12-20-2000 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
for Wednesday, December 20, 2000
Committee Members Present: Leonard Filner
Mark Paone
Susan Secoy (Chair)
Joe Woollett (Vice-Chair)
Staff in Attendance: Chuck Lau, Associate Planner
Howard Morris, Landscape Coordinator
Committee Member Absent: Alice Angus
Administrative Session - 4:30 P.M.
The board met for an administrative session beginning at 4:30 p.m. The meeting adjourned at
approximately 6:30 p.m.
Regular Session - 5:30 PM
REVIEW OF MINUTES:
MOTION was made by Leonard Filner to approve the December 6, 2000 minutes with the
following corrections:
DRC #3587 -Valare Tardif Page 4, condition 2 amended as follows:
2. Final plan to include the following note to the front window: "Existing window to be replaced
with a new single plane pane glass window in kind as the original window.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: Alice Angus
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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DRC No. 3593 - ALBERTSON'S
New 50,000 sq.ft. grocery store located within an existing retail center
4550 E. Chapman Avenue
DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
The project was presented by Roger Watson representing Albertson's, and Vasilis Papadatos
with Perkowitz and Ruth Architects. The proposal is to demolish an existing Sav-on Drug Store
and adjacent retail buildings and construct a new ±50,000 sq.ft. grocery store. The project has
been scheduled for public hearing before the Planning Commission on January 15, 2001.
Susan Secoy asked if the tower element could be extended outwards from the building to create
a pedestrian walkway underneath? This could result is a loss of several parking stalls, however,
the parking layout at the southeast corner of the site could be re-configured to create additional
parking stalls to make-up for the loss.
Mark Paone raised concerns with shopping cart storage. Will the carts be stored inside the
building or outside? He would also like to see some landscape elements to help soften the front
of the northeast corner of the building.
Roger Watson thinks that the carts would be stored inside the building, but could not confirm at
this time. If the carts are to be stored outside, then they would submit a plan to show how it
would be handled.
Leonard Filner is comfortable with the planting palette as proposed. He is not concern with
having tall planting materials in front of the building because there is already sufficient
landscaping in the parking area that will catch your eyes before the building. He would not
recommend the use of any large canopy shade trees. Perhaps they can continue with the use
of Rhaphiolepis `Majestic Beauty' along the front of the building.
MOTION was made by Mark Paone to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. Prior to issuance of building permits, submit final plans to DRC for approval.
2. Revise building elevations by shifting the tower element at the corner of the building west,
and create pedestrian walkway underneath. (Submit elevations of all 4 sides of the building)
3. Provide landscape element along the north side of the building in front of the potential
outdoor cart storage area.
4. Site plan to show shopping cart collection points within the parking lot.
SECOND:Susan Secoy
AYES:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Alice Angus
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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2. DRC No. 3597 -EXTENDED STAY AMERICA
Signage for a new 4-story hotel at Stadium Promenade
1635 W. Katella Avenue
DRC Action: Final Determination
The project was presented by Kevin and Nancy Parker with Swain Signs. The proposal is to
install wall signs, a monument sign, and directional signs for the new Extended Stay America
hotel at the Stadium Promenade.
Susan Secoy asked for clarification of Sign `E' and Sign `F'.
Kevin Parker replied that both Sign `E' have been omitted from the plans. Sign `F' which is a
monument sign is still part of the proposal.
Mark Paone is of the understanding that Sign `F' cannot be reviewed at this time because it
requires the approval of a sign program fora `Major Commercial Center' through a Conditional
Use Permit process with the Planning Commission. The applicant needs to coordinate with the
owners of the shopping center to provide a comprehensive program for the entire center.
MOTION was made by Mark Paone to approve the project with the following conditions:
1. The proposed wall signs (Signs A, B, C & D) are approved as submitted.
2. The proposed directional signs are NOT approve at this time. The applicants are directed to
coordinate all signage proposals with the owners of the shopping center for submittal of a
comprehensive sign program for the entire center.
SECOND: Leonard Filner
AYES: Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: Alice Angus
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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3. DRC No. 3604 - STARBUCKS COFFEE
Signage for a new Starbucks Coffee with drive-thru lane
3630 E. Chapman Avenue
DRC Action: Final Determination
Applicant not present)
MOTION was made by Mark Paone to continue the project.
SECOND: Susan Secoy
AYES: Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSENT: Alice Angus
ABSTAINED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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4. DRC No. 3605 - PAYLESS SHOESOURCE
New replacement wall sign for an existing retail shoe store
2139 N. Tustin Street
DRC Action: Final Determination
Approved as Consent Item)
MOTION was made by Susan Secoy to approve the project as submitted.
SECOND:Joe Woollett
AYES:Leonard Filner, Mark Paone, Susan Secoy, Joe Woollett
NOES:None
ABSENT:Alice Angus
ABSTAINED:None
MOTION CARRIED
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