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04-19-2006 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES -FINAL 19 April 2006 Committee Members Present: Jon Califf Bill Cathcart Donnie DeWees Craig Wheeler Joe Woollett Staff in Attendance: Leslie Roseberry, Planning Manager Christopher Carnes, Senior Planner Anne Fox, Contract Staff Planner Dan Ryan, Senior Planner Mari Burke, Recording Secretary Committee Member Absent: None Administrative Session - 5:00 P.M. The Committee met for an administrative session beginning at 5:00 p.m. The meeting adjourned at approximately 9:18 p.m. Regular Session - 5:30 P.M. Chair Califf announced the following Agenda Item as a Consent Item per the concurrence of the Committee Members: 6. DRC No. 4073-06 -NEW KITCHEN SHOWROOM City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 Apri12006 Page 2 1. DRC No. 4091-06 - ST. JOSEPH HEALTH SYSTEM Proposed 217,000 sq. ft. medical office building and 1,800 space parking structure. 1000 W. La Veta Avenue Staff Contact: Chris Carnes, (714) 744-7225, ccarnes ,cityoforange.org DRC Action: Final Determination Committee Member Bill Cathcart recused himself. Christopher Carnes did brief project overview and introduced applicant's representatives. Joseph Marshall, Chong Partners Architecture, gave an overview of the project to be situated at 1000 West La Veta. The project consists of 3-story cancer center at the front -two above ground floors, one below ground and a 7-story medical office building portion. Structures are connected. A separate free standing parking structure is proposed for the rear. Main entry is off West La Veta with passenger drop off zone and vehicular traffic points highlighted to committee members. A review of planned occupancy on a floor-by-floor basis was provided. First level included lobby, conference center, check-in area with resource center, administrative section of offices, medical offices, specialty clinic/diagnostic area with patient waiting area. It was noted they do anticipate some retail participation in base i.e. pharmacy and cafe. The second level is an entire floor for dialysis and chemotherapy. Focus on design was on natural characteristics and healing. Within this there are view gardens so patients have access to natural light. Second story is mostly glass. The basement is where MRI suites, imaging and linear accelerators are located. There are also two waiting areas. Exterior of the building is basically stone base (samples of stone provided to committee) with three types of glass (again, samples were provided to committee). The parking garage positioned at the rear is a post tension, concrete structure that will perhaps support some signage facing the highway. Renderings referenced in handout were viewed by Committee. During initial rendering review Committee Member Woollett questioned material used in screen around mechanical equipment on top floor. Response from applicant was this is a metal screen, standard corrugated, typically seen in this type of scenario. Screen heights were also questioned by Committee Member Woollett. Applicant advised the screen heights vary slightly; however for the example in question, it is equivalently at the top of the cooling tower. Committee Member Craig Wheeler pointed out that screens should be higher than equipment and he suggested curving the front of the mechanical screen to mimic the glass wall. Applicant thought this was a good suggestion. Committee Member Wheeler also inquired about mobility of large equipment into and out of the basement area. The applicant's response was that City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 April 2006 Page 3 provisions for movement have been made---skylights have been sized so machinery can be craned in and out. Stone and stucco interaction was questioned by Committee Member Wheeler. Samples were provided for committee viewing. Discussion ensued regarding use of bandings and glass placements with Committee Member Donnie DeWees querying lack of use of glass on west side and use of shadings. Applicant responded that glazing will be used and energy rating was a consideration. All specifications are typically green. Applicant advised they have worked extensively with mechanical engineers, particularly on special features which include high velocity systems and control/monitoring systems. There are a lot of these in place. Committee Member DeWees then inquired about roofing. Planned roofing is single ply EPDM, light color. Committee Member Craig Wheeler spoke briefly about the horizontal banding. Committee Member DeWees noted a disparity in the number of horizontal bandings. Applicant commented there was a mistake on the renderings. Chair Jon Califf solicited public comment on this issue. No public comment was provided. The parking structure was then discussed with lighting preferences covered by Committee Member Joe Woollett. Applicant representative, Gary Begin, conducted the landscaping plan review advising the Committee of a Cal Trans request to exclude trees in the area of the on ramp. Further, he noted Howard has worked out a plant palette with Cal Trans around the parking structure. Italian Cypress, Queen Palms and Canary Island Palms are being used to give height next to the building. When asked about trees in the garden area on the second story, committee was told that it hasn't been addressed yet on the plans; however, the plan is to use Ficus, Palms and some Bamboo trees that could take shade. Motion was made by Committee Member Joe Woollett to approve DRC 4091-06 subject to the following conditions: 1) Lighting in the parking structure be designed so that the lamp is not freeway visible. 2) Applicant ask for reconsideration by Cal Trans for planting on the north end of the east side. SECOND: Committee Member Craig Wheeler. AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: Bill Cathcart (recused) MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 Apri12006 Page 4 2. DRC No. 4022-OS - LEZAMA RESIDENCE Proposal for a new 2,825 sq. ft. two-story, second-unit, with attached garage. 569 N. Olive Street Staff Contact: Dan Ryan, (714) 744-7224, drvan(a,cityoforange.org DRC Action: Final Determination Dan Ryan, Senior Historic Planner reviewed the project, highlighting comments found in the analysis section of the staff report relative to structure heights, expanse of concrete and lack of landscaping along the north side, architectural dissimilarities between the front and rear structures. He confirmed this project is not in Old Towne and introduced applicant/owner. Applicant acknowledged city guidelines were received and they attempted to adhere to them as much as possible. He noted that they are surrounded by 2-story buildings, the rear structure will be pretty much covered by the front home and the property overall was not in good condition when acquired. Committee Member Woollett inquired if the work done on the front house was done prior to the new Infill ordinance. Per Dan Ryan the scope of the project would not be triggered by the ordinance as it is outside of the district. Committee Member DeWees pointed out that there was a huge issue with scale. Several Committee Members offered suggestions for plate height modification taking into consideration the street scope pattern, height of second story in back and how they fit on site and within the neighborhood so there are no impacts on streetscapes or the neighborhood. Committee Member Cathcart pointed out that a reduction in footprint would leave more room for landscaping and added that auto irrigation would be required. Committee Member Woollett pointed out that as presented there is really only one usable side yard. Modification was suggested to provide for additional space on the garage side. Further, he highlighted the need for the front and rear structures to be more compatible from an architectural standpoint. Chair Jon Califf suggested carving concrete driveway back giving an additional 2 ft. for planting. Committee Member Craig Wheeler suggested use of a ribbon driveway and highlighted the need for coordinating the window sizes on plans and elevations. Chair asked if applicant has sufficient guidance as to City requirements. Committee Member Wheeler recapped: 1) Landscape along driveway. 2) Go to ribbon driveway to increase landscaping. 3) Revise paving to make it more patio looking. 4) Bring plate height down in house to 9/8 or 8/8. 5) Make the non garage side yard 2 ft. bigger. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 April 2006 Page 5 6) Restudy the front end of rear house to make it look more compatible with the front house. 7) Make rear structure 1-1/2 story (detail as to how to accomplish this was provided to applicant). 8) Make porch on front house which would solve entry issue (again, detail as to how this would be accomplished was provided to applicant). 9) Make sure drawings match (measurements on drawings and elevations). 10)Simplify window trim on rear structure. Applicant expressed concern over timeliness of City process to get before DRC. Several Committee Members offered to avail themselves to applicant to provide guidance when applicant discusses modifications with his architect. Committee Member Woollett moved to continue DRC 4022-05. Motion was seconded by Committee Member Wheeler. AYES: Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 Apri12006 Page 6 3. DRC No. 4038-OS -SANTA MONROY RESIDENCE Proposed Accessory Dwelling Unit. 621 N. Orange Street Staff Contact: Chris Carnes, (714) 744-7225, ccarnes(a,cityoforan eg_.org DRC Action: Final Determination Committee Member DeWees recused himself. Christopher Carnes provided overview of project and introduced applicant. No public comment offered. Committee Member Wheeler asked about the existing garage doors. Applicant responded that some time back the City had advised them they did not need to demolish the front garage; however she indicated they will be using it for access. Per Committee Member Wheeler if they are removing the garage door for access, the inside of the garage needs to be cleaned up. He further suggested: the additional parking space be made to look more like a patio, two different roof styles are apparent and that a hip roof rather than a gable roof style is preferable, additional information on the window trims would be nice. The applicant stated they would be using brick on the patio and agreed to provide additional information as requested. Chair Califf advised that tandem parking is not acceptable. Two covered spaces are required for the single-family dwelling. The granny flat requires one additional uncovered parking space. Some discussion took place about the entry to the rear unit. Chair Califf requested the roof overhang be increased or a porch be created. Committee Member Craig Wheeler suggested the measurements on the drawings be double- checked. It appears that the roof on rear unit comes right up to the garage door. Committee Member Wheeler then made a motion to approve DRC No. 4038-OS with the following conditions: 1) Double-check the status of garage door -stay or go? If it goes, what will be done to clean up the looks of the inside of the garage? 2) Fix roof on elevations to match plans -all should be hip style. 3) Show something more decorative on uncovered parking space. 4) Enhance entry feeling for rear unit (so a covering exists by the door). 5) The irrigation system should be automatic. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 April 2006 Page 7 Motion was seconded by Chair Califf. AYES:. Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: Donnie DeWee (recused) MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 Apri12006 Page 8 4. DRC No. 4041-OS - PLASCENCIA DUPLEX Proposed addition to an existing single-family residence to create a duplex development. 921 East Palmyra Avenue Staff Contact: Anne Fox, (714) 744-7229, afoxncityoforan eg_.org DRC Action: Final Determination Anthony Oronoz introduced himself as the designer for this project representing the owners. He reviewed the plans with committee advising the proposal is an addition to the existing 2- bedroom/1-bath home making it a 3-bedroom/2 bath and a new home to be built in the rear of the lot. Planner Anne Fox advised the project is located just outside the Old Towne District; however it is subject to the In-Fill guidelines. She also clarified if the addition to the front of the house were the only proposal it would be viewed by staff at the counter as it falls below the threshold for an addition. Construction in the rear is really under the purview of the committee. Another point of clarification was the existence of the balcony on some of the plans and on some of the elevations. The balcony is not part of the project. The applicant is aware that it must be removed. Concern for committee is whether or not this proposal is meeting the objectives. Primarily all structures in this area are single story. The only 2-story in the rear of a property is two doors down to the east and was in place before the implementation of the guidelines in place today. This will be a very box like structure, built out to setbacks, below the FAR threshold; however, the question is whether or not it meets the design objectives and is there an issue with privacy concerns with public spaces occurring on the second floor if it is approved as presented today. Pictures were shown to committee and discussion revolved around siding and the materials currently in use and those planned. Committee Member Craig Wheeler advised that texture would be conditioned to be "smooth". The applicant plans to change the entrance from the front to the street and showed placement of two bay windows on the second floor. Roof style will have a gable with the same materials of the front house. Committee Member Craig Wheeler suggested lowering the roof pitch to de-emphasize height, including some columns for the porch roof as there are no visible means of support, moving the stairway towards the center of the house as the window is blocked as it's presently shown, repositioning bedrooms which would address privacy issue noted on the second floor, cut down to 8 ft. plate on both levels and advised the need for installation of corner boards if hardy board is used. Committee Member Bill Cathcart advised a landscaping and irrigation plan should be brought back to the DRC. A motion to continue DRC 4041-OS with suggestions was proposed by Committee Member Craig Wheeler, seconded by Committee Member Woollett. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 Apri12006 Page 9 AYES:Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:None RECUSED:None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 Apri12006 Page 10 5. DRC No. 4050-OS -PUBLIC STORAGE Proposal to demolish three of five existing single-story storage unit buildings totaling 22,852 square feet in order to construct afour-story storage unit building of 106,044 square feet with associated site improvements. 1040 North Main Street Staff Contact: Anne Fox, (714) 744-7229, afox(a,cityoforange.org DRC Action: Recommendation to the Planning Commission Review of the project was conducted by Planner, Anne Fox. She noted this project does go on to the Planning Commission and that the DRC is being asked to make a recommendation on the design of the project. There were two areas of concern identified in the Staff Report---one relates to signage and the other related to landscaping. Dean Grobbelaar, Pacific Planning Group, spoke of the fourth generation storage buildings now being used which are larger and more sophisticated. He noted they are trying to go to more of a Class A office building look. The metal panel proposed is a new textured, curtain wall product. The color isn't yet finalized. A lot of discussion ensued over the use of metal with the appearance of stucco followed by an inquiry about the parapet. Committee Member Joe Woollett inquired about the building classification and if this is non- combustible. The response was this is a Class 2 and yes, it is non-combustible. Committee Member Woollett then asked what the floors are made of. The response was "metal decking concrete". Committee Member Wheeler indicated the DRC strongly suggested a paint stripe be used in lieu of a cornice. He also noted that even though it's a metal roof versus tile, the forms match very nicely. Mr. Grobbelaar advised that the proposed improvements to the existing two buildings are a new two-coat stucco will be applied and score lines at the same 30" module on the building so that this is carried through. Committee Member Donnie DeWees commented on the stair tower grid pattern being turned vertically. He asked if they would look to turn those horizontally. Mr. Grobbelaar said this would be easy to remedy. Committee Member Cathcart made a few requests: 1) The specific name of the tree should be removed from the plan as the City has not yet made final determination -instead just state street tree is required. 2) Increase size of specimens from 24" to 36". 3) Remove a couple of the trees -- (1) of the Chinese Flame trees and (1) northern most Melaleuca. 4) Move all other trees away from the building. 5) The notes on the bottom of the plan are required by Community Services. Planner Anne Fox then summarized the Committee recommendations: 1) Smooth treatment on panel. 2) Elimination of cornice replacing with cap. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 April 2006 Page 11 3) Return height on parapet on existing front building. 4) Staircase towers going to horizontal. 5) Street tree is required (without specific name). 6) Removal of trees and increase size specimens to 36". Committee Member Wheeler moved to approve DRC 4050-OS with conditions as noted. Motion was seconded by Committee Member Cathcart. AYES:Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:None RECUSED:None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 Apri12006 Page 12 6. DRC No. 4073-06 -NEW KITCHEN SHOWROOM Proposal for new signs for a commercial Old Towne building. 541 W. Chapman Avenue, Old Towne Orange Historic District Staff Contact: Dan Ryan, (714) 744-7224, dr~n(a~,cityoforange.org DRC Action: Final Determination This item was approved as consent. Motion by Chair Califf. Seconded by Committee Member Wheeler. AYES:Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:None RECUSED:None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 Apri12006 Page 13 7. DRC No. 4075-06 -AMC PARKING DECK AT THE BLOCK Proposal to construct a parking structure with an at-grade level and five levels above. East side of City Blvd. West, beginning at a point approximately 140 feet South of City Parkway West Staff Contact: Anne Fox, (714) 744-7229, afox(a~ci oforange.org DRC Action: Final Determination Anne Fox provided a project overview and advised this review is a result of a previous condition placed on the Block expansion project. Debra Warner introduced herself and her colleague, Terry Fitzgerald. Although the applicant indicated the intent was to utilize a neutral color scheme, it was noted by Committee Member Wheeler that the color scheme does not seem to relate to the shopping center. By using a different color it was Committee Member Wheeler's opinion it would make the parking structure stand out as larger. Committee Member DeWees commented it should appear as an extension of the Block rather than making it somewhat of a unique element. Committee Member Woollett questioned the lighting plan. Ms. Warner informed the committee that the interior lighting has not been determined yet. The exterior plan has already been submitted. She is aware of the requirement to not have lamps visible. Committee Member Cathcart asked if the inside of the garage was going to be painted and the response was yes. Committee Member Wheeler asked about the landscaping and indicated the drawings appear to have a totally unique plan versus carrying over from the existing parking lot. He wanted to know if the same palms could be utilized. The applicant responded that the landscape architect's intent was to carry it over. He did that with the crape myrtles being continuous along the road and the same species palms (grouped in fours) as presently done in the parking lot. Finally there is a big coral tree on the corner at the major entrances. Committee Member Cathcart indicated they need to spell out the Indian variety of crape myrtle. The discussion then revolved around the landscaping design on the north side. Committee Member Woollett would like to set a time frame condition for a landscape plan to be completed. Ms. Roseberry indicated it would have to be something that is enforceable. Committee Member Woollett then moved approval of DRC 4075-06 in accordance with staff recommendations and the following conditions: 1) The interior lighting be designed so that the lamps are not visible from the exterior of the building. 2) The landscaping be installed on the no. side of the building within five years or sooner if the project to the north is completed before five years. 3) The wall colors match the AMC building. 4) The landscaping design be approved by staff and be complimentary landscape. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 Apri12006 Page 14 The motion was seconded by Chair Jon Califf. AYES:Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:None RECUSED:None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for 19 April 2006 Page 15 A motion was made to approve the minutes of January 18, 2006, as amended, and to adjourn until the next scheduled session was proposed by Chair Califf. Seconded by Committee Member Wheeler. AYES:Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:None RECUSED:None MOTION CARRIED.