12-05-2007 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES -FINAL
5 December 2007
Committee Members Present: Jon Califf
Donnie DeWees
Craig Wheeler
Joe Woollett
Committee Members Absent: Bill Cathcart
Staff in Attendance: Leslie Aranda-Roseberry, Planning Manager
Ted Reynolds, Assistant City Attorney
Gary Sheatz, Assistant City Attorney
Dan Ryan, Senior Planner Historic Preservation
Sharon Song, Assistant Planner
Sonal Thakur, Assistant Planner
Howard Morris, Senior Landscape Coordinator
Sandi Dimick, Recording Secretary
Administrative Session - 5:00 P.M.
The Committee met for an administrative session beginning at 5:05 p.m.
Chair Wheeler opened the Administrative Session with a review of the Agenda.
Item No. 3, Matthews Residence: Ms. Aranda-Roseberry, Planning Manager, stated the
Assistant City Attorney, Gary Sheatz, had given the Committee additional information to review
and during the public meeting legal opinions could be discussed with the applicant present. Mr.
Sheatz stated the other government codes and health and safety code items could be discussed
during the public meeting. Committee Member Woollett stated he would like a further
explanation on the paragraph from Lois Wolk that specifically addressed Design Review for
aesthetic purposes.
Chair Wheeler asked if there was anything to discuss regarding policy and procedures. Ms.
Aranda-Roseberry stated the next DRC Meeting had an agenda of 10 items thus far and she was
looking at reducing the number of items. Chair Wheeler stated he may have jury duty during the
week of the next meeting, and if he was called he might be able to get back in time. Ms. Aranda-
Roseberry stated she would be looking to place items on the consent calendar for the next
meeting. She also stated that Committee Member Cathcart had a conflict and would not be
present at tonight's meeting.
The Committee Members reviewed the minutes from the October 3, 2007 meeting. They noted
changes and corrections needed.
Committee Member DeWees made a motion to adjourn the Administrative Session.
Administrative Session adjourned at 5:20 p.m.
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SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Bill Cathcart
MOTION CARRIED.
Regular Session - 5:30 P.M.
The meeting adjourned at approximately 7:15 p.m. to the next regular scheduled meeting on
Wednesday, December 19, 2007.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
Opportunity for members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on
matters not listed on the Agenda.
No public attendees addressed the Design Review Committee on matters not listed on the
Agenda.
CONSENT ITEMS:
All matters that are announced as Consent Items are considered to be routine by the
Design Review Committee and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate
discussion of said items unless members of the Design Review Committee, staff or the
public request specific items to be removed from the Consent Items for separate action.
1) APPROVAL OF MINUTES: October 3, 2007
Committee Member Califf made a motion to approve the minutes of October 3, 2007 with
changes as noted.
SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Bill Cathcart
MOTION CARRIED.
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AGENDA ITEMS:
2) DRC No. 4300-07 - EL CAMINO REAL PARK RENOVATION
A proposal for renovation of facilities and softball fields. Demolition and replacement
of existing concession/community building with new community building.
400 N. Main Street
Staff Contact: Sharon Song, 714-744-7243, sbaik@cityoforange.org
DRC Action: Recommendation to the City Council
Assistant Planner, Sharon Song, gave a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Applicants, Don Amerson and Almabeth Benitez, addresses on file, were present to answer
questions from Staff.
Public Comment
None.
Chair Wheeler opened the item for Committee discussion.
Committee Member Woollett asked what prompted the project.
Community Services Manager, Bonnie Hagen, came forward to address the Committee. She
stated the park was built in the early 1970's and it was time to renovate the facilities, as there had
not been any renovations completed at the park. The function of the girl's softball program had
four fields, with only two of them being lit, and one of the renovations would be to reconfigure
the fields into a cloverleaf configuration.
Chair Wheeler, referring to page LC7, asked if the trellis tubes would be closed at the ends. Ms.
Benitez stated the plans noted end caps.
Chair Wheeler, referring to page A2.4, stated on the roof plan of the Community Building he
wanted to ensure the roof well was deep enough to hide the mechanical equipment, and asked if
the roof was depressed into the framing.
Mr. Amerson stated it was depressed down into the framing and he would make sure the
mechanical equipment was not visible.
Chair Wheeler stated he felt the colors should be more fun and suggested the applicant could
look at another color scheme. Committee Member Woollett stated he agreed with the use of
brighter colors.
Ms. Song asked if they wanted to add a condition to the colors used. Chair Wheeler stated the
Committee would be making a recommendation to try some other color schemes. On the
stainless steel metal roof, another color could be used which would have a glaze coating.
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Committee Member DeWees stated there was no 8.4 sheet, which would call out the size of the
wood trim at the face, and asked what the size would be.
Mr. Amerson stated it was a 2' x 6'. Committee Member DeWees asked if there had been any
thought to make it a four-inch band of CMU, instead of wood trim. He added wood trim tended
to get wet and warped and fell apart rather quickly, and using CMU at that level would be an
option.
Ms. Song asked for suggestions on the color scheme. She presented photos of the color palette
that was proposed for the project.
Chair Wheeler stated the thinking on the color scheme may have been to fit the building back
into the landscape. Committee Member DeWees stated there was not too much landscape and
the colors used were earth tones, more of a color scheme used in a mountain setting.
Ms. Song stated they could use less muted beige tones and something brighter.
Ms. Benitez stated in choosing a color scheme they needed to be sensitive to the residents.
Committee Member Woollett stated there was good justification to use a muted scheme and there
could be just as much justification for a brighter color scheme. Chair Wheeler suggested
stronger colors, not necessarily more colors.
Committee Member Woollett made a motion to recommend DRC No. 4300-07, El Camino Real
Park Renovation, to the City Council with the following suggestion:
1. A brighter color scheme be developed.
SECOND: Donnie DeWees
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Bill Cathcart
MOTION CARRIED.
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3) DRC No. 4263-07 - MATTHEWS RESIDENCE
A proposal to install an electrical solar system on a contributing residence.
182 N. Cambridge Street, Old Towne Historic District
Staff Contact: Dan Ryan 714-744-7224, divan a,cityoforange.org
Applicant is requesting a final determination on the same proposal as submitted on
October 17, 2007 (no change in proposal)
DRC Action: Final Determination
Historic Preservation Senior Planner, Dan Ryan, stated the applicant was not present and he had
attempted to contact the applicant with no response received.
Committee Member Califf made a motion to continue DRC No. 4263-07, Matthews Residence.
SECOND: Donnie DeWees
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Bill Cathcart
MOTION CARRIED.
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4) DRC No. 4284-07 -CARSON RESIDENCE
A proposal to construct a new detached 596 square foot accessory second housing unit.
1598 N. Clinton Street
Staff Contact: Sonal Thakur, 714-744-7239, sthakur~c~cityoforan~e.org
DRC Action: Recommendation to the Zoning Administrator
Assistant Planner, Sonal Thakur, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Applicant, Ron Larson, address on file, stated the driveway could handle four cars without any
problem, and felt the variance was necessary.
Ms. Thakur stated Staff was recommending approval of the variance, as there was no other
option or alternative for the parking spaces to be accommodated.
Ms. Aranda-Roseberry stated to amplify with Ms. Thakur's comment, what was looked at with a
variance would be to see if there was something unique about the property that would prevent the
actual permit from being fulfilled. In looking at the site plan the property was not a regular size
or shaped lot, and that was what was looked at in preparing the variance.
Public Comment
None.
Chair Wheeler opened the item for Committee discussion.
Committee Member Woollett stated he felt the unit was fine. In reviewing the elevations he
suggested the windows be trimmed to match the existing house.
Mr. Larson stated he planned to match the existing structure.
Chair Wheeler stated the house looked like it had square cut eaves and the elevation showed
plumb cut eaves. The house had eaves perpendicular to the roofline and he felt the eaves on the
new unit should match. On the accessory second unit he suggested a covering over the entry.
The house had all gables and he recommended on the new unit, for compatibility, to remove the
hip and just have all gables. A box-out could be added at the corner and it could be the visible
end of the building.
Committee Member Califf stated he agreed with the suggestion on the entryway.
Senior Landscape Coordinator, Howard Morris, suggested that the applicant note on the site plan
that any new landscaping shall have an irrigation plan.
Chair Wheeler made a motion to recommend DRC No. 4284-07, Larson Residence, to the
Zoning Administrator with the conditions found in the Staff Report, and the additional
conditions:
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1. Landscape/irrigation plans be noted in the drawings.
2. Window trim on the accessory unit shall match the window trim of the existing house.
3. Accessory unit to have a gable roof.
4. An extended eave be provided over the entry
5. Eave design shall be square cut, rather than plumb cut.
SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Bill Cathcart
MOTION CARRIED.
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5) DRC No. 4287-07 -BANK OF AMERICA SIGNAGE
A proposal for new signage.
2680 N. Tustin Street
Staff Contact: Sonal Thakur, 714-744-7239, sthakur cr,cityoforange.org
DRC Action: Final Determination
Assistant Planner, Sonal Thakur, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Applicant, Dennis Stout, address on file, stated he understood the concerns of Staff and the new
sign campaign was a high tech more advanced design. It had some dimensional relief to it, with
formed letters that had dimension as well.
Public Comment
None.
Chair Wheeler opened the item for Committee discussion.
Committee Member Woollett asked if the sign was all one piece, and did Bank of America
already have the signs manufactured.
Mr. Stout stated the sign specifications were all keyed into the manufacturing process and
anything that would deviate from the sign would be custom signage.
Committee Member Woollett stated the impression he got was that the plastic part of the sign
was built up of individual parts; however, it appeared to be all one piece. Mr. Stout stated the
letters were formed out of the flat area and it was aone-piece sign. The vinyl was added behind
the sign for color.
Committee Member Woollett recommended the Bank of America letters could be made
separately and applied over the red background; this would be comparable to what was currently
used in the center.
Mr. Stout stated it would give the same overall look and the construction would need to be
different.
Ms. Thakur stated just the presence of the band itself did not match the other signage in the
center. Staff was looking at the two multi-tenant buildings and all the signage there matched in
that they were all individual channel letters and not cabinet signs. This would be a deviation and
inconsistent with the multi-tenant building sign. She reviewed pictures of the center signs with
the Committee. The size of the sign was fine, but the design was not.
Mr. Stout stated Bank of America had run into some resistance in certain cities. In lieu of the
sign being presented they had fall a back design. The alternative sign consisted of a solid
aluminum area instead of plastic with some dimension, with aluminum channel letters and the
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use of LED lights which gave a soft glow. During the day it had the appearance of the standard
sign and at night time there were just shadows of where the letters were placed.
Committee Member DeWees asked if there were any photographs of the alternative design. Mr.
Stout stated he did not have any photographs.
Committee Member DeWees stated the alternative design did not answer Staff's concerns.
Ms. Aranda-Roseberry asked if the Committee would consider the red background and adding an
architectural element instead of adding a sign.
Committee Member DeWees stated he would consider it as part of the sign.
Chair Wheeler stated if there was nothing prohibiting the applicant from painting on the building
and adding the channel letters onto that, it would be considered.
Ms. Aranda-Roseberry stated if a background was painted it would be considered a painted sign.
In order to paint the background of the sign it would need to be architecturally compatible with
the rest of the palette on the building.
Chair Wheeler asked if the proportions were actual; it appeared that the sign change was
reducing the bank name in size.
Mr. Stout stated the proportions were correct and the bank name was actually smaller.
Committee Member DeWees asked where the length of red came from, and was it the maximum
square footage allowed. Mr. Stout stated it was the square footage they were allowed. The
letters could only go so big to remain in proportion; however, the length of the sign was longer.
The red on the sign was meant to be an eye-catcher.
Committee Member DeWees asked if the area of the signage was based on the red piece. Mr.
Stout stated yes.
Chair Wheeler suggested raised letters, with a red rectangle just slightly larger than the letter
area.
Committee Member Woollett stated the existing sign was actually quite good.
Mr. Stout asked if they were to go with a design of channel letters on the red background and a
reduction to the length, would that be a sign the Committee would support.
Chair Wheeler stated he would support it. Committee Members DeWees and Woollett stated
they would not support it.
Mr. Stout asked what would occur if the sign was denied?
Ms. Aranda-Roseberry explained if the Design Review Committee denied the project, the
applicant would have the opportunity to appeal the decision to the Planning Commission. The
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applicant would have fifteen days to file an appeal with the City with the proper appeal form and
a $1,000.00 appeal fee. They would have fifteen calendar days, with day number one being
December 6, 2007.
Mr. Stout stated he would accept a denial.
Committee Member DeWees made a motion to deny DRC No. 4287-07, Bank of America
Signage.
SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Bill Cathcart
MOTION CARRIED.
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6) DRC No. 4293-07 - HOLLINS RESIDENCE
Current roof form under construction is not in substantial compliance with the previous
DRC approval. Applicant is requesting DRC approval of as-built conditions.
1834 N. Fern Street
Staff Contact: Sonal Thakur, 714-744-7239, sthakur cr,cityoforange.org
DRC Action: Final Determination
Assistant Planner, Sonal Thakur, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Applicant, Shiv Talwar, address on file, stated that they did follow the plans approved through
the City and the plans did show a 4 and12 pitch. Somehow when the materials were ordered the
trusses were 5 andl2 and they were installed. Looking at neighboring properties, he found other
5 and 12 pitches, and personally he did not see any problems. Mr. Talwar stated he was looking
for an approval for the as-built condition.
Applicant, John Hollins, address on file, stated the plans were approved with a 5 and 12 pitch
and the plans had noted a 5 and 12 pitch. He did not understand what the problem was.
Committee Member Califf asked if those plans were approved by the DRC or the Building
Department?
Mr. Hollins stated they were approved by the Building Department.
Applicant, Mrs. Hollins, address on file, stated the neighbors would like them to hurry up and get
the project completed.
Public Comment
None.
Chair Wheeler opened the item for Committee discussion.
Committee Member Woollett asked if the construction drawings that went to the Building
Department called fora 5 and 12 pitch?
Mr. Hollins stated it was in the master plan.
Committee Member Califf stated that it meant the original planner did not notice it at the time.
Committee Member Woollett stated the point was not whether it was 4 and 12 or 5 and 12; the
point was that the building was very different. If the construction plans called for 5 and 12, but
the building looked the same, then the plans were not drawn right. If the constructions plans
looked like the building did now, it was another issue. He was concerned there was
misrepresentation of the documents that went to the City.
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Chair Wheeler stated in looking at the floor plans that were approved and those that went to the
City that there was approximately 170 square feet of space added. It was not the roof pitch,
although it changed the design, he was concerned with the added space that was not approved. If
there had been a required change, when the trusses were added, it would have meant going back
to the Building Department with new structural calculations. Chair Wheeler pointed out an area
on the drawing that was not on the plans that the DRC had approved.
Committee Member DeWees asked the applicant how did the plans get expanded between the
DRC submittal and the Building Department.
Mr. Hollins stated that he had no idea as these were the plans they had.
Committee Member DeWees stated when 5 and 12's showed up on site what was the course of
action and asked why did they get installed.
Mr. Talwar stated the contractor ordered the trusses and they were installed. After the
installation they did not stop under the 2nd floor and it was too late to change them, as all the
mechanical equipment and duct work had been completed. When the inspector noticed a change
and brought it to his attention they called the Planner. The inspector came on October 2, 2007.
Chair Wheeler stated he was concerned when he realized the house was bigger than what was
approved and what the FAR currently was. On the site plan the FAR was calculated wrong, as it
had not included the garage area. The garage, under the City requirement, should have been
included. The FAR was at .42 and now with the added square footage it was up to .44, it was
less than the .6 allowed; however, in reviewing in-fill projects they looked at neighboring
properties. He was curious to see what the FAR of other houses in the neighborhood were at,
and it was something that should be investigated.
Mr. Talwar stated the lot size was over 9,000 square feet, and the house was 3,400 square feet.
The allowable FAR was 6.6 and the house was well below the allowable.
Chair Wheeler stated that was not what they looked at; they looked at the surrounding homes.
He did not feel comfortable with the numbers on the plans.
Committee Member DeWees asked how did this happen and how did the project get expanded.
Mr. Talwar stated it was done between Design Review and the final documents.
Chair Wheeler stated it should have come back to the DRC, as they could not arbitrarily change a
floor plan without resubmission and approval.
Committee Member Woollett stated they needed to evaluate the current drawing and determine if
the DRC would have approved the project. The City had approved it, and the construction
drawings showed what had been built. He questioned whether they had enough information and
if the FAR and the roof appearance would be a reason enough not to accept the project. In the
neighborhood there were various roof styles that included 5 and 12's. As far as he was
concerned it was a question of the size and appearance of the building.
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Committee Member DeWees stated he would not have approved it.
Mr. Hollins stated if the Committee did not like the roof slope they could add a dormer.
Committee Member DeWees stated he was inclined to go back and require what was originally
submitted and approved.
Mr. Talwar stated they did speak with the truss company, and looking at where the project was at
it would be impossible to go back.
Committee Member DeWees stated this did not answer his question on how the area suddenly
got larger between submission to DRC and Building & Safety.
Mr. Talwar stated he could not answer that. He stated it had something to do with a structural
requirement.
Committee Member DeWees stated he was not aware of any structural condition that would
occur to solve a problem that would add 170 more square feet to a 2°d floor plan, and why was it
not built to the original design.
Mr. Talwar stated it was to simplify the design and the cost involved.
Committee Member DeWees stated the job of the Committee was to review and approve a
certain scheme that would be submitted to the Building Department.
Chair Wheeler stated if they were to approve what had been built, he would need to see an
accurate set of exterior elevations.
Committee Member Califf stated the drawings called fora 5 and 12, they decided to make a
change and no one picked up on it.
Committee Member Woollett stated it was done when they went from preliminary drawings to
construction drawings.
Chair Wheeler stated he would like to know what the FAR of other properties in the
neighborhood were at.
Ms. Thakur stated Staff could look into county records to see what was available.
Committee Member Califf asked what was the original FAR.
Chair Wheeler stated the original approved FAR was for 35.8%, when it was actually built at
44%.
Mr. Talwar stated the garage was not included and it was not brought to their attention that
garages were required to be included in on FAR calculations.
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Committee Member Califf stated the changes made did not help to make the project a more
attractive design and the original roof forms were more interesting. What had been built was not
offensive, and would not have been outright rejected. There were other roof forms in the
neighborhood and he was inclined to approve it. He wanted to acknowledge that it was not an
improvement.
Committee Member DeWees stated he disagreed and would not have approved it.
Committee Member Woollett stated he agreed with Committee Member Califf. He wondered if
there could be some mitigation on this project. In reviewing the construction drawings there was
a break between the two different roof areas. If he was the property owner he would want the
building built as the drawings called for.
Construction contractor, Steve Brubeck, stated when this came about they called the
homeowners to look at what was approved and what was built, and they liked the way it was
currently built.
Committee Member Woollett asked how much higher the house was now. Mr. Brubeck stated it
was 18" higher.
Chair Wheeler stated he was not pleased with the additional square footage added and it was not
the type of thing that should be done; however, he did not want to hold up the homeowners for
mistakes made by someone else. He did not care for the exterior of the as-built house; however,
he would reluctantly accept it.
Committee Member Woollett made a motion to approve DRC No. 4293-07, Hollins Residence,
with the conditions contained in the Staff Report and the additional conditions:
1. The front yard fence to be a maximum of 42" in height.
2. Irrigation system needed to be automatic.
3. An updated set of plans of the as-built house to be submitted to the Building
Department.
SECOND: Jon Califf
AYES:Jon Califf, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES:Donnie DeWees
ABSTAIN:None
ABSENT:Bill Cathcart
MOTION CARRIED.
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7) DRC No. 4305-07 -MURPHY RESIDENCE
Review of new Local/National Register listing for historic residence located outside of
the Old Towne Orange Historic District.
1312 E. Palmyra Avenue, Old Towne Historic District
Staff Contact: Dan Ryan 714-744-7224, dryan(a~cityoforange.org
DRC Action: Final Determination
Historic Preservation Senior Planner, Dan Ryan, presented a project overview consistent with the
Staff Report.
Applicant, John Murphy, address on file, stated they had full intentions to restore the home and
not modify it. There were two minor changes to the outside of the house; one would be the
address plate and the other would be to change the outside light to a more simple light. There
would not be exterior modifications that would change the character of the house. The kitchen
had been restored to its original appearance, original materials, and workmanship techniques.
The major change was the use of varnish rather than shellac on the cabinets. He stated they used
pictures from Orange Milling & Contract Company of similar homes, which allowed them to
replicate cabinet fixtures and latches down to the last detail. This was not easy to do, or
inexpensive to do, but they found it a good way to live.
Committee Member Woollett asked about the foundation of the building?
Mr. Murphy stated the foundation of the house was built in four sections. The main section was
quite robust, and went down as far as three feet and a few inches from the top it was 11" thick.
There were a few cracks and only one or two areas where there was deterioration. The
deterioration caused by water damage; however, there was no question about the integrity of that
area.
Committee Member Woollett asked if a concrete wash had been placed over the exposed exterior
area, where the foundation was exposed above the ground.
Mr. Murphy stated there was an epoxy placed on the exposed foundation to protect it. There
were some low spots. The rose garden area was the homes original grade. The City changed the
grade of the street in the 1960's, burying the original sidewalks.
Mr. Ryan stated there was an existing sump and field on the east side and another would be
added to the west side of the property, and the east side rear to ensure proper drainage.
Architectural Historian, Cynthia Ward, stated she had completed over 100 of these restorations
throughout Orange County, and this was the most meticulous she had seen in a long time.
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Public Comment
Janet Crenshaw, address on file, stated she had watched this couple restore the home
meticulously. She went to the library and read about the history of the home and was pleased to
have it added to the historical registry.
Jeff Frankel address on file, representing the OTPA, stated he was very familiar with the
Murphy Residence. The OTPA had been in discussion at various meetings trying to encourage
the City to create a program of identifying historic resources. The Murphy's were abiding by the
standards and had gone beyond. He wanted to get more individuals outside of the historic
district to participate in the Mills Act, which was the best preservation tool there was. Hopefully
the City would develop some type of program to further assist individuals in getting their homes
nominated. This project was not in the purview of the OTPA, as their concern was the Historic
District itself; however, they were interested in other historic resources in the City of Orange.
Chair Wheeler opened the item for Committee discussion. He asked what year the house was
built.
Mr. Murphy stated the first records received on the house stated 1914; however, they found that
the land purchase dates were incorrect and they were researching to get the correct date.
Ms. Ward stated she found 2/3rds of the surveys to have incorrect public records. Mr. Murphy
stated they found out there was an inventory of photographs in the UCI Library which contained
many photos taken by a Santa Ana photographer. He hoped to bring some of the images to their
library.
Committee Member Woollett made a motion to recommend DRC No. 4305-07, Murphy
Residence, to be added to the National Registry of Historic Places.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Bill Cathcart
MOTION CARRIED.
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ADJOURNMENT:
A motion was made by Committee Member DeWees to adjourn to the next regular meeting on
December 19, 2007.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Jon Califf, Donnie DeWees, Craig Wheeler, Joe Woollett
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Bill Cathcart
MOTION CARRIED.