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07-25-2001 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES for Wednesday, July 25, 2001 Committee Members Present: Alice Angus Leonard Filner (Vice Chair) Mark Paone Susan Secoy Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator Dave Statton, Landscape Coordinator Committee Member Absent: Joe Woollett (Chair) Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M. The committee met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at approximately 8:05 p.m. Regular Session - 5:30 PM REVIEW OF MINUTES: A motion was made by Committee Member Mark Paone to approve the June 6, 2001 minutes with the following corrections: DRC #3528 -Reza Zolfaghari, page 6, paragraph 4, sentence 3 amended as follows: They are requesting fer a conceptual approval from the DRC so that the landscape architect can proceed with making the necessary revisions to the landscape plans to reflect the grading changes. DRC #3607 -George Adams, page 5, paragraph 3, sentence 2 amended as follows: He felt that the use of these palm trees will not block anyone's view. SECOND:Leonard Filner AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy NOES:None ABSENT:Joe Woollett ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 25, 2001 Page 2 REVIEW OF MINUTES: (Continued A motion was made by Committee Member Leonard Filner to approve the June 20, 2001 minutes with the following corrections: DRC #3628 - Cingular Wireless, paragraph 5, sentence 1 amended as follows: Committee Member Leonard Filner noticed that the e~+pr~e~rts equipment are is located on the ground at the end of the parking lot area. SECOND:Alice Angus AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner NOES:None ABSENT:Joe Woollett ABSTAINED:Mark Paone, Susan Secoy MOTION CARRIED The review and approval of the July 11, 2001 minutes was deferred until the August 8, 2001 meeting. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 25, 2001 Page 3 DRC No. 3582 - REZA ZOLFAGHARI Final landscape plans for a new custom residence at Prospect Hills. 6127 E. Cliffway Drive Staff Contact: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner DRC Action: Final Determination Approved as Consent Item) MOTION was made by Committee Member Mark Paone to approve the project as submitted. SECOND:Susan Secoy AYES:Alice Angus, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy NOES:None ABSENT:Joe Woollett ABSTAINED:Leonard Filner MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 25, 2001 Page 4 2. DRC No. 3628 -MATRIX SERVICE Final landscape plans for a new 52,400 sq. ft. industrial facility consisting of a 20,000 sq. ft. office building and a 32,400 sq. ft. manufacturing building. 500 W. Collins Avenue Staff Contact: Jay Eastman, Assistant Planner DRC Action: Final Determination Ralph Hastings, Project Architect, presented the landscaping plans as required as a condition of approval by the DRC on April 18, 2001. A complete set of site, floor, and building elevation plans have also been submitted because some minor changes have been made after the Planning Commission's approval of the project. These changes were also reviewed by the Staff Review Committee (SRC), and were found to be in substantial conformance to the previously approved plans. The meeting was opened for public comments: (None) MOTION was made by Committee Member Mark Paone to approve the project subject to the following conditions: 1. Add expansion joints along east and west elevations of Building A). 2. Interior concrete wall to match Building A. (Including expansion joints and paint color) 3. Replace hydro-seed turf with Marathon II Sod. 4. Submit final landscape plans to Community Services Department for approval. (Final plans to include City required inspection notes). SECOND: Alice Angus AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy NOES: None ABSENT: Joe Woollett ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 25, 2001 Page 5 3. DRC No. 3634 - ST. JOHN'S LUTHERAN CHURCH Review of a new 2-story, 55,500 sq. ft. classroom/fellowship building, expansion of the existing preschool building, and new signage program as part of a larger proposed Master Plan for the Saint John's Lutheran Church and School Campus. Site is located within the Old Towne Historic District, bounded by Shaffer Street on the east, Center Street on the west, Almond Avenue on the south, and Chapman Avenue on the north. Staff Contact: Anna Pehoushek, Senior Planner DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission Darrel Hebenstreit with Architects Orange presented the project. The plans have been revised to address the comments of the DRC from the previous meeting on July 11, 2001. The project has been scheduled for public hearing with the Planning Commission on August 6, 2001. The revisions pertain to the Chapman Classroom Building, Preschool Building, and Signage Program. The landscape plans will be developed and submitted to the DRC at a later date. Chapman Classroom Building Metal eyebrow canopies have been added over some of the window openings, and a new trellis element has been added along the south elevation to create shade and shadow, and to add interest to the building. More reveals were also incorporated for better articulation. Preschool Building The gable roof has been extended back the full length of the building. Double columns are used at the trellis structure for better cohesiveness with the rest of the campus. More architectural details have also been added to make the building appear more residential in character. Signage Program The monument signs have been relocated and reduced in size to achieve better proportions along the street elevation. The design has been simplified by deleting the sphere element from the columns. The sign cabinet is made of metal, and the base is made with two-tone bricks to match the building. The signs are externally illuminated with ground mounted incandescent lighting. The project was opened for public comments: Janet Crenshaw (464 N. Shaffer Street) likes the addition of eyebrow canopies over the windows, but does not like the proposed signage as it is still too big. Committee Member Susan Secoy commended the project architect for responding very well to the DRC's comments. She would still like to see more detail provided for the proposed signage. Committee Member Mark Paone appreciate the applicant's effort in addressing the DRC's concerns and making further refinements to the project. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 25, 2001 Page 6 3. DRC No. 3634 - ST. JOHN'S LUTHERAN CHURCH (Continued) MOTION was made by Committee Member Mark Paone to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission as follows: 1. The revisions to the south and west elevations of the Chapman classroom building are approved as submitted. 2. The revisions to the preschool building are approved as submitted. 3. Monument sign shall be provided with raised lettering. 4. Submit landscape plans to Design Review Committee for review and approval. The recommendation for approval is based on the finding that the proposed work conforms to the standards and design criteria referenced and recommended by the Design Review Committee. The proposed work complies with the Secretary of the Interior's Standards and Guidelines. The proposed work is compatible with, and therefore will not adversely affect the use and design of existing buildings within Old Towne. SECOND:Susan Secoy AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy NOES:None ABSENT:Joe Woollett ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 25, 2001 Page 7 4. DRC No. 3644 - ENRIQUE VALERA Revisions to an addition of two bedrooms at the rear of an existing single story residence in Old Towne. 181 S. Batavia Street (Non-Contributing) DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by the property owner Enrique Valera and Max Robles. Committee Member Mark Paone appreciates the applicant's effort The project was opened for public comments: Robert Imboden, representing Old Towne Preservation Association, commented that the plans show the front porch post bases to be higher, than they actually exists. Enrique Valera stated that the actual base height is approximately 12 inches high. He will make changes to the plan to accurately show this. Committee Member Susan Secoy asked if the applicant has submitted exterior finish siding material and color samples. Enrique Valera explained that the siding is made of wood, painted to match the existing house. MOTION was made by Committee Member Leonard Filner to approve the project with the following conditions: 1. Submit exterior finish siding material and color sample to City Historic Preservation staff member for approval. 2. Front porch post to remain, as it exists. The approval is based on the finding that the proposed work conforms to the standards and design criteria referenced and recommended by the Design Review Committee. The proposed work complies with the Secretary of the Interior's Standards and Guidelines. The proposed work is compatible with, and therefore will not adversely affect the use and design of existing buildings within Old Towne. SECOND:Susan Secoy AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner Mark Paone, Susan Secoy NOES:None ABSENT:Joe Woollett ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 25, 2001 Page 8 5. DRC No. 3646 -PARADISE FOUNTAINS Expansion of an existing outdoors retail pottery and ceramic yard. 232 E. Katella Avenue DRC Action: Final Determination Lisa Baeza, owner of the business, presented the project. The proposal is to expand an existing outdoor pottery and ceramic sales business by developing a vacant portion of site to the east. The proposal includes the location of a small (144 sq.ft.) storage shed, trash enclosure, parking lot striping, new block wall, landscaping, and a new freestanding sign. The project was opened for public comments: Dick Hohrein (245 E. Hoover Avenue) lives directly behind the business, and prefers not to have the trees along the rear. The proposed Eucalyptus trees would become too tall and messy. Perhaps some type of tall shrub would work better. Also he would like to see the storage shed painted a different color (earth tone) to be more compatible with the residential neighborhood. Committee Member Mark Paone agreed that the applicant should consider an alternative paint color for the storage shed's color to be more compatible with the surrounding area. Committee Member Leonard Filner felt that the landscaping is rather sparse, and that the submitted plans lacked information. More detail is needed as to the size, spacing and species of the planting material used for this project. Committee Member Mark Paone suggested increasing the landscape area by rearranging two the parking stalls. This area can also be used as a fountain display. Committee Member Susan Secoy also noted that more information is also needed for the proposed freestanding sign in terms of color, letter size, type, and spacing. MOTION was made by Committee Member Mark Paone to continue the project, based on the above discussion. SECOND:Alice Angus AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy NOES:None ABSENT:Joe Woollett ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 25, 2001 Page 9 6. DRC No. 3651 - LEROY ALLEN New single story residence with a new detached garage, and relocation and modification of an existing detached garage as part of a proposed lot split in Old Towne. Northwest corner of Maple Avenue and Harwood Street) 633 E. Maple Avenue (Contributing Structure) Staff Contact: Daniel Ryan, Senior Planner -Historic Preservation DRC Action: Final Determination Jack McGee, Consultant, and Richard Anderson, Architect presented the project. The plans have been revised to show that the siding where the modules are joined is applied in a staggered method so that the joint cannot be seen. The Simpson ties are applied flush at the foundation so that it would not interfere with siding application. The plan shows a concrete porch base, but the owner is requesting the use of river rocks instead. The roofs of both garages have been modified to include gables at both ends. An Administrative Adjustment Permit has been applied for allow for the location of the garages within the required yard setbacks. Exterior finish material and color samples are also submitted. The meeting was opened for public comments: Robert Imboden, representing Old Towne Preservation Association (OTPA), asked what is the width of the reveal on the siding, and what is the material of the caps used for porch post bases. Richard Anderson stated that the siding would have afour-inch reveal, and the porch base caps are made of wood. Committee Member Mark Paone raised concerns with the appropriateness of using the proposed river rock material at the porch post bases. Committee Member Susan Secoy stated that it would not be her personal preference to use a cultured river rock porch post base. However, since this is a brand new structure (i.e. non- contributing), and that it fits within the context of Old Towne and it is sympathetic to the existing structure on site, she would not condition the project against the owner's preference. Committee Member Leonard Filner is of the opinion that both options work, and that he does not have a particular preference for either one. He agrees that since this is anon-contributing structure and that it is found elsewhere in Old Towne, that he does not have a problem with the proposed used of the cultured river rocks. Committee Member Alice Angus also agreed that the use of river rock for anon-contributing structure would not detract from the Old Towne District. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 25, 2001 Page 10 6. DRC No. 3651 - LEROY ALLEN (Continued) MOTION was made Committee Member Susan Secoy to approve the project with the following conditions: 1. Exterior siding to have afour-inch exposure. (Either smooth or open-grain finishes are acceptable) 2. The option of using river rocks at the front porch column base is approved. The approval is based on the finding that the proposed work conforms to the standards and design criteria referenced and recommended by the Design Review Committee. The proposed work complies with the Secretary of the Interior's Standards and Guidelines. The proposed work is compatible with, and therefore will not adversely affect the use and design of existing buildings within Old Towne. SECOND:Mark Paone AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, NOES:None ABSENT:Joe Woollett ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for July 25, 2001 Page 11 7. DRC No. 3656 -ORANGE VILLA SHOPPING CENTER New 1,800 sq. ft. addition for an existing retail shopping center 2000 N. Tustin Street Staff Contact: Mario Chavez-Marquez DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by owner Craig Jones and James Dietz -Architects Orange. The proposal is to construct a 1,800 sq.ft. addition connecting two existing buildings to create a larger 19,012 sq.ft. tenant space for a new retail tenant (Beverages & More) at the recently remodeled Orange Villa Shopping Center. The project was opened for public comments: (None) Committee Member Mark Paone raised concerns with the view of the building's backside from northbound Tustin Street. The rear of the building consist of many different materials and colors that should be tied together better. Perhaps painting the entire backside of the building with the same color scheme would help to achieve more cohesiveness. MOTION was made Committee Member Mark Paone to approve the project with the following conditions: 1. Paint back side of the building, including all exposed brickwork, to match the existing. 2. Staff to verify that the building addition is at, or above, the opening on the existing building. SECOND: Susan Secoy AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, NOES: None ABSENT: Joe Woollett ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED DRC 07-25-01 Minutes