06-21-2000 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
for Wednesday, June 21, 2000
Committee Members Present: Leonard Filner (Vice Chair)
Vern Jones*
Susan Secoy (Chair)
Replaced Linda Boone for this meeting)
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Committee Member Absent: Linda Boone
Mark Paone
Joe Woollett
Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 7:30 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 PM
REVIEW OF MINUTES:
The review and approval of the June 7, 2000 minutes was deferred to the July 7, 2000 meeting.
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DRC No. 3383 -DAN ARGUELLO
Final review for an approved residential addition within the Old Towne District
604 E. Almond Avenue (Non-contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Final Determination
Continued from June 7, 2000 Meeting)
Applicant requested for continuance prior to start of meeting)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project.
SECOND: Vern Jones
AYES: Leonard Filner, Vern Jones, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: Linda Boone, Mark Paone, Joe Woollett
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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2. DRC No. 3456 - PHILLIP DOYON
Conversion of an existing commercial building (former residence) to a bed & breakfast
224 N. Glassell Street (Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Continued from August 11, 1999 meeting)
Applicant requested for continuance prior to start of meeting)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project.
SECOND:Leonard Filner
AYES:Leonard Filner, Vern Jones, Susan Secoy
NOES:None
ABSENT:Linda Boone, Mark Paone, Joe Woollett
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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3. DRC No. 3532 -ORANGE ROTARY SENIOR APARTMENTS
New 5 unit senior housing project in Old Towne
North side of La Veta Avenue between Olive Street and Lemon Street
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Continued from April 19, 2000 and May 17, 2000 meetings.
The project was presented by Warren Parchan with the Rotary Club of Orange, the project
architect Richard Hanson, Eunice Bobert with Orange Housing Development corporation, and
project consultant Bob Mickelson. The proposal is to construct a 5 unit senior citizen housing
project on a vacant parcel. The exterior siding material is made by Hardi Plank, and the roofing
is made of composition shingles. A full color palette was also presented.
Susan Secoy asked what is the architectural style of this project? There are different elements
that have been incorporated into its design. From a site plan perspective, it makes sense to
break-up the massing of the units into several buildings (rather than one large building).
However there are concerns with the some of the elements, in terms of its proportions or the
balancing of the styles. In particular, the front elevation of the middle building consists of placing
columns on top of a very large base. In trying to reference some of the styles within Old Towne,
it does not appear to occur with this project. More refinement is still needed to stay more true to
the architectural styles typically found in Old Towne. As for the attached garages, perhaps there
are ways to further break-up the length of the solid plane.
Leonard Filner noticed that the 2 trees in front of the middle building are not the same. One is a
Brachychiton and the other is a Lagerstroemia. This is rather unusual because the building
elevation is symmetrical in design facing La Veta Avenue. Suggest using the two of the same
trees in front to create symmetry.
The project was opened for public comments:
Joan Crawford stated that the proposal seem like a good idea, and she hopes the project will
work on this site. What is the F.A.R. for this project?. The middle building with attached
garages -this is not a feature typically found in Old Towne. What architectural style is this?
Vern Jones calculated roughly .41 F.A.R. for this project. Code allows up to .60 F.A.R. for R-4
zoned lots.
Bob Mickelson asked if the use of light bollards are acceptable for this project.
Susan Secoy stated that there are light bollard designs that are sensitive to Old Towne.
Susan Secoy also raised concerns with the large expanse of asphalt paving used through out
the project site. It would be preferable to have some type of enhanced paving to help break-up
these areas.
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MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project with the following conditions:
1. Further explore the architectural style of this project. Particularly in reference to the front
south) elevation base/column treatment, and the overall proportion of the project.
2. Project lighting needs further study to be sensitive to Old Towne. (i.e. bollards)
3. Garage elements shall be sympathetic with the rest of the building. (Use the same color so
that there are no contrast).
4. Provide enhanced paving at the two driveway entrances off Lemon Street and Olive Street.
5. Suggest using two of the same trees, either Brachychiton or Lagerstroemia, to create
symmetry in front of the middle building.
6. Submit final landscape plans to Community Services Department for approval. Final plans
to include City required inspection notes.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Leonard Filner, Vern Jones, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: Linda Boone, Mark Paone, Joe Woollett
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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4. DRC No. 3559 - LIS GIUSTO
New 1 %2 story accessory second unit within the Old Towne District
374 N. Cambridge Street (Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
The revised plans were presented by the owner Lis Giusto and her architect Doug Ely. The
square footage of the unit has been decrease to help further reduced the building's bulk and
mass. The dormer element along the north elevation has been modified to reflect his change.
The DRC stated that the revised plans (Alternative `A') are much improved over the previous
submittal. In the event that the Planning Commission and/or City Council does not approve the
variance request for the reduced unit size, the original design must be brought back to the DRC
for additional review.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to recommend approval of the project, specifically Alternative `A', to
the Planning Commission with the following conditions:
In the event that the Planning Commission and/or City Council does not approve the
variance request for the reduced unit size, the original design must be brought back to the
DRC for additional review.
The recommendation for approval is based on the finding that the proposed work conforms with
the standards and design criteria referenced and recommended by the Design Review
Committee. The proposed work complies with the Secretary of the Interior's Standards and
Guidelines. The proposed work is compatible with, and therefore will not adversely affect the
use and design of existing buildings within Old Towne.
SECOND:Leonard Filner
AYES:Leonard Filner, Vern Jones, Susan Secoy
NOES:None
ABSENT:Linda Boone, Mark Paone, Joe Woollett
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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5. DRC No. 3562 - CENTEX HOMES
Revised building elevation plans of an approved residential tract
Tract No. 15695 - St. Alban Ridge
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by Rick Wood with Centex Homes, and Mark Heiner with RNM
Architects. The revision involves Plan 1, which was required under the Serrano Heights Specific
Plan, as the one-story look-alike. The proposed changes are prompted by consumer demand
for a plan layout that are more advantages to the views that are offered by these hillside lots.
The originally approved Plan 1 had sold poorly as a result. The revised Plan 1XA is similar in
design, having the same building footprint as the previous Plan 1. The exterior finish materials
and color palette have also remained unchanged.
The DRC expressed concerns with the size increase of the house from 2,595 sq.ft. to 2,778
sq.ft. This is an increase of nearly 200 sq.ft., and all of which is on the second floor. This is a
substantial increase in the overall size of the house, which does not seem to meet the intent of
the one-story look-alike requirement of the Specific Plan. Although the revised building
elevation plans are acceptable in terms of architecture, the DRC would not be in support of the
proposed plan revisions unless the overall square footage of the house can be maintained
substantially the same as previously approved.
Rick Wood requested a continuance to study further plan revisions to address the above stated
concerns.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project.
SECOND:Vern Jones
AYES:Leonard Filner, Vern Jones, Susan Secoy
NOES:None
ABSENT:Linda Boone, Mark Paone, Joe Woollett
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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6. DRC No. 3564 -MIKE WEYHRICH
Demolish existing single car garage and replace with new seeer~d single story fa~i+~
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241 N. Cambridge Street (Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Final Determination
A correction was made regarding the project description being a single story addition rather
than a second story addition as described on the agenda. Also, the DRC will make a final
determination on the project, rather than recommendation to the Planning Commission)
The project was presented by the property owner and architect Mike Weyhrich. The proposal is
to construct a small addition at the rear of the house with a new 2-car garage. The building
elevations include architectural elements and features that are consistent with the existing
house and the Old Towne district. The exterior would be a smooth plaster finish painted to
match the existing house. Roof material would be a barrel shaped the also to match. The
existing detached single car garage would be demolished primarily due to its poor condition.
Susan Secoy opened the meeting to public comments:
Joan Crawford asked what is the F.A.R. of this project?
Mike Weyhrich estimates .33 F.A.R., which is well below the maximum .60 allowed by code.
Susan Secoy noticed the existing garage is made of bricks that are rather unique in texture and
pattern. Perhaps some of the existing bricks can be documented and saved, or maybe it
incorporated with the hardscape/landscape in the yard areas. Also noted is the line of
demarcation between the existing and new addition. The project is well designed with sensitivity
to the surrounding area and to the Old Towne District.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted.
The approval is based on the finding that the proposed work conforms to the standards and
design criteria referenced by the Design Review Committee. The proposed work complies with
the Secretary of the Interior's Standards and Guidelines. The proposed work will neither
adversely affect the significant architectural features of the building, nor adversely affect the
character of historical, architectural, or aesthetic interest or value of the building, its site, or the
surrounding area.
SECOND: Vern Jones
AYES: Leonard Filner, Vern Jones, Susan Secoy
NOES: None
ABSENT: Linda Boone, Mark Paone, Joe Woollett
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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7. DRC No. 3565 - U.S. BANK
New freestanding sign for an existing bank
303 W. Katella Avenue
DRC Action: Final Determination
Approved as consent item)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. The base of the sign shall be widened to 4 ft.
SECOND:Leonard Filner
AYES:Leonard Filner, Vern Jones, Susan Secoy
NOES:None
ABSENT:Linda Boone, Mark Paone, Joe Woollett
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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8. DRC No. 3566 - BANK OF AMERICA
New bank walk-up ATM kiosk in public parking lot
Northwest corner of Chapman Avenue & Center Street
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by Roy Herbold -Architect. The proposal is to construct a new 10.5
ft. x 15.5 ft. walk-up automated teller machine (ATM) kiosk at the southwest corner of the City
owned public parking lot (former Bank of America). The kiosk is shown with zero setback at the
front (south) property line along Chapman Avenue. The architectural style is Prairie.
Vern Jones clarified that the code required minimum front yard setback is 15 ft. for Old Towne
Spoke Streets along east Chapman Avenue.
Mr. Herbold replied that moving the kiosk back would eliminate one parking space, but should
not create any problems.
Susan Secoy prefers to eliminate the shutters and replace with horizontal wood siding instead.
The siding would be more consistent with the Prairie style architecture.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. Provide 15 ft. minimum front building setback along Chapman Avenue.
2. Eliminate the shutters and replace with horizontal wood siding instead.
3. Color palette shall be warm gray.
4. Composition shingle roof shall be gray.
The approval is based on the finding that the proposed work conforms to the standards and
design criteria referenced by the Design Review Committee. The proposed work complies with
the Secretary of the Interior's Standards and Guidelines. The proposed work will neither
adversely affect the significant architectural features of the building, nor adversely affect the
character of historical, architectural, or aesthetic interest or value of the building, its site, or the
surrounding area.
SECOND:Vern Jones
AYES:Leonard Filner, Vern Jones, Susan Secoy
NOES:None
ABSENT:Linda Boone, Mark Paone, Joe Woollett
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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