07-19-2000 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
for Wednesday, July 19, 2000
Committee Members Present: Linda Boone
Leonard Filner (Vice Chair)
Mark Paone
Susan Secoy (Chair)
Joe Woollett
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Committee Member Absent: None
Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 8:00 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 PM
REVIEW OF MINUTES:
MOTION was made by Susan Secoy to approve the June 21, 2000 minutes as submitted.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: Linda Boone, Mark Paone, Joe Woollett
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION was made by Susan Secoy to approve the July 5, 2000 minutes as submitted.
SECOND:Leonard Filner
AYES:Linda Boone, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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DRC No. 3516 -KEN ARTHUR
Final review of an approved 2-story second unit constructed over a garage
133 N. Shaffer Street (Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Final Determination
Applicant not present)
MOTION by Mark Paone to continue the project
SECOND:Susan Secoy
AYES:Linda Boone, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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2. DRC No. 3517 - PATRICIA RICCI
Final review of an approved replacement residential garage and patio cover
618 E. Culver Street (Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Final Determination
Approved as consent item)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted.
The approval is based on the finding that the proposed work conforms with the standards and
design criteria referenced and recommended by the Design Review Committee. The proposed
work complies with the Secretary of the Interior's Standards and Guidelines. The proposed
work is compatible with, and therefore will not adversely affect the use and design of existing
buildings within Old Towne.
SECOND:Joe Woollett
AYES:Linda Boone, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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3. DRC No. 3532 -ORANGE ROTARY SENIOR APARTMENTS
New 5 unit senior housing project in Old Towne
North side of La Veta Avenue between Olive Street and Lemon Street
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Continued from June 21, 2000 meeting.)
The revised plans were presented by Richard Hanson, Warren Parchan and Eunice Bobert.
The revisions include the addition of enhanced stamped concrete paving at the driveway
entrances, and new elevation plans with a modified porch entrance for the middle building.
Landscape revisions include the use of two matching trees (Lagerstroemia) in front of the
middle building to create symmetry. Exterior lighting consists of wall mounted fixtures along the
driveway side of the building. A specific lighting fixture design has not yet been selected.
Joe Woollett asked what type of window is being used for this project?
Richard Hanson stated that these are vinyl casement windows.
Susan Secoy opened the meeting for public comments: (None)
Susan Secoy expressed concern with the large expanse of blank wall area at the front entrance
of the middle building.
Mark Paone agreed and suggested perhaps the two columns can be pulled-in a bit to help
improve the proportions.
Richard Hanson replied rather than shifting the columns closer together, it would be more
appropriate to add design elements such as a pair of period porch light fixtures on each side of
the entry door to help fill the void.
Mark Paone asked if the doors on the water heater enclosure can be made to look nicer?
Warren Parchan replied that raised panel doors could be used to improve its appearance.
MOTION by Mark Paone to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission
with the following conditions:
1. Provide raised panel doors at water heater enclosures.
2. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit exterior lighting plans (including porch light
fixture detail) to DRC for approval. Lighting plans to be coordinated with landscape plans to
avoid potential conflicts.
3. Submit final landscape plans to Community Services Department for approval. Final plans
to include City required inspection notes.
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3. DRC No. 3532 -ORANGE ROTARY SENIOR APARTMENTS (Continued)
The recommendation for approval is based on the finding that the proposed work conforms with
the standards and design criteria referenced and recommended by the Design Review
Committee. The proposed work complies with the Secretary of the Interior's Standards and
Guidelines. The proposed work is compatible with, and therefore will not adversely affect the
use and design of existing buildings within Old Towne.
SECOND:Leonard Filner
AYES:Linda Boone, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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4. DRC No. 3557 - MOHAMMAD ABDOLLAHEH
New custom single family residence
6131 E. Cliffway Drive
DRC Action: Final Determination
Continued from 6/21/00 meeting)
The revised plans were presented by the project architect Neil Hagigat, and landscape architect
Kathryn Cerra. The project has decreased in size by approximately 3,000 sq.ft. and the
retaining walls have been substantially reduced. The revised plans show astepped-down
design that works better with the sloped topography. They have met with both the adjoining
owner Mr. Richard Scuito, and Bob Bennyhoff with the Orange Park Acres Association (OPA).
They have also met with the Fire Department to verify extending the "Wet Zone" out further for
compliance with fuel modification requirements. Anew color rendering and superimposed
photographs were included. A revised conceptual landscape plan was also presented.
The meeting was opened to the public.
Bob Bennyhoff, speaking on behalf of the Orange Park Acres Association, confirmed that he
has reviewed the revised plans and felt that they are a considerable improvement over the
previous. He understands that this particular site is probably the most difficult to develop within
the "Prospect Hills" area, due to its configuration in relation to the slope. He thanked the
architect for his efforts and willingness to go through the review process. His only request is
that appropriate landscaping be provided to help soften the view from down slope below, while
still keeping in compliance with Fire Department regulations.
Susan Secoy stated that the revised project is a much more sensible approach to the site.
Joe Woollett agreed and stated that applicants have done a good job integrating the project and
working with the slope.
Mark Paone commended the architect for his cooperation, and for doing a good job in being
responsive to the neighboring community.
MOTION by Mark Paone to approve the building elevations, subject to the following conditions:
1. Submit final landscape plans to DRC for approval. Final plans to be reviewed by the Fire
Department for fuel modification requirements. Final plans to include all zones (A,B,C & D).
SECOND:Susan Secoy
AYES:Linda Boone, Leonard
NOES:None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAINED:None
Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
MOTION CARRIED
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5. DRC No. 3568 -RALPH & RENEE SANDOVAL
Two story addition to an existing residence in Old Towne
703 E. Sycamore Avenue (Non-Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by the owner Ralph Sandoval, and his architect Gregory Villegas.
The proposal is to add approximately 1,500 sq.ft. of building area onto an existing 900 sq.ft.
single story residence. The existing residence is a post-war design that is not listed as a
contributing structure in the Old Towne Historic District. The new addition would increase the
F.A.R. to .38, which is still well below the maximum .60 allowed by code. Also proposed is the
addition of an open porch at he front corner of the house.
Susan Secoy opened the meeting to the public:
Robert Imboden asked if the new porch is being built at grade level?
Gregory Villegas replied yes, the porch would be constructed on a concrete slab at grade level,
in order to maintain proper headroom clearance.
Susan Secoy did not have any problems with the two-story addition and the way its been
designed. The architect has done a creative job so far, and she supports the direction of the
project. There is concern, however, with the consistency of the architectural detailing being
used for the project. Design elements such as the tapered columns, wrought iron work on the
balcony and garden wall, roof eave treatment, etc. are all from different distinguished
architectural styles, which collectively may not go together well. Further study is needed to
improve consistency.
Mark Paone added that the architect should also take a closer look at the return of the new
garden wall, at where it attaches to and connects with the house.
MOTION by Mark Paone to continue the project per the above discussion
SECOND:Joe Woollett
AYES:Linda Boone, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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6. DRC No. 3570 -TACO BELL
New restaurant building at the Target shopping center complex
2233 N. Tustin Street
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by Fred Cook and Baray Karim from Fred Cook Architects. The
proposal is to demolish an existing bank building (former First Fidelity Bank), and replace it with
a new ±4,700 sq.ft. building for two restaurant tenants with a drive thru lane. The building
design has a contemporary theme that fits in well with the existing development along Tustin
Street. The Staff Review Committee (SRC) has reviewed this project earlier today for code
compliance, and has requested that certain site plan revisions be made to shift the building
approximately 6 to 8 feet to the east.
Susan Secoy stated that although the project's massing and color schemes are very well done,
she is concerned with the revisions that are required by the SRC, and how these changes
would affect the project. Another concern would be the type of vertical reveals being used for
the project. The Taco Bell restaurant at Main Street and La Veta Avenue utilized a simple
expansion joint that seemed to be lost with the building because it did not have sufficient
contrast to actually read as a reveal.
Fred Cook replied the changes required by SRC are relatively minor, and should not affect the
massing of the building in any way. As for the reveals, a wider reveal (1" to 1'/2") can be used
to achieve more definition.
Mark Paone asked if the building would be finished with smooth textured stucco? Also, is the
glazing actually green in color?
Fred Cook replied that it is a light sand floated finish, and the glazing is green tinted glass
because it provides good ultraviolet reduction and still allows for clear visibility into the building.
Leonard Filner commented that the tree selection for the outdoor courtyard dining area does
not provide adequate shading. Suggest changing to a tree that has a larger canopy.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project with the following conditions:
1. Submit revised site plan as required by the SRC for code compliance.
2. Submit exterior finish material sample to include the following:
Building reveal detail
Green tinted glass
Sand floated stucco finish
3. Submit plan of outdoor patio dining area to include seating layout, landscape/hardscape.
SECOND:Mark Paone
AYES:Linda Boone,
NOES:None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
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7. DRC No. 3573 -REORGANIZED CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS
Remodeling of an existing church facility
393 S. Tustin Street
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by the project architect Jim Corcoran. The proposed remodeling
includes new roofing, re-siding the exterior with horizontal "Hardi Plank" siding, adding a ledge
stone base, structural seismic retrofit, upgrade of disabled access, etc. The landscaping has
already been installed as part of the construction of the new healthcare facility at the rear.
Joe Woollett stated that the refurbished church will make a big difference for that area
MOTION by Mark Paone to approve the project with the following conditions:
Submit final landscape and irrigation plans to Community Services Department for approval.
Final plans to include City required inspection notes.
SECOND:Joe Woollett
AYES:Linda Boone, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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8. DRC No. 3574 - YORBA STORAGE
Landscape and perimeter fencing plan for a new self storage facility
North side of Chapman Avenue and east of Santiago Creek behind Chapman Medical
Center
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by Barry Cottle and Bob Mickelson. The proposal is to establish a
new self-storage facility located on vacant land adjacent to Santiago Creek behind Chapman
Medical Center. The facility consists of open areas for R.V. and/or boat storage, and cargo
type container units for enclosed storage. This is a review of the conceptual landscape and
perimeter fencing plans prior to the scheduled public hearing with the Planning Commission on
August 7, 2000.
Mark Paone asked if the containers are 8% ft. high, why the perimeter fence is only 6 ft. high.
Barry Cottle replied that the zoning code allows for only a 6 ft. high fence maximum without
having to apply for variance.
Bob Mickelson stated there are also considerations with the added cost of engineering involved
for an 8 ft. wall.
Leonard Filner asked if the applicants would consider the concept of selecting planting
materials that are more riparian and natural to the existing creek bed, so that it would not
appear so manufactured? Perhaps something that is less formal in nature?
Bob Mickelson replied that there are existing trees along the creek bed that will help screen
most of this area, and the Bougainvillea was chosen because its thorny nature provides for
added security.
Mark Paone suggested that a condition be added to require that in the event the existing
landscaping and/or block walls are removed or destroyed from along the south edge of the
property, that the developer shall be responsible for its replacement.
Susan Secoy asked what type of exterior lighting is being provided for this facility.
Barry Cottle stated that it would some type of fixture mounted on the containers shining
downwards to avoid any spillage onto adjacent properties.
MOTION by Mark Paone to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission
with the following conditions:
1. Submit final landscape plans to DRC for review and approval.
2. Substitute Nandina Domestics (Heavenly Bamboo) with Syzygium Paniculata (Brush
Cherry) along creek edge.
3. Substitute Star Jasmine with Annual Colors.
4. Recommend that the applicant apply for a variance to allow for an increase in fence/wall
height up to the same height (8'/z ft.) as the storage containers.
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8. DRC No. 3574 - YORBA STORAGE (Continued)
5. Recommend that a condition be added to the project to require that in the event the existing
landscaping and/or block walls are removed or destroyed along the south and east edge of
the property, that the developer shall be responsible for its replacement with new
landscaping and/or wall consistent with the rest of the project.
SECOND:Leonard Filner
AYES:Linda Boone, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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