01-10-2001 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
for Wednesday, January 10, 2001
Committee Members Present: Alice Angus
Leonard Filner
Mark Paone
Susan Secoy (Chair)
Joe Woollett (Vice-Chair)
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Committee Member Absent: None
Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 7:35 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 PM
REVIEW OF MINUTES:
MOTION was made by Susan Secoy to approve the December 20, 2000 minutes as submitted.
SECOND:Joe Woollett
AYES:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAINED:Alice Angus
MOTION CARRIED
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1. DRC No. 3604 - STARBUCKS COFFEE
Signage for a new Starbucks Coffee with drive-thru lane
3630 E. Chapman Avenue
DRC Action: Final Determination
Continued from 12/20/00 meeting)
The project was presented by Malcolm Hail with Promotional Signs. The proposal is to install 3
new sets of wall signs for an existing building (formerly Kentucky Fried Chicken) that is being
converted into a Starbucks Coffee. Also included is a new freestanding menu board sign, 2
directional signs, and an overhead clearance sign.
Susan Secoy noted that the new submittal includes the addition of a raceway for the 3 new wall
signs. Will the raceways be painted to match the new building fascia color?
Malcolm Hail stated that the added raceway is a building code requirement because the
transformer must be accessible. The raceway would be painted to match the new fascia color.
MOTION was made by Mark Paone to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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2. DRC No. 3606 -MOVIE HOUSE DINER
Signage for a new restaurant tenant at the Stadium Promenade
1623 W. Katella Avenue, Ste. #200
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by the owner Roger Banowetz and Dean Bakshi with Mega Bright
Signs. The proposal is to install 3 new signs for the new Movie House Diner restaurant at the
Stadium Promenade. The primary sign has 2 sides that sandwich the new fin wall. The other 2
wall signs are installed along the east and west elevations.
The DRC discussed the signage construction details with the applicant and sign contractor.
MOTION was made by Mark Paone to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. The proposed signage is approved per the construction details shown on the submitted
blueprint exhibits.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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3. DRC No. 3607 -GEORGE ADAMS
New custom single family residence
462 Carlisle Place
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by the property owner George Adams Jr. and his architect David
York. The proposal is to construct an 8,260 sq.ft. custom single family residence at Prospect
Hills (Tract 13913 Lot 16). The property has astepped-down building pad area, and a rather
narrow frontage at the end of a cul-de-sac street. This necessitated the placement of the
garage at the lower pad level to avoid having the driveway and garage from taking up the entire
front yard area. The architectural style is Italian-Mediterranean.
Susan Secoy stated that the proposed building elevations, color palette and exterior finish
materials are acceptable as presented. She visited the site and saw that the view was
spectacular from this property. A site section drawing is still needed to show the house in
context with the properties from Orange Park Boulevard below, and to better understand how
the proposed landscaping works in this application.
George Adams stated that only the top part of the house would be seen from below because
the lot is tucked away from the hill.
Leonard Filner raised concerns with the use of hydroseed mix on the down slope areas. The
plant spacing cannot be controlled adequately, and it would create a maintenance problem.
Also of concern is the use of Gazanias as a ground cover in large open areas along the
driveway and in the backyard. These are not recommended because it is only ashort-term
ground cover that will not fill adequately. Perhaps the use of Myoporum and/or Lantana in one
gallon size may be more suitable for this application. All planting sizes and quantities should be
specified on the landscape plans. Another minor correction is to re-label fuel modification zone
C" to "D" on the landscape plans.
Mark Paone agreed and further commented that although hydroseed might be a good idea for
other applications, it does not work well on this particular project.
David York replied that the fuel modification slopes are already planted and irrigated as it exists.
He has contacted the Fire Department and is still waiting for their comments.
Leonard Filner stated that the construction of a new house on the property will likely require
extending out the existing fuel modification zones.
Howard Morris asked that the architect set up a meeting with the Fire Marshall and himself at
the site to verify existing field conditions to determine if the existing fuel modification areas need
to be revised or upgraded.
MOTION was made by Mark Paone to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. The building elevations, color palette and exterior finish materials are approved as
submitted.
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3. DRC No. 3607 -GEORGE ADAMS (Continued)
2. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final landscape plan to DRC for approval.
Final plans to specify all plant sizes, spacing and species per discussion above.
Applicant to obtain approval from the Fire Department, prior to submitting revised plans
to the DRC.
3. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit a site section drawing to DRC for approval.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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4. DRC No. 3608 -TOYOTA OF ORANGE
Remodeling and addition for an existing automobile dealership
1400 N. Tustin Avenue
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by William Mason, Architect. The proposal is to add 1,303 sq.ft. of
ground floor showroom and conference room area, and 770 sq.ft. of mezzanine storage area.
Also proposed is a building fagade remodeling to update the dealership to Its "Image 2000"
package. The proposal includes new wall signage along the front (east) building elevation. The
front lawn display area would be modified with the addition of turf blocks to facilitate the moving
of display vehicles. This is the first phase of a larger project to construct other improvements
throughout the entire site.
Susan Secoy stated that the proposed remodeling would be an improvement over the existing.
MOTION was made by Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND: Mark Paone
AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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