03-19-2003 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
Wednesday, March 19, 2003
Committee Members Present: Jon Califf
Leonard Filner (Vice Chair)
Craig Wheeler
Joe Woollett (Chair)
Staff in Attendance: Jim Reichert, Planning Manager
Khanh Le, Recording Secretary
Committee Member Absent: None
Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M.
The committee met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 7:00 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 PM
REVIEW OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Committee Member Leonard Filner to approve the October 2, 2002 minutes
subject to the following corrections:
DRC 3716 Cingular Wireless, page 4, para -rg_aph 3, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Committee Member Leonard Filner asked if the vault had been lowered below grade, to which Mr.
Stotlemeyer answered yes, that it had the additional 12" to 3'.
Condition 1, sentence 1 amended as follows:
1. Plant 6 additional ~a'.,~r,;r,.~^r~^^° Washingtonia ~ robusta/Mexican Fan Palms with a
minimum height of 30' grew brown trunk height.
DRC 3747 Fieldstone Communities page 9 paragraph 2, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Committee Member W~1~ Filner asked if they were planning on denser plant material to increase the
depth.
DRC 3775 Salinas Residence Pale 10 para rg_aph 6, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Committee Member Leonard Filner asked if the trim pieces would look the same as the ~~
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Page 11, condition 1 amended as follows:
1. 2 x 4 rafters with 2 x 6 minimum barge boards (structural with ne out-riggers holding it) supported by
structural corbels.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Jon Califf, Leonard Filner, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
A motion was made by Committee Member Craig Wheeler to approve the November 20, 2002 minutes
subject to the following corrections:
DRC 3759 Alameda Market, page 3, Paragraph 3, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Committee Member Filner expressed the staff concern about the current high level of pedestrian activity
and the site plan does ~ note this.
Page 4, par_ a~raph 4, sentence 2 amended as follows:
Mr. Miller replied that the blueprint currently does not reflect it, but there is a plan for a balcony.
DRC 3788 Chanman University Leatherbv Libraries, pale 9, paragraph 6, sentence 2 amended as
follows
But because of the complexity of the landscaping requirements to compensate for the differences in the
building, the landscaping plans presented today ~s are not complete.
Sentence 3, amended as follows:
Also, what is presented today is the landscaping plan for the building while it's in its temporary st-a~ec~
state.
Page 11, paragraph 9, sentencel amended as follows:
Committee Member Wheeler asked the applicant to pay particular attention to the connection between
Oliphant and Bertea Halls.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Jon Califf, Leonard Filner, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollen to approve the December 4, 2002 minutes subject
to the following corrections:
DRC 3754 Nelson Commercial, pale 3, bullet 2 amended as follows:
1615-1649 W. Chapman Avenue (NEC Chapman & ~ Feldner)
Page 3, paragrraph 4, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Committee Member Filner expressed that the committee is looking for consistency in the designs of all
the signs.
Para rg_aph 7, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Committee Member Wheeler suggested that the
plans for the construction indicate the work will be done in one phase to which Mr. Nelson agreed.
DRC 3781 Citrus Communit~partments gage 7 paragraph 8, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Committee Chair Woollett commented that ~~~ the southeast corner treatment seems to be a
visual entrance, even though it's not an entrance.
DRC 3785 Kothari Dental Office, page 9, item 6 amended at follows:
6. Replace of a ~ r'^~~ ~~~°~~^~ ~ ^m stx the Sweet Gum with a more adequate and
appropriate tree type.
Paragraph 3, sentence 1 amended as follows:
Committee Member Filner said he does not ~e recommend any particular type of ground cover, as
long as there is a ground cover.
SECOND: Jon Califf
AYES: Jon Califf, Leonard Filner, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
A motion was made by Committee Member Leonard Filner to approve the January 22, 2003 minutes
subject to the following corrections:
DRC 3804 Centex Homes Casistas at Serrano page 6 Para rg_aph 3 sentence 3 amended as follows:
Comminee Member Wheeler expressed that he believes the aesthetics would be more enjoyable if there
were more variations.
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Paragraph 5, sentence 1 amended as follows:
A Committee Member asked about the window treatment and the rafters on the homes on Serrano Ave.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Jon Califf, Leonard Filner, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
A motion was made by Committee Member Jon Califf to approve the February 5, 2003 minutes as
submitted.
SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Jon Califf, Leonard Filner, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
The review and approval of the March 5, 2003 minutes was deferred to the April 2, 2003 meeting.
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DRC No. 3807-03 -ALAMEDA LAUNDROMAT
Proposal to redevelop an existing vacant lot with a 1,638 sq.ft. laundromat facility.
140 North Hewes Street
Staff Contact: Mario Chavez-Marquez, Assistant Planner
DRC Action: Final Determination
Continued from 3-5-03 meeting)
Chair Woollett addressed the agenda item, asking the applicants to present their project.
Mr. Ed Miller (6922 E. Monarch Way) and Mr. Marvin Miller (3212 E. Larkstone) presented the project.
Mr. Miller explained to the committee the changes that have been made since the last meeting, which
included the north elevation, the handicap parking, the roofline, the signage, the colors for the brick and
the concrete, and the landscaping.
Chair Woollett asked Mr. Miller to explain the roofline in relationship to the columns and the edge of the
foam in further detail, which he did.
Chair Woollett asked for additional information concerning the signage. Mr. Miller replied that it's a
channel sign approximately nineteen (19) feet by two (2) feet overall. He added that the final sign detail
would be submitted with the request for the permit.
The colors and tiles were then addressed. Mr. Miller stated that the brick will be a veneer, with the size
the same as what the sample shows. The committee then discussed the concrete color and decided that
the color needs to be something dark and something that would be integral to the design.
The Committee then discussed project landscaping. The committee suggested not using Eucalyptus trees
due to problems caused by various insects.
A motion was made by Committee Vice Chair Leonard Filner to approve the project subject to the
following conditions:
1) All six (6) Crape Myrtles be upsized to thirty-six (36) inch box from twenty-four (24) inches, and
changed to a standard form rather than multi-trunk.
2) One (1) street tree within the sidewalk along Hewes shall be installed per city standards and
guidelines.
3) Final landscaping and irrigation plans with notes shall be submitted.
4) Prior to submitting plans to the Building Division, the applicant shall revise the site plan to
provide a bicycle rack. The bicycle rack shall be located within proximity to the building
entrance. Bicycle racks are defined to be storage facilities with locking capabilities for a
minimum of five bicycles. Planning Staff shall verify this condition prior to submitting plans
for review.
5) Prior to submitting plans to the Building Division, detailed sign plans shall be submitted to
the Design Review Committee for final approval. All signage shall be integrated with the
proposed building and shall be deemed consistent with the current design theme.
6) Prior to submitting plans to the Building Division, decorative colored paving shall be added
to the walkway in front of the store and the walkway to the street. The concrete sidewalk
shall be colored to complement the brick veneer on the building. This change shall be verified
by Planning staff prior to issuance of building permits.
7) Prior to submitting plans to the Building Division, the concrete step pads shall be changed to
respond to the El Modena design standards and the overall "Spanish style" architecture of the
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proposed building. This change shall be verified by Planning staff prior to issuance of
building permits.
8) Prior to issuance of building permits, decorative lights shall be added to north, east, and west
elevations to improve the aesthetics and safety of these areas. The Planning Division shall
verify the lighting on the building plans prior to issuance of the building permits.
9) All construction shall conform in substance and be maintained in general conformance with
plans labeled Exhibit A (dated March 19, 2003) and as recommended for approval by the
Design Review Committee.
10) Prior to occupancy of the new Laundromat, all parking lot, signage, and landscaping
improvements shall be completed according to the approved plans and to the satisfaction of
the Community Development Director or designee.
SECOND: Jon Califf
AYES: Jon Califf, Leonard Filner, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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DRC No. 3759-02 - ALAMEDA MARKET
Construction of a new 5,008 square foot market and check cashing facility.
122 South Hewes Street
Staff Contact: Mario Chavez-Marquez, Assistant Planner
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Continued from 11-20/02 meeting)
Mr. Ed Miller (6922 E. Monarch Way) and Mr. Marvin Miller (3212 E. Larkstone) also presented this
project, addressing the following issues: the elevation, the signage, the colors, the parking situation, and
the landscaping.
Mr. Miller explained that the market would have the same design scheme as the Laundromat project. He
added that from the last meeting, there was a suggestion to shorten the parking spaces to provide some
sitting benches. He explained the benches and the landscaping that would double as a sitting are.
Chair Woollett commented that the other suggestion was to move the enclosure further west to allow for
an additional parking space in front of the enclosure, and also installing an additional planter. The
committee and the applicant discussed the parking and loading situation in further detail.
Vice Chair Filner addressed the landscaping and gave some suggestions.
Chair Woollett asked if the colors would be same as the Laundromat. Mr. Miller replied in the
affirmative and added that there will also be colored concrete.
Committee Member Wheeler and the applicant discussed the faux balcony in more detail.
A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the project subject to the following
conditions:
1) The southern most parking space in front of the market shall be converted into a planter and an
additional parking space be provided along the south property line.
2) The planter on the east end of the north property line shall be tapered so that it matches the
planter on the east end of south property line.
3) The circular raised planter adjacent to Hewes Ave shall be sixty (60) inches clear from inside to
inside.
4) The exterior concrete blocks shall be a color similar to the dark red brick used on building.
5) The planting area along the west property line in the southwest corner be increased in depth to at
least six (6) feet.
6) The Crape Myrtle trees be increased to thirty-six (36) inch box size and the Elm be increased to
forty-eight (48) inch box with deep-water irrigation.
7) Final drawings to include standard landscaping and irrigation plans with notes be submitted to
staff for final approval.
8) The faux balcony on the east side of building be offset twelve (12) inches from the face of
building.
9) The optional elevation shall not be used.
10) Prior to submitting plans to the Planning Commission, the applicant shall revise the site plan to
provide a bicycle rack. The bicycle rack shall be located within proximity to the building
entrance. Bicycle racks are defined to be storage facilities with locking capabilities for a
minimum of five bicycles. Planning Staff shall verify this condition prior to submitting plans for
review.
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ll) Prior to submitting plans to the Building Division, detailed sign plans shall be submitted to the
Planning Division for final approval. All signage shall be integrated with the proposed building
and shall be deemed consistent with the current design theme.
12) Prior to submitting plans to the Building Division, decorative colored paving shall be added to the
walkway in front of the store and the walkway to the street. The concrete sidewalk shall be
colored to complement the brick veneer on the building. This change shall be verified by
Planning staff prior to issuance of building permits.
13) All construction shall conform in substance and be maintained in general conformance with plans
labeled Exhibit A (dated March 19, 2003) and as recommended for approval by the Design
Review Committee.
14) Prior to occupancy of the new market, all parking lot, signage, and landscaping improvements
shall be completed according to the approved plans and to the satisfaction of the Community
Development Director or designee.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Jon Califf, Leonard Filner, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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