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02-20-2002 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES for Wednesday, February 20, 2002 Committee Members Present: Alice Angus Leonard Filner (Vice Chair) Susan Secoy Joe Woollett (Chair) Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator Debbie Ritchey, Recording Secretary Committee Member Absent: Mark Paone Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M. The committee met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at approximately 6:45 p.m. Regular Session - 5:30 PM REVIEW OF MINUTES: A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the minutes of January 9, 2002 subject to the following corrections: DRC #3587 - Valere Tardif page 2 paragraph 3 sentence 1 amended as follows: Committee Member Susan Secoy mentioned that there is are many beautiful examples around Old Towne of grass mow strips that are very well maintained, and they also add to the character of the property. Page 3 paragraph 6, sentence 1 amended as follows: Committee Chair Joe Woollett stated that the applicant has not responded to awe any of the committee's suggestions. Page 3 paragraph 7 sentence 2 amended as follows: She further explained that it is an unorthodox procedure to make the changes at the driveway that was not approved per the original plans. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 20, 2002 Page 2 REVIEW OF MINUTES (continued) DRC #3658 - Katella Commerce Center, page 5, paragraph 1, sentence 4 amended as follows: Also changed was the color of the awnings from green to taupe, as it seems to tie things together n,~h„io~ more nicely. SECONDED:Alice Angus AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woolett ABSENT:Mark Paone ABSTAINED:Susan Secoy NOES:None MOTION CARRIED A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the minutes of January 23, 2002 subject to the following corrections: DRC #3599 - KFC/A&W page 2, paragraph 1, sentence 4 amended as follows: At this presentation to the Design Review Committee he hopes to get some feedback to help him in making plans ~g that will make the committee happy and also the applicant. Page 2 paragraph 1, sentence 5 amended as follows: The applicant said that he had started with a 4,000 sq. ft. building but because of all of the restrictions t-bey he had to reduce the size of the building. Page 2 paragraph 2, sentence 1 amended as follows: Committee Chair Joe Woollett r~S recalled that there were some landscape +eSUes and afse-anr+tkt exterior appearance issues of with the ~ project. Page 2 paragraph 2, sentence 6 amended as follows: Typically with standard KFC's they have a standard red and white copula (~-?} and they have replaced that with Mission Tile. Page 2 paragraphs, sentence 2 amended as follows: He asked if the patterns and colors could be incorporated in a way '^ ~^~ that would fit in with the building better. Page 3 paragraph 2, sentence 1 amended as follows: Committee Member Joe Woollett suggested maybe one arch would be lowered. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 20, 2002 Page 3 REVIEW OF MINUTES (continued) Page 3, paragraph 3, sentence 2 amended as follows: Staff Member Chuck Lau gave a~ an example and interpretation of what the committee is suggesting as far as the combining the logos. DRC #3679 -Steak Escape/Checked Cashed page 2 condition1, sentence 2 amended as follows: The two on either side of the driveway can be a~-ept+e~ at the owner's discretion as long as they are 165-gallon size minimum. SECONDED:Alice Angus AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Joe Woolett ABSENT:Mark Paone ABSTAINED:Susan Secoy NOES:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 20, 2002 Page 4 DRC No. 3651 - LEROY ALLEN Revision front elevation of a previously approved new single-story residence within Old Towne. 633 E. Maple Avenue (Contributing Structure) Staff Contact: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner DRC Action: Final Determination Rick Anderson, Architect and Jack McGee, Consultant presented the project. Mr. McGee stated this project had been approved before the committee last Fall for a new single-story residence. They now need to modify the front elevation. All materials are the same. It is only the porch roof that has changes. Committee Member Leonard Filner wanted to make sure that the front setback requirement was being addressed. Mr. McGee answered that it was and an Administrative Adjustment had been filed prior to the meeting and has also been approved. The meeting was opened for public comments. Jeff Frankel Old Towne Preservation Association, 384 S. Orange Street - Mr. Frankel stated that the OTPA liked the original design much better than a shed roof. He also thinks it looks much better with a full, double gabled, front facade. He knows there are other examples in the neighborhood that do incorporate a shed style roof. Mr. McGee stated that the owner did drive around, and took a lot of pictures, finding many with the shed roof. Other alternatives were also looked at and one was a flat, single gable without any other detailing at all. That one did not seem to work well. Committee Member Susan Secoy stated that she has no problem with the proposed solution. She feels it's integral to the community. Committee Member Leonard Filner concurs. A motion was made by Committee Member Alice Angus to approve the project as submitted. SECOND:Joe Woollett AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Mark Paone ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 20, 2002 Page 5 2. DRC No. 3688 - STONEGATE SENIOR APARTMENTS Final landscape plans for a new 20 dwelling unit senior housing project. 170 N. Prospect Street Staff Contact: Chuck Lau DRC Action: Final Determination The project was continued to the March 6, 2002 meeting, due to a lack of quorum. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 20, 2002 Page 6 3. DRC No. 3689 -HILTON SUITES Remodeling of outdoor recreation area for an existing hotel to include a new swimming pool, new Jacuzzi, re-configuration of the parking lot, and addition of landscaping. 400 N. State College Boulevard Staff Contact: Mario Chavez-Marquez, Planning Aide DRC Action: Final Determination Ignatius Chau-Rosett, Gene Ong -Hilton, and Jill Guerrero presented the project. They had revised plans with them due to revisions required by the Health Department. The spa area has been expanded. They removed some parking spaces and relocated them into another area. They have added a 6-foot high perimeter wall and have also designed a new configuration for the pool. They have added additional trees per the requirements from previous meeting. Committee Member Leonard Filner asked about the trees, which were being re-located or transplanted. His concern was regarding one Ficus tree to be relocated and what the success rate was. Mr. Filner wanted them to know that if any of the re-located trees died within one year's time, the tree needs to be replaced with a 36-inch box, same kind of tree. Also, SRC has a concern about the landscaping along State College Blvd and are asking for additional landscaping. He stated he is satisfied with just the additional landscaping being in the perimeter of area being changed. Mr. Filner wanted them to understand the hierarchy of plants, low growing plants in front with the taller plants in back, but not to be taller than the wall. Presently it is a hedge in front of the wall, and they are looking for more than that (shrubbery, & foundation ground covers). Committee Member Susan Secoy stated that the architecture is an improvement of the existing conditions. A motion was made by Committee Member Leonard Filner to approve the project with the following conditions: 1. In the event that any of the evergreen trees do not survive within cone-year period, they shall be replaced with a 36-inch box like kind. 2. Provide additional foundation planting around the new wall surrounding the pool area (exterior of the wall facing State College Blvd.). 3. Submit final landscape plans to Community Services Department staff for review and approval. (Final Plan to include City required inspection notes) 4. Signage is included as part of project approval. SECOND: Susan Secoy AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Mark Paone ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 20, 2002 Page 7 4. DRC No. 3697 -ORANGE COMMUNITY OF CHRIST Expansion of an existing church facility to include a 3,990 sq.ft. building addition for a private school. 395 S. Tustin Street Staff Contact: Matthew Bassi, Senior Planner DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission Jim Corcoran of Corcoran and Corcoran presented the project and mentioned the different phases this project has gone through. The whole thing has taken about 5 years to get to the point they are at now with this building addition. Committee Member Susan Secoy noted that all materials and colors are to match the approved materials and colors. Committee Member Leonard Filner stated that with the addition, they are impacting the Magnolia tree. It appears that the tree will be removed. Removal of the Magnolia tree will require replacement with three additional trees (36 inch box). Committee Chair Joe Woollett asked what the cross was made out of. Mr. Corcoran answered that it was a glue laminate, painted white. There are four of them, all attached to the building and part of the structure. Committee Chair Joe Woollett also noted that fiber reinforced siding was being used everywhere which is extremely resilient. Mr. Corcoran stated that this was a very good item to be used, especially on the school. A motion was made by Committee Member Leonard Filner to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission subject to the following conditions: 1. Mitigation for the removal of the Magnolia tree shall be replaced with three 36-inch box size trees. (Species to be determined by the clients landscape architect) 2. Colors and finishes shall match the work that is currently being used for the sanctuary. 3. Submit final landscape and irrigation plans to Community Services Department staff for review and approval. (Final plans to include City required inspection notes) SECOND:Susan Secoy AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Mark Paone ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 20, 2002 Page 8 5. DRC No. 3702 -THE CREST AT SERRANO HEIGHTS (D.R. HORTON) New 122 dwelling unit single-family residential tract development Tract 14360 -Serrano Heights, Phase II (NWC Serrano & Nohl Ranch Rd) Staff Contact: Christopher Carnes, Senior Planner DRC Action: Final Determination Dan Boyd, representing D. R. Horton, and Steve Peck (architect) gave an overview of the project. The plans are to build 122 new single-family homes. The proposal included four models, three two- story and one single-story. The proposed site plans comply with the development standards contained in the Serrano Heights Specific Plan and the City's Zoning Ordinance. Committee Chair Joe Woollett discussed a concern with the front setbacks, having no variation and all being approximately 20 feet, the streetscape would have a wall appearance. To resolve the concern, he suggested that a varied front setback for the structures would create an interesting streetscape. Mr. Peck stated that it looked like they were holding to the 20-foot dimensions per the City standards. He explained that the Specific Plan allowed for measuring the structure's front setback from the back-of-sidewalk for front-on garages while habitable space is measured from the front property line. Mr. Boyd discussed the limitations, because of limited lot depth. He believes some of the lots could be redesigned to allow for deeper front setbacks than what is required by the Specific Plan. Mr. Peck discussed that the applicant provided the minimum front setback so as to create the largest rear yard as possible. Mr. Peck, Mr. Boyd and the Committee agreed that this change would create a more pleasant and interesting neighborhood. Committee Chair Joe Woollett said that he would like to see a variation in approximately a third of the homes. Committee Member Susan Secoy asked for clarification on the architectural treatment for side building elevations facing public streets on corner lots. Mr. Peck displayed exhibits that showed where the building materials used on the front building elevation are wrapped around the corner of the building and extend down the side wall until a change in wall plain or the rear yard fencing. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 20, 2002 Page 9 5. DRC No. 3702 -THE CREST AT SERRANO HEIGHTS (D.R. HORTON) -Continued A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to approve the project, subject to the following conditions: 1. Prior to issuance of building permits for the first phase of residential development; applicant shall submit conceptual tract fencing and landscaping plan for DRC review and approval. 2. Prior to issuance of building permits for the first phase of residential development; applicant shall submit final building plans for DRC review. This condition is to insure that the final plans are substantially similar to the conceptual plans considered by the DRC on February 20, 2002. 3. Final building plans to include a note that architectural treatment on residential structures on corner lots wrap around the street side elevation to either a change in the wall plane or rear yard fencing. 4. Site plan shall be revised to increase the front setback for one third of the new residential structures, a minimum of one foot. The increased setback is to be distributed equally throughout the project site. SECONDED: Leonard Filner AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woolett ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Mark Paone NOES: None MOTION CARRIED N:\C D D\P L N G\Council Commissions Committees\DRC\DRC 2002\02-20-02 drem.doc