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01-09-2002 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES for Wednesday, January 9, 2002 Committee Members Present: Alice Angus Leonard Filner (Vice Chair) Susan Secoy Joe Woollett (Chair) Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator Debbie Ritchey, Recording Secretary Committee Member Absent: Mark Paone Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M. The committee met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at approximately 6:30 p.m. Regular Session - 5:30 PM REVIEW OF MINUTES: A motion was made by Committee Member Alice Angus to approve the minutes of December 5, 2001 subject to the following corrections: DRC #3688 Stonegate Senior Apartments page 4 paragraph 3 sentence 1: amended as follows: Committee Member Mark Paone asked if an ~S EIFS (Exterior ~~^~°" '^°~~'~+~^^ Insulation Finish System) would be used for the building, which has a smooth exterior plaster finish. Paragraph 8, sentence 1 amended as follows: Ms Secoy stated that they would further study some of the design issues that were raised at #i-s this meeting. SECOND: Leonard Filner AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Mark Paone ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for January 9, 2002 Page 2 DRC No. 3587 - VALERE TARDIF Relocation and modification of a new detached garage for a refurbished Craftsman Bungalow residence that was recently moved-on to the site from another location. 151 S. Harwood Street Staff Contact: Daniel Ryan -Senior Planner, Historic Preservation DRC Action: Final Determination Continued from 12-5-2001 & 12-19-01 meetings) Mr. Valere Tadiff and his son Andy Tardiff, presented the project and showed landscape plans. Committee Member Alice Angus asked if the width of the driveway had been cut back at all. Mr. Valere Tardiff answered no; they would be looking at the entire driveway, as it exists. He felt that the mow strip would destroy the integrity of the pavers. The original plan was to put in a concrete driveway, but had too many problems with the concrete cracking. With the pavers, it is a permanent driveway and will not crack. He just doesn't like the idea of a mow strip. Committee Member Susan Secoy mentioned that there are many beautiful examples around Old Towne of grass mow strips that are very well maintained, and they also add to the character of the property. Mr. Andy Tardiff asked if it was really that important to have the mow strip. His parents really don't want it, but it sounds like the committee really does. If the committee really does want it, the only thing they can do is to go back to the original plan, which was already approved. Committee Member Leonard Filner noted that there is now a wider landscape area with smaller trees and a blue spruce, which grows to 60-70 feet tall. It is recommended that the growth of such a large tree be watched, as it is in narrow planting area close to the property line. Mr. Andy Tardiff stated that he would just remove it from the plans, as he did not know the blue spruce grew that tall. Committee Chair Joe Woollett stated that the location of the garage was not a big issue with the committee members. The main concern is the appearance of the historic house. It's not a personal preference, but the committee needs to be sensitive to the design characteristics of the Historic Old Towne area. Mr. Valere Tardiff felt that the operative word "sensitive" is open to all kinds of interpretations. Committee Chair Joe Woollett stated that the suggestion of creating a mow strip was a compromise, and that if they went strictly by the guidelines, the pavers would not be allowed at all. The driveway would all be concrete. The committee is just trying to administer the guidelines with some equanimity. City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for January 9, 2002 Page 3 1. DRC No. 3587 - VALERE TARDIF (Continued) Committee Member Leonard Filner is familiar with the pavers and said there is a way that you can maintain the opening with a metal edge, barely visible from the surface. Mr. Andy Tardiff asked about a single strip down the center of the pavers, because there is enough room there for 2 cars. Committee Member Susan Secoy thinks that it would help. The committee is trying to keep the character of Old Towne. By introducing a softer landscape element, it would help to mitigate the appearance. Mr. Valere Tardiff did not want to consider any of the options. He had very strong feelings against a mow strip. Committee Member Alice Angus believes the driveway needs some softening, and she understands Mr. Valere Tardiff's concerns. Perhaps there is a ground cover that doesn't require the same type of maintenance as grass and that is more durable. Committee Chair Joe Woollett stated that the applicant has not responded to any of the committee's suggestions. As such, the project as presented would not be approved because it is not consistent with the style of the building. Committee Member Susan Secoy explained that the reason this project came back to the committee is because it is very different from what was originally approved. She further explained that it is an unorthodox procedure to make the changes at the driveway that was not approved per the original plans. A motion was made by Committee Chairman Joe Woollett to continue the project. SECOND:Alice Angus AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Mark Paone ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for January 9, 2002 Page 4 2. DRC No. 3669 -DONALD BERNARD New replacement brick staircase at the front porch of an existing Craftsman residence in Old Towne. 230 S. Grand Street (Contributing Structure) Staff Contact: Daniel Ryan -Senior Planner, Historic Preservation DRC Action: Final Determination Continued from 11-21-01 meeting) A request from the applicant was received to continue the item) A motion was made by Committee Chair Joe Woollett to continue the project. SECOND:Susan Secoy AYES:Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES:None ABSENT:Mark Paone ABSTAINED:None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for January 9, 2002 Page 5 3. DRC No. 3658 - KATELLA COMMERCE CENTER Reconstruction of a 2-story 34,400 sq. ft. mixed-use industrial building with site landscaping. 1744 W. Katella Avenue Staff Contact: Mario Chavez-Marquez -Planning Aide DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission Continued from 12/19/2001 meeting) Mr. Paul Toberty, applicant and Mr. Jim Dietze, Architects Orange presented the project and changes that have been made since the previous DRC meeting. The changes are primarily with the building elevations. They are proposing to use the same color that is currently on the buildings. Also changed was the color of the awnings from green to taupe, as it seems to tie things together more nicely. The two buildings in front have a mixture of different styles with some traditional elements. The proposed new concrete tilt-up building is a contemporary style with some traditional elements such as cornices and moldings. Committee Member Susan Secoy stated that the colors are very sympathetic to what exists out there and she doesn't have a problem with the departure architecturally. She is in support of the project in the direction it's going. A motion was made by Committee Member Susan Secoy to approve the project. The approval was based on the following finding: The project design upholds community aesthetics through the use of an internally consistent, integrated design theme and is consistent with all adopted specific plans, applicable design standards and their required findings. SECOND: Leonard Filner AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Mark Paone ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED City of Orange -Design Review Committee Meeting Minutes for January 9, 2002 Page 6 4. DRC No. 3692 -EASY LIFE FURNITURE New wall sign for a retail tenant within an existing shopping center. 1536 E. Katella Avenue Staff Contact: Chuck Lau -Associate Planner DRC Action: Final Determination Mr. Ky Quach and Mr. Peter Dang from Sharp Sign & Awning presented the project. A discussion of the sign and the colors, lettering, and size of channel letters followed. A motion was made by Committee Member Susan Secoy to approve the project subject to the following conditions: 1. Omit notes 2 and 3 on the signage plans 2. On note number 6, clarify the color as Aruba Blue. 3. Channel letters shall be 5 inches in depth. 4. The vertical fascia (note #6) shall be re-surfaced by removal of the aluminum applique's for a smooth surface as a background. The approval was based upon the following finding: 1. The proposed signage utilizes materials, colors, and design motifs that are compatible with the building that is being identified. SECOND: Alice Angus AYES: Alice Angus, Leonard Filner, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett NOES: None ABSENT: Mark Paone ABSTAINED: None MOTION CARRIED DRC 01-09-02 Minutes