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02-15-2006 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES -FINAL February 15, 2006 Committee Members Present: Jon Califf Bill Cathcart Donnie Dewees Craig Wheeler Joe Woollett Staff in Attendance: Leslie Roseberry, Planning Manager Christopher Carnes, Senior Planner Christine Kelly, Project Planner Dan Ryan, Senior Planner Sonal Thakur, Assistant Planner Howard Morris, Landscape Specialist Sharon Penttila, Recording Secretary Committee Member Absent: None Administrative Session - 5:00 P.M. The Committee met for an administrative session beginning at 5:00 p.m. The meeting adjourned at approximately 8:40 p.m. Regular Session - 5:30 P. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 2 1. DRC No. 3835-03 -MONTGOMERY RESIDENCE Request for exterior plan changes to an approved plan for a new, 2"d-story addition and facade remodel to anon-contributing single-family residence. 204 N. Waverly Street, Old Towne Orange Historical District Staff Contact: Dan Ryan, (714) 744-7224, drywn@cityoforange.org DRC Action: Final Determination Dan Ryan, Senior Planner, explained the project as stated in the staff report, which included six changes to the original submittal. Scott Montgomery, applicant, explained the use of the the and was willing to address the issue of the garage door design and the spark arrestor. Public Comment Jeff Frankel, address on file, explained that OTPA opposed this project from the beginning because they felt it didn't meet the standards. He stated it was redesigned into a Mediterranean style and it should be in keeping with the original plan for the chimney and the garage door. Janet Crenshaw, 280 N. Cleveland, agreed with Mr. Frankel. She questioned a small window that had been on the front of the house. Mr. Montgomery explained nothing had been stated in the City Council minutes regarding the window and it didn't happen. Committee Member Woollett felt the glass block issue was pertinent and previously voted for the project because he was assured it would not be "South County Spanish." He thought by approving the project it would set a precedent that not everyone would be comfortable with. He did agree with staff concerns on the spark arrestor and chimney. Mr. Montgomery explained the garage door had two separate issues -the arch and the garage door. The original plan had an arch drawn onto it but there was a problem with the weight of the roof. Committee Member Wheeler recalled that the only condition that was imposed on the roofing was that it be two-part the and the extra weight of the roof was due to the material actually used. Committee Member Dewees suggested there was a way to maintain the arch and wondered what that had to do with the door being metal now as opposed to wood as first proposed. Mr. Montgomery had surveyed an Old Towne area and determined 80% of the houses had panel, roll-up doors that were metal including the historic ones. Committee Member Califf felt the wood sectional door was problematic and required more maintenance. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 3 C Committee Member Wheeler did not have a problem with getting rid of arch on the garage door. Committee Member Dewees questioned why the front arches changed to segmented arches and not full arches. Committee Member Wheeler missed the shutters and there needed to be shutters on all four windows because they are identical sizes. Committee Member Dewees thought the chimney cap should be a decorative cap with a spark arrestor. Committee Member Wheeler complimented the applicant on the overhangs and the stucco finish. Committee Member Woollett made a motion to approve DRC 3835-03 with conditions listed in staff report and the following additional conditions: 1. Metal garage door be replaced by a wood door (square opening as installed is accepted on garage). 2. The exterior wood shutters be provided plus one additional pair of shutters on the window on the south elevation with the same size as the other windows. 3. Modification of the spark arrestor conform to the original design. 4. Shutters maybe added on the north end of the elevation. SECOND:Craig Wheeler AYES:Jon Califf, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:None ABSTAINED:Bill Cathcart MOTION CARRIED c City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 4 2. DRC No. 3988-OS METRO COURT REMODEL A request to change the accent color on two of the building facades facing Katella Avenue to a red tone from a green tone for two tenant suites on a recently approved DRC remodel concept for the entire commercial center. 428-622 West Katella Avenue Staff Contact: Anne E. Fox, 714-744-7229, afox(cr~,cit of~range.org DRC Action: Final Determination C Approved on the Consent Calendar) A motion was made by Committee Member Dewees to approve DRC 3988-OS as submitted, allowing the change of the accent color on two building facades facing Katella Avenue to a red tone from a green tone. SECOND: Joe Woollett AYES: Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None RECUSED: None MOTION CARRIED C City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 5 3. DRC No. 3983-OS - CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY VISITORS PARKIl~IG LOT A proposal to construct a visitors parking lot adjacent to the Chapman University Public Safety Building and demolish anon-contributing residential duplex structure within the Old Towne Historic District. 121 & 123 University Drive and 415 North Glassell Staff Contact: Christine Kelly, 714-744-7223, ckell~(a,cit of~ge.org DRC Action: Recommendation to the Community Development Director Christine Kelly, Project Manager, explained the project. She introduced the applicants, Ken Ryan from EDAW, Kris Olsen from Chapman University and Mark Hickner from EDAW. She explained there were two actions required on this project. In order to construct the visitor parking lot, it requires the demolition of a duplex on the property. The other action concerned the 17 parking stalls. The project is within the Chapman University Specific Plan and the Historic Preservation Design Standards for Old Towne. There is one minor modification for the spacing of the palm trees on Glassell in which they need to be spaced at 25 feet instead of 30 feet. Photometric studies will be submitted. Since it is within the Old Towne Historic District, the applicant met with OTPA and Orange Barrio Historic Society. The recommendation of the DRC will go to the Community Development Director for final determination. Mr. Ken Ryan explained the design of the project. Committee Member Cathcart recommended using a variety of Columbia or Bloodgood trees on the streetscape. Public Comment Janet Crenshaw, OTPA, stated that additional parking on campus is nice and Chapman always does a nice job landscaping. Howard Morns required placing irrigation and planting inspection notes on the plants. The following motions were made recommending approval of DRC 3983-OS to the Community Development Director. Committee Member Woollett made the motion to recommend approval of Item #1, the demolition of anon-contributing residential duplex structure. SECOND: AYES NOES ABSENT: RECUSED: MOTION Jon Califf Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett None None Donnie Dewees TARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 6 Committee Member Woollett made the motion to recommend approval of Item #2, the construction of a visitors parking lot with the following requirements: 1. Spacing of queen palms as recommended in staff report 2. Photometric studies 3. Irrigation and fencing plans 4. Use of the Columbia and Bloodgood varieties of Platanus Acerifolia, London Plane Tree SECOND: Jon Califf AYES: Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None RECUSED: Donnie Dewees MOTION CARRIED C C City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 7 4. DRC No. 4055-OS CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY ATHLETIC COMPLEX A proposal to construct a 36,906-square foot athletics pavilion, a 600-seat aquatics center and a 2000-seat stadium, as Phase 2 of a two-phase athletic field/parking structure/athletic complex project. South of Walnut Avenue, north of the Hutton Center, west of the Phase 1 subterranean parking structure and athletic field. Staff Contact: Christine Kelly, 714-744-7223, ckelly(~cityoforan e~.org DRC Action: Recommendation to the Community Development Director Christine Kelly presented the project. This is phase two of a larger complex, two-phase project which included the parking structure currently under construction. This item includes the actual athletic complex. Alighting plan will be submitted as a separate item. The project was presented to OTPA and Orange Barrio Historic Society. The project is consistent with the Chapman University Specific Plan. Before the issuance of building permits, plans will need to be submitted that demonstrate that all the roof top mechanical equipment is located at a distance from the edge of the building so it is not visible from a pedestrian level or from higher buildings. Also staff is recommending approval of some 8' fencing which is seen as part of the complex. The shade and shadow study found that there was no impact on the adjacent properties. Ken Ryan, EDAW explained this is phase two of the replacement of the old bleachers and the old trailers. He showed on the exhibits pedestrian access and other special features of the design including the portals on the bleachers. Public Comment Jeff Frankel, OTPA confirmed applicant did meet with OTPA and they went over the details except the minor changes. Committee Member Califf wanted to confirm that during a typical weekday, without a special event occurring, that the parking structure would be available to the general student population. That was confirmed. Committee Member Wheeler had a question on the street trees originally on Orange Street and was told those would be removed. Ms. Kelly confirmed that the committee members received the minor revisions to the elevations. Howard Morns requested that inspection notes be placed on the plans. Committee Member Califf moved to recommend approval of DRC 4055-OS to the Community Development Director with the staff recommendations and an additional requirement to have landscape inspection notes on the final landscape plans. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 8 SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Craig Wheeler, & Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None RECUSED: Donnie Dewees MOTION CARRIED C City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 9 5. DRC No. 4025-OS - LENNAR HOMES/DEL RIO - OLIVEGROVE Proposed building facades and building materials for a residential development. Planning Areas lA and 1B of the Del Rio Planned Community located west of Glassell Street and north of Lincoln Avenue Staff Contact: Christopher Carnes, (714) 744-7225, ccarnes@cityoforange.org DRC Action: Final determination Christopher Carnes, Senior Planner, explained that the proposal before the DRC was the architectural design and materials for 100 two-story, detached single-family homes that represent the first phase of development in the Del Rio Planned Community. The applicant, Lennar Homes, is proposing three different floor plans in three architectural styles: Spanish, Monterey, and Bungalow. Staff recommended approval of the proposal based on compliance with the Del Rio Design Guidelines, which establishes the design criteria for the Del Rio Planned Community. No Public Comment The DRC members reviewed with representatives of the applicants the proposed architecture and discussed revisions to the building elevations to bring consistency to styles, improvements to functioning of the building, and enhancing the side elevations of the buildings. Items reviewed included creating variety of appearance in the side elevation facing public streets by cantilevering the stairwell out from the wall as done on another model, improve the appearance of the roofs by grouping plumbing vents in one location and using ventilation vents that mimic the roofing material, adding a cover over the front door to provide shelter, and wrapping building veneer around the sides of elevations and adding an architectural feature to delineate the end of the siding material. The applicant explained that the three floor plans and architectural styles are being distributed equally throughout this project. Motion made by Craig Wheeler to approve DRC 4025-OS subject to those conditions in the staff report and the following additional conditions: 1. Siding with stone and brick treatments be returned at least two feet on the side elevations where practical and find a logical ending point for that return. 2. On Plan 1, Spanish elevation, the thin wall be widened. 3. On Plan 3, where the sides are visible, consider pushing out the stair wall to give more animation at the corner. 4. On Plan 2, Monterey, study entry door to find better cover for the entry. 5. On all plans where shutters are shown, shutters be proportioned to the size of the window opening. 6. On all plans, group plumbing vents where possible to limit roof penetrations. 7. Homes with the roof use a cloaked vent, such as O'Hagin vents. 8. On Plan 3, Spanish elevation, the head trim be removed or simplified. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 10 SECOND: Donnie Dewees AYES: Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None RECUSED: None MOTION CARRIED C City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 11 6. DRC No. 4028-OS HEIDARINIA EXTERIOR FACADE REMODEL Proposal to remodel exterior facade of an existing 2,100 square foot commercial building. 980 North Tustin Street Staff Contact: Sonal Thakur, 714-744-7239, sthakur~a~,cityoforange.org DRC Action: Final determination Sonal Thakur, Assistant Planner, introduced the project. Applicant explained they were only making modifications to the facade and adding more landscaping. No Public Comment Committee Member Califf asked if there were any changes to the lighting for the exterior of the site. The applicant replied that they would be preparing a photometric study of the lighting on the roof. Committee Member Woollett stated the Police Department required a certain amount of lighting. Applicant stated they would be mounting the lights to the parapet. Committee Member Wheeler mentioned the lights couldn't be above the parapet. Committee Member Califf had concerns that the lighting be integrated onto the building. Committee Member Woollett stated the lights would have to be a lens type fixture so light is controlled and not directed off the site. Committee Member Califf said they would be looking for a wall pack type fixture as opposed to a floodlight. Committee Member Wheeler noticed the site plan was showing the property line next to the mechanical enclosure and suggested applicant should check with the building department because it may not be allowed. Applicant indicated trash enclosure was shown on the new site plan. Committee Member Wheeler suggested the mechanical enclosure have a flat roof, he needed clarification on what happens to the stone veneer on the front and suggested a stone return. He also wanted to see more mass to the parapet. Committee Member Califf stated foam molding might be more successful than wood at the top of the building. Applicant will be using a real stone veneer treatment on the wall. Committee Member Dewees suggested using a different treatment on the wall, perhaps using a simple awning. Committee Member Wheeler confirmed that there would be a raised parapet on the front and the back elevations. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 12 Committee Member Dewees had concern with waterproofing the roof and also the building looks like a western facade. Committee Member Woollett stated they are required to evaluate the consistency of the building. Applicant indicated the railing would consist of steel tube. Committee Member Califf suggested the committee spell out the issues they are most concerned about, have applicant address those and resubmit, so the project would need to be continued. Committee Member Cathcart stated there was a lot of plant material on the plan which was a nice thing but would require a sophisticated irrigation system. He suggested next time to submit an irrigation plan and simplify the plan. Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to continue DRC 4028-OS with the following recommendations: 1. Look at changing the roof form of the mechanical enclosure to be a flat roof 2. Show actual parapets that applicant will be using both front and back with a return depth of at least four feet to give mass to the parapet 3. Show the cap on the top of the stone veneer 4. Clarify how the stone veneer returns and how far it returns on the sides 5. Simplify the north boxed areas and eliminate the arches and use square or rectangular columns to match the columns on the front 6. Simplify or remove the cornices 7. Show on submittal the parking lot lighting and actual light fixture that will be used 8. Give more information on the exterior railings, what they are made of and size 9. Provide irrigation information 10. Show channel reveals which are now shown as box outs 11. Look into simplifying the plant list SECOND: Donnie Dewees AYES: Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None RECUSED: None MOTION CARRIED C City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 13 7. DRC No. 4072-06 - GEHRKING GARAGE/APARTMENT REHAB Request for exterior and roof modifications to a garage/apartment rehabilitation. 218 S. Center Street, Old Towne Orange Historical District Staff Contact: Dan Ryan, (714) 744-7224, dryan@cityoforange.org DRC Action: Final Determination Dan Ryan, Senior Planner, explained the scope of the project which includes modifying the roof form, providing a new entrance, rebuilding new walls, recycling the siding, and change out of one door and a window. Mr. Gehrking, applicant, stated they originally intended not to touch anything on the exterior but after opening the walls, many problems were discovered. The slab was substandard on the shed roof addition. He further described the condition of the house and the proposed changes. Mr. Ryan stated staff only had three recommendations which include providing matching wood gable vents as required, relocate the new air conditioning unit to another approved location other than in the existing garage, and provide a drainage plan from the garage. Public Comments Janet Crenshaw, OTPA, stated this would be an improvement to the property and she liked the recommendations. Jeff Frankel, OTPA was glad to see applicant improving the property and trying to retain as much of the historic fabric as possible. He asked if the windows and doors would be wood. Applicant confirmed they would be. Committee Member Woollett said he visited the property and saw there was redwood siding and beaded siding on the garage and they would meet on the corners and a corner piece would be needed. Applicant said the gate would help hide the siding difference. Mr. Gehrking had a question about the placement of the air conditioner and wondered what the issue was with it being in the garage. Mr. Ryan said the issue was it's a substandard garage and they don't want to encroach anymore on the substandard size. Committee Members made some suggestions on a type and location of an air conditioning/heater unit that could be used in the structure. Committee Member Califf confirmed that one of the conditions included obtaining a building permit. Committee Member Woollett moved to approve DRC 4072-06 in accordance with staff recommendations. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 14 SECOND:Jon Califf AYES:Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:None RECUSED:None MOTION CARRIED C City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 15 8. DRC No. 4036-OS - BRADBURY RESIDENCE Proposal for demolition of a 357 sq. ft. garage, construction of a one-story accessory 2na unit, and a new three-car detached garage. 151 S. Waverly Street, Old Towne Orange Historic District Staff Contact: Dan Ryan, Senior Planner DRC Action: Recommendation to the Planning Commission Dan Ryan, Senior Planner, introduced the project. The project has been revised several times based on concerns with the accessory unit being atwo-story building with afour-car garage. However, the applicant made some adjustments to the scope of the project and it will now be a one-story development with athree-car garage. The tree on the property will be removed. The design of the structure matches the existing house. Staff supports the project. Mr. Bradbury explained the tree is a 30-year-old ash tree but it's not desirable. He will replace it with another type of tree. Public Comment Janet Crenshaw, OTPA, commented that when you stand on the sidewalk, all you see is the edge of the garage and she likes the fact that the materials match. She felt it was a good compromise on what was originally planned. Jeff Frankel, OTPA, stated it was commendable that the applicant reduced the size of the addition and the garage. He confirmed that the man door would be wood. Committee Member Califf asked if the applicant planned to have a wood roll-up garage door. He felt it could be problematic with a sectional wood door. Applicant stated he would like a one-piece door. Committee Member Wheeler wanted a note that clarifies that the door and window trim on the new construction will match the existing house as well as the rafter tails. Committee Member Dewees had the same comment regarding the fascia. Committee Member Dewees asked the applicant was he going to match the shade structure above the windows on the south side. Applicant said he could but mentioned they were bought at Sears. Committee Member Califf stated that the eave and rafter treatment needed to match the existing house. Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to recommend approval of DRC 4036-OS to the Planning Commission with conditions listed in the staff report and the following additional conditions: City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for February 15, 2006 Page 16 1. The door and window trim on the new construction match the door and window trim of the existing house. 2. The eave, barge and rafter tail conditions of the new construction match the existing house. 3. The garage doors be wood and can be either roll-up or single panel overhead doors. SECOND: Jon Califf AYES: Jon Califf, Bill Cathcart, Donnie Dewees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: None RECUSED: None MOTION CARRIED