06-05-2002 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
Wednesday, June 5, 2002
Committee Members Present: Alice Angus
Leonard Filner (Vice Chair)
Susan Secoy
Joe Woollett (Chair)
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
David Statton, Landscape Coordinator
Khanh Le, Recording Secretary
Committee Member Absent: Mark Paone
Administrative Session - 4:00 P.M.
The committee met for an administrative session beginning at 4:00 p.m. The meeting adjourned
at approximately 6:05 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 PM
REVIEW OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Committee Member Susan Secoy to approve the May 8, 2002 minutes
with the following corrections:
DRC #3669 -Donald Bernard Page 3 paragraph 4 sentence 2 amended as follows:
In fact, homes often time ~y may have, initially, either been built with brick steps or if they were
built with wood, it was often changed within a few years as the property owner obtained the
finances to do so.
DRC #3704 - Wienerschnitzel page 5 paragraph 2 sentence 1 amended as follows:
Applicant indicated he was not aware of the 50 ft. requirement, and he would have to work out
sign placement with the awe architect.
SECOND:Alice Angus
AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Mark Paone
ABSTAINED:Joe Woollett
MOTION CARRIED
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Meeting Minutes for June 5, 2002
Page 2
REVIEW OF MINUTES: (Continued)
A motion was made by Committee Member Alice Angus to approve the May 22, 2002 minutes
with the following corrections:
DRC #3729 -Main Street Medical, page 4, paragraph 2, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Committee Member mark Paone ~ spoke about the sign program.
DRC #3731 - Oggi's Pizza & Brewing Company, page 5, paragraph 1, sentence 1 amended as
follows:
Jay Lindsey of the Mall of Orange +r~ed+~ses introduced himself and clarified
and issue that the committee had brought up in the recommendations -the landscaping
Sentence 2 amended as follows:
Mr. Lindsey stated that at present there is one missing O~eer~ Date Palm along the row that was
originally installed.
DRC #3732 -American First Credit Union, page 6, condition 1 amended as follows:
1. Upon installation of the new freestanding sign, the irrigation system must be adjusted to
r°~ minimize over-spray onto the sign and to maintain head to head coverage.
DRC #3738 -Saint Paul's Lutheran School, page 7, paragraph 3, sentence 3 amended as
follows:
It's ataus-eeler~ two-colors brick veneer that is an alternating vertical bands of light cream and
buff colors.
SECOND:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAINED
Leonard Filner
Alice Angus, Leonard
None
Mark Paone
Susan Secoy
Filner, Joe Woollett
MOTION CARRIED
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Meeting Minutes for June 5, 2002
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1. DRC No. 3725 - CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY DANCE CENTER
Review of parking lot lighting fixtures for the conversion of an existing ±10,000 sq. ft.
packinghouse to a dance center.
190 N. Cypress Street (Old Towne Historic District)
Staff Contact: Anna Pehoushek -Senior Planner
DRC Action: Final determination
Bill Cathcart -Landscape Architect, and Kris Olsen of Chapman University presented the
project. The Planning Commission approved the proposed Dance Center on May 20, 2002 with
an additional condition of approval requiring that the light fixtures used in the parking lot be
reviewed by the Design Review Committee. The proposed light fixture matches the fixture that
is currently used on the Chapman University campus
Committee Member Susan Secoy asked what is the height of the fixture, and if that was
consistent with what's on campus.
Mr. Olsen replied that the light poles are twelve (12) feet in height, which is the same as the
campus.
A motion was made by Committee Member Leonard Filner to approve the project with the
following condition:
1. The light fixtures shall have a twelve (12) foot mounting height to match the existing light
fixtures at the Chapman University campus.
The approval is based on the following findings
1. The proposed work conforms to the standards and design criteria referenced and/or
recommended by the Design Review Committee or other reviewing body for the project.
2. The proposed work complies with the Secretary of the Interior Standards for Rehabilitation
and Guidelines for Rehabilitation and infill development guidelines within a Historic District.
3. The proposed work will neither adversely affect the significant architectural features of the
building, nor adversely affect the character of historical, architectural, or aesthetic interest
or value of the building, its site, or the surrounding area.
SECOND:Susan Secoy
AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Mark Paone
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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2. DRC No. 3735 - DEANN DE BEY
New 660 sq. ft. two-car detached garage to replace an existing 252 sq.ft. single-car
detached garage for an existing 1919 Craftsman residence.
231 N. Grand Street (Old Towne Historic District)
Staff Contact: Daniel Ryan -Senior Planner, Historic Preservation
DRC Action: Final Determination
Ms. Deann De Bey and her architect Mr. George C. Giuchowski presented the project. The
proposal is to construct a new 660 sq.ft. two-car detached garage to replace the existing single-
car garage.
Committee Chair Joe Woollett asked what is new siding material and how does it compare to
the siding on the existing house.
Mr. Guichowski answered that it is a "Hardi-Plank" siding that is similar to the siding used on the
existing house.
Committee Chair Joe Woollett asked about the design on the garage door.
Ms. De Bey explained that she wanted a garage door with windows because she keeps her dog
in the garage during the day, which gets dark without windows.
Committee Member Susan Secoy asked if the existing ribbon driveway could be replaced with a
similar ribbon driveway.
Ms. De Bey explained that the driveway was originally paved with gravel and she had it redone
with a ribbon driveway. It was not done properly and it needs to be replaced.
The meeting was opened for public comments:
Jeff Frankel (384 S. Orange Street) stated that he would like to see wood siding to match the
existing house.
Janet Crenshaw (464 N. Shaffer Street) stated that she would also like to see wood siding and
the ribbon driveway.
Ms. De Bey explained that the current siding is not wood and does not match the house.
Committee Member Susan Secoy asked about the corners of the siding.
Mr. Guichowski explained that the existing house has a mitered corner and they would continue
with that for the siding on the garage.
Committee Member Susan Secoy expressed concern with the garage door being rather
contemporary in design. Although she did not have a problem with the glass, she suggested
changing to a design that matches better with the old one.
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2. DRC No. 3735 - DEANN DE BEY (Continued)
Staff Member Chuck Lau stated that he has a catalog of sectional garage doors that has the
lights with a diagonal style similar to the style of existing garage doors.
Committee Member Susan Secoy stated for the record that she prefers the use of wood siding
on the garage.
A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the project with the following
conditions:
1. Provide new ribbon driveway minimum 20 ft. back from front property line.
2. The use of Hardi-Plank siding is approved. Siding shall be the same profile as the existing
house.
3. New garage doors may be a sectional design with diagonal trim element to match existing
garage doors. (Final garage door design to be submitted to City Historic Preservation
Staff Planner for review and approval).
4. Siding trims and bracket details shall match the existing residence in profile.
5. The new roofing material shall match the existing roofing material.
The approval is based on the following findings:
1. The proposed work conforms to the standards and design criteria referenced and/or
recommended by the Design Review Committee or other reviewing body for the project.
2. The proposed work complies with the Secretary of the Interior Standards for Rehabilitation
and Guidelines for Rehabilitation and infill development guidelines within a Historic District.
3. The proposed work will neither adversely affect the significant architectural features of the
building, nor adversely affect the character of historical, architectural, or aesthetic interest
or value of the building, its site, or the surrounding area.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mark Paone
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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3. DRC No. 3741 -PAUL HUDSON
Reconfigure and replacement of existing windows along the north and south side
elevations of an existing 1911 Craftsman residence.
212 S. Orange Street (Old Towne Historic District)
Staff Contact: Daniel Ryan -Senior Planner, Historic Preservation
DRC Action: Final Determination
Mr. Paul Hudson presented the project. The proposal is to reconfigure and reduce the number
of second story windows along the north and south elevations of the house. He believes that
the existing sets of double-hung windows are out of scale with this house.
The meeting was opened for public comments:
Jeff Frankel (384 S. Orange Street) commented that the proposed new plan looks really good.
A motion was made by Committee Member Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted.
The approval is based on the following findings:
1. The proposed work conforms to the standards and design criteria referenced and/or
recommended by the Design Review Committee or other reviewing body for the project.
2. The proposed work complies with the Secretary of the Interior Standards for Rehabilitation
and Guidelines for Rehabilitation and infill development guidelines within a Historic District.
3. The proposed work will neither adversely affect the significant architectural features of the
building, nor adversely affect the character of historical, architectural, or aesthetic interest
or value of the building, its site, or the surrounding area.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mark Paone
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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