
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MOTION was made by Joe Woollett to approve the October 18, 2000 minutes with the following
corrections:
DRC No. 3558 - HORTUS NURSERY page 2, paragraph 7, sentence 4 amended as follows:
Perhaps some type of a strong "green" breaking point (i.e. hedge) can be utilized to help soften
the eeNt~s+ee transition between the different architectural styles.
DRC No 3587 - VALARE TARDIF page 7 paragraph 3, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Robert Imboden had spe4~e spoken to Planning ~~ierr Commissioner Smith and was told
that there are no established methods for proper documentation.
Page 8 condition 8, sentence 1 amended as follows:
8. The applicants are applauded in the effort to save and relocate the existing 1915 Craftsman
Bungalow ~k into the historic district.
Sentence 2 amended as follows:
The DRC strongly tree urges the City's processing of this application in a timely manner
respectively to the December 31, 2000 deadline set by the property owner at 1103 W.
Chapman Avenue.
SECOND:Susan Secoy
AYES:Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Mark Paone
ABSTAINED:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner
MOTION CARRIED
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DRC No. 3383 -DAN ARGUELLO
Final plans for an approved residential addition in Old Towne
604 E. Almond Avenue (Non-Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Final Determination
Continued from 6/7/00 & 6/20/00 meetings)
The project was presented by Mr. Lam Nguyen with DLA Design -Construction. He was hired
as the new project designer by the owner Mr. Dan Arguello. The plans have been re-drawn
more accurately with Craftsman Bungalow detailing through out. Also included are colored
building elevations with material samples and color palette.
Joe Woollett asked what is the purpose of applying varnish on the exterior cedar shingles? He
suggest that vanish not be used because cedar typically weathers very well without any type of
finishing.
Susan Secoy asked if new or old bricks would be used for the chimney? (New, in a light color)
She also commended the applicant for using real river rocks rather than cultured stones.
MOTION was made by Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted.
The approval is based on the finding that the proposed work conforms to the standards and
design criteria referenced and recommended by the Design Review Committee. The proposed
work complies with the Secretary of the Interior's Standards and Guidelines. The proposed
work is compatible with, and therefore will not adversely affect the use and design of existing
buildings within Old Towne.
SECOND:Joe Woollett
AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Mark Paone
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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2. DRC No. 3513 - WIENERSCHNITZEL
New freestanding sign for adrive-thru restaurant
108 W. Lincoln Avenue
DRC Action: Final Determination
Approved as Consent Item)
MOTION was made by Susan Secoy to approve the project with the following recommendation:
1. Simplify the address by deleting the verbiage "Lincoln" so that it reads "108 W." to help
reduce clutter.
SECOND:Joe Woollett
AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Mark Paone
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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3. DRC No. 3575 -EXTENDED STAY AMERICA
Landscape plans for a new 4-story, 124 room hotel at Stadium Promenade
North side of Katella Avenue, east of Santa Ana River
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by Don Fowler -Construction Manager, and James Bazinet -
Landscape Architect. This is a review of the landscaping plans prior to submittal to proposed
landscaping plans have been coordinated with the parking lot lighting plans to avoid potential
conflicts. The selected planting materials would match and/or compliment the existing
landscaping in the parking lot.
Leonard Filner raised concerns with the use of Eucalyptus Citriodora (Lemon Scented Gum), as
this tree has become susceptible to insect problems (Lerp Psyllid).
MOTION was made by Leonard Filner to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. Replace all Eucalyptus Citriodora (Lemon Scented Gum) with Tristania Conferta (Brisbane
Box) of equal (24 inch box) size.
2. Submit final landscape and irrigation plans to Community Services Department for approval.
Final plans to include City required inspection notes)
SECOND: Alice Angus
AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mark Paone
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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4. DRC No. 3594 -CORNING DEVELOPMENT
Remodeling of an existing freestanding sign for a retail shopping center
940 N. Tustin Street
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by Rick Adler with Rainbow Sign Service. The proposed remodeling
includes adding new pole covers on each side, and the individual tenant panels would be
replaced by new aluminum panels with an acrylic push-through lettering. The sign lettering
would be internally illuminated.
MOTION was made by Susan Secoy to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. Provide street address number underneath the name of the center per elevation plan.
2. Individual tenant panel background to be white color.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mark Paone
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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5. DRC No. 3596 -TACO BELL
New restaurant with drive-thru lane
490 N. Tustin Street
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by Baray Karim with Fred Cook Architects. The proposal is to
demolish the existing restaurant and construct a new Taco Bell restaurant with improved on-site
circulation and vehicle stacking for the drive-through operation. The submittal package includes
exterior finish material sample and color palette. The architecture is contemporary in style
similar to the newly constructed Taco Bell restaurant on South Main Street.
Leonard Filner expressed concern with the removal of 3 existing trees (Ficus) on site. New
larger box size (36") trees should be added for mitigation. Also, the Palm trees should be
specified in brown trunk height (8ft. min.) rather than 24 inch box size as proposed.
MOTION was made by Leonard Filner to recommend approval of the project to the Planning
Commission with the following conditions:
1. Queen Palms shall be upgraded from 24 inch box size to 8 ft. minimum brown trunk height.
2. Add 3 trees minimum 36 inch box size (any type of owner's choice) to mitigate the removal
of the 3 existing trees on site.
3. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final landscape and irrigation plans to
Community Services Department for approval. (Final plans to include City required
inspection notes)
SECOND:Susan Secoy
AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
ABSENT:Mark Paone
NOES:None
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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