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04-19-2000 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES for Wednesday, April 19, 2000 Committee Members Present: Leonard Filner Vern Jones* Mark Paone Susan Secoy (Chair) Joe Woollett (Vice Chair) Replaced Linda Boone for this meeting) Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator Committee Members Absent: Linda Boone Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M. The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at approximately 9:00 p.m. Regular Session - 5:30 PM REVIEW OF MINUTES: A motion was made by Joe Woollett to approve the April 5, 2000 minutes as submitted. SECOND:Susan Secoy AYES:Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Linda Boone ABSTAINED:Vern Jones Mark Paone MOTION CARRIED The review and approval of the March 22, 2000 minutes was deferred to the May 3, 2000 meeting. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 2 DRC No. 3299 -SPIRIT & TRUTH WORSHIP CENTER Final landscape review for an approved new church facility 4700 E. Walnut Avenue DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by Scott Holland with Design ARC, Inc. Mr. Holland is replacing the previous architect Mr. Joseph Columbo. The site plan and building elevations were approved by the Planning Commission back in 1998. This is a submittal of the final landscape plans per the DRB's condition of approval. The DRC expressed concerns with not having the final building elevation plans as part of this submittal. The DRC needs to review the proposed landscape plan in context with the approved site and building elevation plans in order to have a better understanding of the overall project. The DRC also suggested the use of planting materials that are more dense to help screen the building such as Carrotwood trees. MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project per discussion above. SECOND: Mark Paone AYES: Leonard Filner, Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Linda Boone ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 3 2. DRC No. 3380 -ORANGE COMMERCE CENTER New freestanding signs for an existing office complex 505 S. Main Street DRC Action: Final Determination Approved as consent item) MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project as a submitted. SECOND:Leonard Filner AYES:Leonard Filner, Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Linda Boone ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 4 3. DRC No. 3416 - LA PLATA ENTERPRISES, INC. Landscape review for an approved senior housing project 170 N. Prospect Street DRC Action: Final Determination The final landscape plans were presented by Leonard Filner, Landscape Architect. This is a submittal of the final landscape plans for an approved senior housing project. MOTION by Joe Woollett to approve the project with the following conditions: 1. Change Rain Bird 1804 to 1806 Series sprinklers. 2. Provide symbol on planting legend indicating plant material size for shrubs and trees. 3. Submit final landscape and irrigation plans to Community Services Department staff for approval. SECOND:Susan Secoy AYES:Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Linda Boone ABSTAINED:Leonard Filner MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 5 4. DRC No. 3528 -FRANK CHAO New custom single family residence 6143 Cliffway Drive DRC Action: Final Determination Continued from 03/22/00 meeting The project was presented by the owner, Mr. Frank Chao. The plans have been revised to address the DRC's concerns stated from previous meeting. His Landscape architect has met with the Fire Marshall for fuel modification requirements, but was unable to arrive at a solution that would satisfy both the DRC concerns and the Fire Department's requirements. Mark Paone asked if the wet zone can be extended further down the slope to allow for the planting of trees, similar to another project that was approved earlier this year. The applicant should also submit a site section drawing to illustrate the slope conditions of the site. The DRC is concerned with the view from down the slope. MOTION by Vern Jones to approve the site and building elevation plans, including the exterior finish materials and color palette, subject to the following conditions: 1. Applicant to meet with the Fire Department and Planning staff to work out a better solution. 2. Submit final landscape plans to DRC for approval. SECOND: Mark Paone AYES: Leonard Filner ,Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Linda Boone ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 6 5. DRC No. 3532 -ORANGE ROTARY SENIOR APARTMENTS New 5 unit senior housing project in Old Towne North side of La Veta Avenue between Olive Street and Lemon Street DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission Applicant not present) MOTION by Mark Paone to continue the project. SECOND:Susan Secoy AYES:Leonard Filner ,Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Linda Boone ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 7 6. DRC No. 3533 -HOWARD JOHNSON MOTEL Proposed expansion and renovation of an existing motel 1930 E. Katella Avenue DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission The project was presented by Mr. Tom Lim, Architect. The proposal is to expand and remodel an existing motel that was originally approved by the Planning commission over 2'/2 years ago. The business is under new ownership, and they are ready to re-submit their application to the City again. The remodeling includes raising the roof pitch and porto cochere to achieve a more proportioned building, and to better screening for the roof mounted mechanical equipment. The existing landscaping will also be upgraded to provide a more pleasant environment. Leonard Filner stated that the proposed landscaping is a great improvement over the existing. There are plenty of large size trees through out the site. MOTION by Susan Secoy to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission with the following conditions: 1. All roof mounted mechanical equipment shall be screened from view. 2. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final landscape and irrigation plans to Community Service Department for approval. Final plans to include City required inspection notes. SECOND:Vern Jones AYES:Leonard Filner NOES:None ABSENT:Linda Boone ABSTAINED:None Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 8 7. DRC No. 3534 -DAN'S CHEVRON Replacement new automotive service station with mini mart 3301 E. Chapman Avenue DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by the owner Mr. Taniel Keheian and his contractors Mr. Mark Warren and Mr. Larry Blaine. The proposal is to demolish the existing service station and construct a new 2,400 sq.ft. facility to include a new mini mart. The building would be constructed from block with a metal standing-seam roof. The exterior finish is to be stucco and painted with Chevron's corporate colors. Susan Secoy asked if the exterior finish materials and colors can be more consistent with the recently remodeled Stater Brothers supermarket (formerly Albertson's) at the adjoining shopping center. Would there be any objections to using a similar split-face block at the base of the building to create some continuity with the adjoining center? Mark Paone agreed and stated that exterior material sample and color palette must be submitted at their next meeting prior to the DRC granting final approval. Leonard Filner raised concerns with the proposed use of Oleanders because these trees are susceptible to bacterial leaf scorch which there is currently no control to prevent this disease. Suggest replacing the Oleander with Tristania, Australian Willow or Camphor trees. MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project with the following conditions: 1. Exterior finish materials and color palette to match or compliment the recently remodeled Stater Brothers supermarket at the adjoining shopping center. 2. Investigate the use of split face block at the base of the building (all 4 sides). 3. Submit exterior finish material sample and color palette. 4. Recommend replacing Oleander with Tristania, Australian Willow or Camphor trees. minimum 25% of trees shall be 24 inch box size or larger) SECOND:Vern Jones AYES:Leonard Filner NOES:None ABSENT:Linda Boone ABSTAINED:None Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 9 8. DRC No. 3535 -CITY OF ORANGE Renovation of existing public restrooms Orange Metrolink Station -Atchison Street DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by Jess Garcia with the Department of Community Services, and the landscape architect Mr. Randy Meyer. The proposed improvements are intended to provide added security and privacy. There have been vandalism and graffiti problems in the past. Colors will match with the existing building. MOTION by Mark Paone to approve the project as submitted. SECOND:Joe Woollett AYES:Leonard Filner ,Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Linda Boone ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 10 9. DRC No. 3536 - ALBERTSON'S Renovation of an existing super market 940 N. Tustin Street DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by Mr. Virgil Griffin and Mr. Gang Chen with Jallali Griffin Architects, Inc. The proposal is to remodel the exterior building facade of an existing supermarket. The market was recently changed from Lucky's to Albertson's. Mark Paone commended the architect for a well designed project. However, there are still some design details that need to be resolved (i.e. diagonal scoring pattern material, roof coping material, lighting fixtures, ceramic tiles, canopy, etc.), prior to final approval. Susan Secoy agreed and stated that the proposed renovations will make improvements to the existing shopping center. MOTION by Mark Paone to continue the project with the following conditions: 1. Submit exterior finish material sample and color palette. 2. Submit detailed section drawings and/or manufacturer's specifications (cut sheet) per discussion above. SECOND:Vern Jones AYES:Leonard Filner ,Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Linda Boone ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 11 10. DRC No. 3537 - KATELLA PLAZA Renovation of an existing retail shopping center 1333 N. Glassell St. & 215, 217-317 E. Katella Avenue DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by Mr. Lon Bike with Architectural Team 3, and Karen Stinson with Wohl Investment Company. The proposal is to remodel an existing retail center that was originally constructed in the 60's. The building elevations will have a more contemporary appearance and roof tiles that are similar to the "Pep Boys" building. The project also includes an upgrade of the existing landscape areas. Mark Paone suggested to the applicants that signage opportunities should be taken into consideration for the new raised roof parapet. This will avoid future tenant signage problems. Susan Secoy stated that she is enthusiastic with the overall improvements to the image of the existing center, but felt that more information is still needed prior to final approval by the DRC. A more updated color rendering is needed, as well as an elevation drawing of the entire center to show how it all ties-in together. The submittal should also include cut-sheets of the proposed awning and lighting fixtures. MOTION by Mark Paone to continue the project per the above discussion. SECOND: Vern Jones AYES: Leonard Filner ,Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Linda Boone ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 12 11. DRC No. 3538 -JENNIFER ROSS Second story addition to an existing single family residence 933 E. Van Bibber DRC Action: Final Determination The project was presented by the owners James and Jennifer Ross. The proposed second story addition was approved by the Zoning Administrator to allow a 4 ft. side yard setback along the east property line. MOTION by Leonard Filner to approve the project with the following condition: 1. Provide one additional tree for a total of three 24 inch box trees (Carolina Cherry) along the east building elevation. SECOND:Susan Secoy AYES:Leonard Filner ,Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Linda Boone ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 13 12. DRC No. 3540 - CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY Demolition of an existing parking lot and replace with a new 700 car parking structure at a university campus located within the Old Towne District One University Drive DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission The project was presented by the project manager for Chapman University Mr. John Biggs, and the project architect Bob Hornacek. The proposal is to construct a 4 story parking structure that will accommodate approximately 700 cars to be located on the existing site of the stadium and the Orange Street parking lot. The presentation included a study model to illustrate the relationship to the campus and the future chapel located adjacent to south of the proposed parking structure. The project has been scheduled for public hearing before the Planning Commission on June 5, 2000. Susan Secoy asked if the chapel can be reviewed in conjunction with the proposed parking structure? The chapel is such a prominent building within the university campus. Mr. Biggs replied that Chapman University prefers to process only the parking structure, and not to include the future chapel at this time. The chapel will not commence until this project is completed. Susan Secoy opened the meeting for public comments. Janet Crenshaw expressed her concerns with the tall parking structure being seen from Glassell Street. If the university claims that there is already enough parking (complies to code), then why the need for another parking structure? Mr. Biggs replied that the structure is located 180 ft. away from Glassell Street, and it is heavily planted to help soften its appearance. The height and setbacks are within parameters of the adopted Chapman University Specific Plan. The exterior finish materials also ties-in with the rest of the campus. Mr. Biggs further stated that the design is attractive and therefore is not imposing to the neighborhood. Mark Paone stated that section drawings (extending out to Glassell Street) are needed to better understand the visual impacts of the structure on the surrounding community. Also, some additional photographs of the surrounding area with the parking structure superimposed would be very helpful. Joe Woollett stated that Chapman University is an important part of the community, and that the design of the structure needs to be sensitive to the residential neighbors. Mr. Woollett also stated the since the chapel is such an important building for the university campus, he would not want to compromise its design in any way by pre-approving a structure that is immediately adjacent to it. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 14 Mr. Biggs stated that although the plans had already been done, that they have delayed bringing the parking structure to the DRC until now because more time was needed to study the chapel so that its design would not be comprised by the parking structure. Mark Paone stated that although the design approach is consistent with the existing parking structure (at Sycamore), there are some differences in terms of scale as this is a much longer structure. Perhaps one solution (per the recommendations of the City's Senior Historic Preservation Planner Mr. Daniel Ryan), is to mask the repetitive appearance of the floor plates by adding strong vertical elements to help off-set the horizontal character of the parking structure. Another concern is that along the south side, the structure abruptly ends in a flat wall. There needs to be some type of "terminus" to help tie-in with the chapel. Susan Secoy stated that the structure is very "skeletal", and is very obvious that it is a parking structure. Although she does not have any objections to "honest" architecture (by not hiding what it actually is), however, this is in a very sensitive context within a historic district. The structure with its extreme length and monumental scale, needs to be broken up into more sensitive massing design approach. Also, the landscape planters need to be extended further out to the corners of the parking structure. Mr. Hornacek disagreed and stated that the structure would appear more massive if solid elements are introduce into the design. The parking structure's simple lines and its "frailty" is actually an advantage. Mark Paone stated that there is not enough information at this time for the DRC to conclude that what is being presented at this meeting is the final solution. The applicants needs to explore other alternatives to assure that this best design solution. MOTION by Mark Paone to continue the project per the above discussion. SECOND:Vern Jones AYES:Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Linda Boone ABSTAINED:Leonard Filner MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for April 19, 2000 Page 15 13. DRC No. 3541 -FAIRCHILD CLEANERS New wall sign for an existing laundry/cleaners business 655 S. Main Street, Ste. 200 DRC Action: Recommendation to Zoning Administrator Approved as a consent item) MOTION by Susan Secoy to recommend approval of the project as submitted to the Zoning Administrator. SECOND: Joe Woollett AYES: Leonard Filner, Vern Jones, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Linda Boone ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED 04-19-00 drem