04-07-2004 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
Apri17, 2004
Committee Members Present: Jon Califf
Craig Wheeler
Joe Woollett (Chair)
Donnie Dewees
Staff in Attendance: Leslie Aranda Roseberry, Planning Manager
Dan Ryan, Senior Historic Planner
Committee Member Absent: None
Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M.
The committee met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned
at 7:15 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 P.M.
A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the December 3, 2003 minutes
subject to the following corrections:
DRC 3861-03 Kris~y Kreme (In-N-Out Burger Retail Center) page 5, condition 3 amended as
follows:
That the b~ie~ masonry base around the building be altered at the entry eenes columns,
r *~~ ^^'u~:~;s, to match the arch to the south.
DRC 3868-03 Tokyo Cafe pale 3, condition 2 amended as follows:
2. That the attachment of the sign to the building parapet shall be done carefully to P~~
a^m^^° minimize any potential damage.
DRC 3875-03 MBK Homes LTD image 9 paragraph 2 sentence 1 amended as follows:
One of the Committee's concerns was the landscaping, specifically the tree wells along the
driveway.
Paragraph 4, sentence 4 amended as follows:
Committee Member Wheeler also asked the applicant i-s if they had thought about adding some
decorative pavement and instead of tree, planting a vine to go up the wall.
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SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, and Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to continue approval of the January 7,
2003 meeting minutes to the April 21, 2004 meeting in order to provide committee comments
concerning DRC 3867-03 Rick and Debi Wine. However, a revision to the following project
has been completed.
DRC 3863-03 Paul and Eileen Herefelder, page 2, paragraph 2, sentence 6, amended as follows:
It was also noted that the lot area en of the F.A.R. was greater than stated on the original
submission.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, and Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the February 18, 2004 minutes
subject to the following corrections:
DRC 3881-04 Leason Pomero~III, Rage 6, condition 4 and 5 amended as follows:
4. Choose garage and exterior door styles more in keeping with the historic period of the house.
5. Items 1-5 of the Staff Recommendations be included; note that the item #6 will not be
included.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, and Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the March 3, 2004 minutes
subject to the following corrections:
DRC 3857-03 The Village at Orange, page 2, sentence 2, amended as follows:
He believes that although it may be fine structurally, visually it would be better to run a beam
across as on other signs to give some mass and reason for supporting the ^,,, curved
members.
SECOND: Jon Califf
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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1. DRC No. 3873-03 - NEXTEL COMMUNICATIONS
A proposal to install a wireless communication antenna facility enclosed within an
equipment structure on the rooftop of the existing "Elk's Lodge" building.
211 E. Chapman Avenue (Old Towne Historic District)
Staff Contact: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
DRC Action: Final Action
Continued from 3-17-2004 meeting
The applicant provided amock-up on the Elks Lodge of the new wireless communication
antenna facility and the committee members viewed it during the intervening time since the last
meeting when it was proposed. Additionally photographs were shown and discussed of this
mock-up. It was suggested that the facade should match the color, and texture, and "age" of the
existing building.
Public speakers:
Jeff Frankel, 384 S. Orange Street, Orange
Janet Crenshaw, 464 N. Shaffer, Orange
Mock-up is visible from all over town, from many vantage points
Difficult to ascertain full impact as mock-up is transparent
The committee members noted their appreciation that the applicant worked with the building's
owner to remove equipment that was visible, but was no longer being used. The applicant stated
that they were able to move the facility 3' further east than originally proposed, and they had
removed an existing satellite dish and another un-used antenna.
A motion was made by Committee member Joe Woollett to approve DRC No. 3873-03 to install
a wireless communications antenna facility on the rooftop of the existing "Elk's Lodge"
commercial building, located within the Old Towne Historic District, with the following
conditions:
1. The existing satellite dish antenna, and all other mechanical equipment and/or
accessory structures that are not being utilized, shall be removed from the rooftop,
prior to the issuance of any building permits.
2. Delete the crown molding so that the structure resembles more of an equipment room
or elevator tower.
3. Vent with hat shaped top be lowered to parapet height.
4. Applicant will modify color & texture to match the existing structure.
5. After the installation of the antenna, the applicant shall submit an analysis to
demonstrate that the proposed antenna will not cause interference with the Orange
Fire Department's 800 MHz communications system.
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SECOND:Craig Wheeler
AYES:Jon Califf, Craig Wheeler, and Joe Woollett
NOES:Donnie Dewees
ABSENT:None
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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2. DRC NO. 3866-03 - WE CARE AUTO YARD
The applicant, Charities Automobile Recycling Enterprises, LLC - dba WeCARE,
proposes to construct a 2,000 sq. ft. showroom office for the resale of used automobiles.
601 East Batavia Street
Staff Contact: Mario Chavez-Marquez, Assistant Planner
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
WITHDRAWN
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3. DRC No. 3899-04 -- SALEM LUTHERAN CHURCH
A proposal to remodel an existing portion of the school to enlarge a classroom and
enlarge the existing workspace in the art room.
6411 Frank Street
Staff Contact: Mario Chavez-Marquez, Assistant Planner
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Mario Chavez-Marquez, Assistant Planner, introduced the item. Andy Perez of Andy Perez and
Associates represented the applicant.
The committee members discussed the safety issues concerning students and their ingress/egress
to the site. They also discussed matching the color on the existing roof with the new roof
material and matching the slump stone color. The applicant stated that it would be a challenge,
but that they planned to come as close as possible to the existing color on the roof, and the slump
stone matching would be no problem.
The line-of--site was an issue with planting new landscaping at the entrance to the site, and the
committee members discussed adding color at the entrance, as well as ensuring that the height of
the new plantings match that of the existing height.
Mario Chavez-Marquez noted to the committee members that they were voting on a final action,
and that this project was no longer going on to the Planning Commission.
A motion was made by Committee Member Craig Wheeler to approve the project subject to the
following conditions:
1. All construction shall conform in substance and be maintained in general conformance
with plans labeled Exhibit A (dated April 7, 2004) and as recommended for approval by
the Design Review Committee and Planning Commission.
2. Prior to occupancy of the classroom and art room, all elevation improvements shall be
completed according to the approved plans and to the satisfaction of the Community
Development Department Director or designee.
3. These conditions shall be reprinted on the first page of the construction documents when
submitting to the Building Department for the plan check process.
4. Landscaping be provided at entrance consistent with height at landscape trail.
SECOND: Jon Califf
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, and Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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4. DRC No. 3895-04 - MS INTERNATIONAL INC.
A proposal to remodel the facade of an existing industrial building.
2095 N. Batavia Street
Staff Contact: Daniel Ryan, Senior Planner -Historic Preservation
DRC Action: Final Determination
Dan Ryan, Senior Planner, gave an overview of the project. The item was brought before the
DRC because there is a change to the face of an existing building. The committee members
discussed the exposed ducts on the building that occurred with the changes to the facade. Also,
they did not like the way the stone front met at the corners, and felt the workmanship was not up
to par (particularly the caps on the west elevation facing the street, which were not level). It was
understood that the stone front on the building was meant to showcase the product offered by the
applicant, but the DRC committee members felt that it did not accomplish this goal, and offered
ways to improve the overall appearance.
The Committee members suggested that the applicant hire a designer to work with the facade.
They suggested names on each of the stones that were showcased, with a colored elevation, to
better showcase the applicant's product. The applicant also needed to provide the DRC with a
Landscape Plan. And they suggested that the applicant should address some sort of a sun block
on the western front.
A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to continue the project so that the
applicant could address the issues delineated above.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, and Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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5. DRC No. 3900-04 -JOHN WOLBERG
A proposal to demolish an existing garage, add 296 sq.ft. onto the existing residence,
and construct a new two-story 1,355 sq.ft. residential unit with an attached two-car
garage at the rear of the property.
123 S. Lime Street
Staff Contact: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
DRC Action: Final Determination
Chuck Lau gave an overview of the project to the committee members. Although the structure
is not a contributing structure in the Old Towne Historic District, it does have distinguishing
features (double-hung wood windows with a sash, etc.). Mr. Lau met several times with Mr.
Wolberg's designer to finalize issues such as the proportion of the windows and other issues
related to matching the new structure with the house that exists on the property.
The Committee members suggested the use of a professional landscape planner, and Mr.
Wolberg stated that he had intended to do so. They confirmed with the applicant that the
exposed rafters on the house would be matched on the new addition, as well. The applicant
further stated that he would be reproofing the existing house and painting both structures to
match. Also, Craig Wheeler suggested that the applicant might consider somehow shielding the
new dwelling on the north side of the building by eliminating an upper-floor window where it
looks down on an auto yard in the adjacent property. He felt that this would also help alleviate
any noise issues. Mr. Wheeler also suggested taking a very close look at the center beam in the
alcove, which he felt would look very strange sticking out, as there's no support for it.
Mr. Wolberg noted the sound and visual problems between the auto-body shop adjacent to his
property. He asked the Committee for their comments regarding his thoughts regarding planting
tall shrubbery along the property line. The committee members stated that the planting would
not alleviate the noise problem, and they suggested a thick wall to block the noise. Italian
cypress was suggested as something that would grow in the narrow area allotted for planting.
A motion was made by Committee Member Craig Wheeler to continue the project.
SECOND: Jon Califf
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, and Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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6. DRC No. 3901-04 -RUSTY LEAF PLAZA
A proposal to install individual tenant signage panels onto an existing freestanding sign
for a retail shopping center.
2620 E. Chapman Avenue
Staff Contact: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
DRC Action: Final Determination
Chuck Lau gave the Committee an overview of the project. The shopping center had undergone
extensive remodeling, and the sign is now located where a large tree used to exist. The project
proposes to add 13 individual tenant panels on each side of the freestanding sign. The individual
tenant panels are made of white polycarbonate with translucent green vinyl copy.
The Committee members suggested making the sign narrower, using the same gold material as
on the side of the cabinet and framing the panels in the gold. The background would be green,
matching the overall color of the sign, and the type (still to be determined) would be in the
Helvetica narrow style.
A motion was made by Committee Member Craig Wheeler to approve the project subject to the
following conditions:
1. Box for the new sign portion (each space on the vertical sign) be modified to mimic the
gold colored shape or form above so as to use the same gold material with a gold frame
around it to approximate the width of the frame of the box above it at its narrowest point.
Within that frame the new sign be constructed using the Rusty Leaf green faced stencil
over translucent white plastic.
2. The sign will comply with Orange Police Department requirements.
SECOND: Jon Califf
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, and Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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