01-19-2000 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
for Wednesday, January 19, 2000
Board Members Present: Leonard Filner
Mark Paone
Susan Secoy (Chair)
Joe Woollett (Vice Chair)
Board Member Absent: Jack McGee
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 8:00 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 PM
REVIEW OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Joe Woollett to approve the December 8, 1999 minutes with the
following corrections:
DRC No. 3453 -VILLA FORD: page 4, paragraph 1, sentence 2 amended as follows:
The is a final review of the landscape plans prior to plan check.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: Jack McGee
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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REVIEW OF MINUTES: (Continued)
A motion was made by Mark Paone to approve the December 22, 1999 minutes as submitted.
SECOND:Susan Secoy
AYES:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Jack McGee
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
A motion was made by Joe Woollett to approve the January 5, 2000 minutes with the following
corrections:
DRC No. 3502 - BRENT SEPULVEDA: page 8, paragraph 1, sentence 3 amended as follows:
Mr. Oslin has verified with the Fire Department that there are ~e no fuel modification
requirements for this site because it is surrounded with an existing irrigated manufactured
slope.
DRC No. 3503 - TEREZIA GIURGIU: page 9, paragraph 3, first bullet point, amended as
follows:
The building elevations appear flat. Suggest adding trim around windows to create shade
and shadow.
Submit revised plans to show
more articulation and architectural trim.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: Jack McGee
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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DRC No. 3475 -NORTH ORANGE CHRISTIAN CHURCH
Expansion of an existing Church facility
1001 E. Lincoln Avenue
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Continued from 12/22/99 meeting
The project was presented by Terry Jacobson -Architect, and Jim Liberio -congregation
member. The revised plans incorporate many of the suggested changes from the previous
meeting, including:
The use of grass-crete has been provided at the tandem spaces, and additional planting
fingers have been added in the parking lot to help soften the large expanse of paved areas.
The building footprints of adjoining residences are shown on the site plan, as well as plotting
of the existing trees.
Additional landscaping has been provide along the residential edge, particularly at the
outdoor playground area.
The roof design of the building has been revised to be more consistent with the existing
chapel. This was accomplished without exceeding the maximum 32 ft. height limitation. No
variance application is needed.
The building elevations have been revised to include the use of panel siding consistent with
the existing material used on the church building. The lower wainscot is painted precision
block for maintenance considerations.
The DRC appreciates the applicant's effort in being very responsive to the DRC's comments in
making this a better project. There are some concerns, however, with the use of Camphor
trees (Cinnamomum Vernum) in the parking lot. These trees tend to grow rather large, and can
potentially cause problems for some of the narrower planter areas. It is also suggested that a
standard tooled joint be applied to the precision block wainscot to accentuate the horizontal
lines of the building.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission
with the following conditions:
1. Replace the Camphor trees (Cinnamomum Vernum) with Brisbane Box (Tristania Conferta)
in narrow planter areas of the parking lot. Provide linear type root barriers to help prevent
potential surface root problems.
2. Apply horizontal-raked tool joint at precision block wainscot.
3. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final landscape and irrigation plans to
Department of Community Services for approval. Final plans to incorporate City required
inspection notes.
SECOND:Joe Woollett
AYES:Leonard Filner,
NOES:None
ABSENT:Jack McGee
ABSTAINED:None
Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
MOTION CARRIED
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2. DRC No. 3493 -MICHAEL & LINDA KELLER
Addition of five residential units on a property that contains an existing single family
residence in Old Towne
632 E. Culver Avenue (Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Continued from 12/8/99 and 12/22/99 meetings
Request for continuance by the applicant)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project.
SECOND:Mark Paone
AYES:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Jack McGee
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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3. DRC No. 3499 -ARTHUR BRIMLOW
Addition of six detached residential units on a property that contains an existing single
family residence in Old Towne
652 E. Culver Avenue (Contributing Structure)
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Continued from 12/22/99 meeting
Request for continuance by the applicant)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project.
SECOND:Mark Paone
AYES:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Jack McGee
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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4. DRC No. 3501 - PROTHERO ENTERPRISES, INC.
Sign program for an existing office building
1045 W. Katella Avenue
DRC Action: Final Determination
Continued from 12/22/99 meeting (Formerly submitted as Republic International
Marketing)
Applicant not present)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project.
SECOND:Joe Woollett
AYES:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Jack McGee
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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5. DRC No. 3502 - BRENT SEPULVEDA
New 2 story single family residence
518 Carlisle Place
DRC Action: Final Determination
Continued from 1/05/200 meeting
Approved as consent item)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approved the project as submitted
SECOND:Joe Woollett
AYES:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Jack McGee
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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6. DRC No. 3503 - TEREZIA GIURGIU
Conversion of an existing commercial building into a 28 bed elderly residential care
facility
1407 E. Collins Avenue
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Continued from the 1/05/2000 meeting
The project was presented by the owner Ms. Terezia Giurgiu, and the Project Designer, Mr.
John Bor. The revised plans incorporate the changes required by the SRC including elimination
of the northerly driveway along Lincoln Street, and relocation of the trash enclosure per Public
Works Department. Window trims have been added for the south and east building elevations,
and a new porch element has been added at the side door entrance along Collins Avenue. The
proposed roof material would be a concrete the similar to the Albertson's Supermarket across
the street. The outdoor courtyards have been further refined with landscaping and umbrella
tables, and new trees have been added in various locations. As for the issue of building
occupancy and exiting, the applicant will be meeting with the Building Division and the Fire
Department. The owner's intention is to first obtain approval of the proposed land use, then
revisit the design issues at a later date. The property is in escrow pending outcome of the
scheduled meeting with the Planning Commission in February.
Mark Paone reiterated his concerns from the previous meeting regarding the occupancy issue.
Exiting requirements may necessitate new doors to be added. This will significantly affect the
architecture of the building and require submitting the plans back to the DRC.
Susan Secoy stated that although she appreciates the applicant's effort in being sensitive to the
residential neighborhood, she is not comfortable with the proposed architecture and
landscaping as there is still a lot of work to be done on the design of the project. She does not
want to hold the applicant back from proceeding to the Planning Commission, but they are not
in the position of approving the architecture at this point.
The DRC stated that perhaps the project can be referred to the Planning Commission with a
condition that the architectural and landscape plans return to the DRC for final approval. The
design issues that still need to be resolved are as follows:
Exterior finish material and color palette have not been determined. Recommend that red
color roof tiles not be used.
The side access door along the south elevation is not the primary entrance to the building.
The access door should not be accentuated as it create confusion. Eliminate if possible.
Submit landscape plan. Delineate between existing and proposed new plant materials.
Landscaping should be placed closer to the building to help break-up and soften the
building. Suggest use of shade trees in courtyards.
Add planter area for vines along the east edge of the building. Be careful with the selection
of vines (twine, not cling type). Provide an espalier trellis for vines with separate irrigation.
indicate line of perimeter wall on elevation drawings to show how much is the building
exposed to public view. Also provide more detail of corner wall treatment.
The DRC agrees with the concept. However, based on the above stated concerns, it
appears that the proposed development may be too dense for the site.
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6. DRC No. 3503 - TEREZIA GIURGIU (Continued)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to refer review of the project to the Planning Commission with the
following condition:
Prior to issuance of building permits. Final site, building elevation and landscape plans shall
be submitted to the DRC for approval.
SECOND:Leonard Filner
AYES:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Jack McGee
ABSTAINED:None
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7. DRC No. 3504 - DIERK PETERS
Expansion of an existing industrial facility to include the addition of a 28,200 sq. ft.
manufacturing/warehouse bldg.
540 W. Grove Avenue
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Applicant not present)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to continue the project
SECOND:Leonard Filner
AYES:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Jack McGee
ABSTAINED:None
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8. DRC No. 3506 - CHAPMAN & MAIN CENTER
New freestanding sign for an existing retail center
NWC Chapman Avenue & Main Street
DRC Action: Final Determination
Approved as consent item)
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted
SECOND:Leonard Filner
AYES:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Jack McGee
ABSTAINED:None
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9. DRC No. 3507 -SISTERS OF ST. JOSEPH OF ORANGE
New replacement 80 unit senior residential facility
480 S. Batavia Street
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by Wolfgang Hack and John Paris with Hill Partnership, Inc. -
Architecture, and Robert Talafus with Wagner Halladay Inc. -Engineers. The proposal is to
construct a new senior facility in the existing open space area located northeast of the Mother
House. This will replace the existing "Regina House" which would be demolished when the new
facility is completed and occupied. The area of the Regina House will then be converted to an
outdoor garden area. Many of the existing trees will be relocated to another location off-site.
The DRC commented as follows:
The DRC supports the proposed project. The architecture is understated and sensitive to
the existing facility.
Coordinate building elevation and roof plans with building floor plan layout. Submit all 4
sides of the building elevation plans to the DRC for final approval.
The quality of the exterior space as it exists is very powerful. How does the project
proposes to continue this statement?
There are concerns with the loss of open space and particularly the existing mature trees
which add to the intriguing character of the site. Are there any opportunities to save some
of these trees and relocated on site (to the new garden area) rather than moving them to
another location off-site?
There are approximately 45 to 50 existing trees that will be affected by this project. The
proposed landscape plans should include some type of mitigation measure to help reduce
its impact.
Submit conceptual plans of the next phase, including landscape, hardscape and builtscape
to show how the project all ties together with the existing facility. Also, more information on
the history of the site would be helpful to the DRC to better understand the overall scope of
the project.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to recommend approval of the project to the Planning Commission
with the following condition:
1. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final plans to DRC for approval. Final submittal
to include additional photographs of the architectural detailing used for the Mother House
and the Healthcare Systems office building.
SECOND:Mark Paone
AYES:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Jack McGee
ABSTAINED:None
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10. DRC No. 3508 - VOIT COMMERCIAL BROKERAGE
Conversion of a former restaurant to commercial office
3500 Orangewood Avenue
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by William Malcomb -Architect. The proposal is to renovate and
convert an existing building previously used as a restaurant into a professional office. The
intent is to refurbish the exterior with a smooth plaster finish, new reflective glass and replace
the metal roofing. This is to create more of a corporate appearance to match the existing high-
rise building. The landscape and hardscape will also be modified to be more cohesive with the
rest of the existing center. Signage will be submitted separately at a later date.
The DRC supports the direction of the project in terms of its aesthetics.
MOTION by Susan Secoy to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. New reflective glass shall match the existing glass used for the high-rise building.
2. Submit final landscape and irrigation plans to Community Services Department for approval.
Final plans to include City required inspection notes.
SECOND:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAINED:
Joe Woollett
Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
None
Jack McGee
None
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