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2017-11-01 DRC Final Minutes CITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES -FINAL November 1, 2017 � Committee Members Present: Robert Imboden- Chair Tim McCormack Carol Fox Anne McDermott Mary Anne Skorpanich Staff in Attendance: Anna Pehoushek, Assistant Community Development Director Robert Garcia, Senior Planner Marissa Moshier, Historic Preservation Planner Melissa Brandi, Recording Secretary Administrative Session—5:00 Chair Imboden opened the Administrative Session at 5:07 p.m. Chair Imboden inquired if there was any Policy or Procedural information. Ms. Pehoushek indicated there was no Policy or Procedural information. ' i i Committee Members reviewed the Design Review Committee minutes for September 20, 2017 and October 4, 2017. Committee Member McDermott made a motion to close the Administrative Session of the Design Review Committee meeting. SECOND: Carol Fox AYES: Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, Carol Fox, Anne McDermott and Mary Anne Skorpanich. NOES: None ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. Administrative Session adjourned at 5:43 p.m. ,, City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for November 1,2017 Page 2 of 8 Regular Session—5:47 p.m. ROLL CALL: , _ __ _ _. All Committee Members were present. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: Opportunity for members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on matters not listed on the Agenda. There were no speakers. CONSENT ITEMS: (1) APPROVAL OF MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 20,2017 AND OCTOBER 4, 2017 Committee Member McDermott made a motion to approve the minutes from the Design Review Committee meetings of September 20, 2017 and October 4, 2017, as emended during the discussion at the Administrative Session. SECOND: Carol Fox AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott and Mary Anne Skorpanich NOES: None ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for November 1,2017 Page 3 of 8 AGENDA ITEMS: Continued Items: None New A�enda Items: (2) DRC NO. 4764-14 THE NEW HOME COMPANY (MARYWOOD SITE) • The New Home Company, is requesting approval of a new Plan 4 layout, to their approved project, which consists of a one-story layout with a small second story component. . 2811 E. Villareal Drive • Staff Contact: Robert Garcia, (714) 744-7231, �,arcia�a citXoforange.or� • DRC Action: Final Determination Robert Garcia, Senior Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. The representatives who were present for this project were Rick Bianchi, David Kosco and Doug Staley. Chair Imboden asked for clarification regarding the "kitchenette" that appears in the multigenerational option of the plans and opined that the floor plan suggested use of the space as an accessory dwelling unit. Staff clarified that the multigenerational option does not fit City standards of an accessory unit and that the intent of the applicant is not to make it an accessory second dwelling unit. The applicant stated that the intent is to provide a multigenerational option for families, due to the growing need in the community. The applicant confirmed that there is a built-in cabinet with a small sink, however there is nothing in the unit for the preparation of food. The Committee inquired about noticing for this project. Mr. Garcia stated that noticing was not required. Notices were posted at the library and City Hall. Public Comments: Chair Imboden opened the item to the Public far comments. There were no speakers. Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion: • Concerned that roof lines are not being reflected on the front elevation properly. The ridge over the lower portion appears much higher in the front elevation than it does on the right side. On the right side, the ridge hits below the upstairs eave and on the front, continues several feet above that. • The gable at the top floor should penetrate all the way through to the left side as shown on the roof plan. The elevation of the Americana Plan should be drawn to match the roof plan. • The Committee recommended that the Americana or Cottage plans should not be placed on Lot 17. :� �� City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for November 1,2017 Page 4 of 8 • �'he Committee expressed concern about the unit being used as a rental space or an accessory unit. Staff stated that the City Code has a specific definition for what constitutes a kitchen and explained that the use of the space is not a design issue, but a land use issue, and is not within the purview of the Committee. Chair Imboden indicated he could not support the item with this issue and expressed his difference of opinion with staff. • The Committee noted that the two appliances shown on the plans are not labeled. The plans should indicate the type of appliances. • The Committee requested clarification of the window treatment of the garage given the prominence of the window on the front elevation and the potential for open views of garage storage from the street. The applicant stated that the glass in the windows could have the option for tinting. Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve DRC No. 4764-14, based on the findings and condition listed in the Staff Report with the following additional conditions: 1. The plans shall be revised for the `C' elevation of the Americana Plan so that the front elevation correlates with the roof plan. 2. The Americana or the Cottage style Plans shall not be used on Lot 17. 3. On all the plan elevations, garage windows facing the street shall be tinted. SECOND: Mary Anne Skorpanich AYES: Carol Fox, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott, and Mary Anne Skorpanich NOES: None ABSTAIN: Robert Imboden ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. � ..��; .�, ,.. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for November 1, 2017 Page 5 of 8 AGENDA ITEMS: Continued Items: (3) UPDATE TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION DESIGN STANDARDS FOR OLD TOWNE • Recommendation to the Planning Commission on the update to the Historic Preservation Design Standards for Old Towne (Design Standards). This is the third meeting with the Design Review Committee on the update to the Design Standards. The two previous meetings were study sessions held on June 21, 2017 and August 9, 2017. The City Council has final determination on adoption of the update. • Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, (714) 744-7243, mmoshier�a citvoforan�e.org • DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission Marissa Moshier, Historic Preservation Planner, presented an overview consistent with the Staff Report, describing the previous reviews of the update to the Historic Preservation Design Standards and the revisions that have been incorporated into the document from the DRC and community comments. Chair Imboden asked staff if the document included language related to the preservation of chimneys and fireplaces. Ms. Moshier responded that the topic was not covered specifically but the most applicable standards would be those related to architectural details and building materials which describe appropriate treatment for historic masonry. Chair Imboden requested including those elements as character-defining features. Public Comments: Chair Imboden opened the item to the Public for comments. Jeff Frankel, Old Towne Preservation Association (OTPA), spoke in favor of adoption of the updated Design Standards and appreciated the improvement to how the document reads for residents, property owners, and developers. Mr. Frankel also had comments and requested some changes for the DRC's consideration: . Gutters, downspouts, and collectors should be included as character-defining features of historic buildings and new additions or replacements should be appropriate for the style and period of the building. . Plexiglas should be prohibited as a replacement for historic glazing. • The preservation of unpainted historic elements should include concrete, such as columns. • Questioned whether the City is going to encourage ribbon driveways. . Questioned whether sandwich board signs would be addressed. • Noted that the previous version of the Design Standards said that non-contributing buildings should be in style and period of the existing building, and wanted to confirm how this is addressed in the update. �, +rli:':S �,;r� y;.�. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for November 1,2017 Page 6 of 8 • Suggested that OTPA could be mentioned in the document as a resource in the planning phases for a project. • Chimneys should be identified as character-defining features. Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee had the following comments and recommendations: • The typo in the text box on page 6 should be corrected to accurately reflect the document's _ page numbers. This should be page "13-14" instead of"12-13." • It is not clear in the Floor Area Ratio (FAR) graphic on page 48 why the one-story buildings show an FAR number for a second story. Ms. Moshier clarified that the intent of the graphic was to show the potential for build-out of habitable space in the attic on an existing one-story building. The Committee members found this to be unclear and recommended that the second floor FAR numbers should be eliminated from the one-story buildings, so that the graphic focuses on existing FAR of a block, rather than potential. . The Committee briefly discussed the purpose of FAR as one of a number of factors that can affect the compatibility of a project. • The Committee discussed the importance of parkways, both in the ground plane and the canopy of street trees, as part the historic streetscape. In the section on Setting on pages 27- 29,the Committee recommended including the mature tree canopy as an important character- defining feature of the Historic District and encouraging property owners to take care that changes to landscaping do not affect the watering of established trees. The Committee also recommended adding parkways to No. 11 ori Page 29, in reference to avoiding gra�el, mulch, or unplanted soil. • On page 8, "DRC is required" should be replaced with"Design Review is required." • On pages 8 and 10, the language related to CEQA and significant impacts to historic resources should be revised to state that if a project has the potential to significantly impact a historic resource, including demolition, it will require an environmental review process, rather than it may require one. Staff stated that they would consult the City's Local CEQA Guidelines and would revise the text accordingly. • On page 13, on the first line, "intent" should be replaced with"purpose." • On page 13,the list of character-defining features of starefronts should include tile. • On page 14, the list of typical residential architectural styles should include "among others" to indicate the breadth of historic architectural styles present in Old Towne. • On page 14, the Committee recommended that the last bullet point addressing industrial buildings should include a reference to vernacular buildings and should provide more description of historic industrial buildings. Staff recommended including a reference to the Santa Fe Depot Specific Plan for more specificity on the character-defining features of historic industrial buildings. • The Committee briefly discussed the relationship between the Santa Fe Depot Specific Plan and the Historic Preservation Design Standards. • The Committee discussed the window graphics on pages 20 and 2l and recommended revising one of the two single-hung windows to be a double-hung window in the graphics. . The Committee discussed security screen doors and recommended revising the reference to screens on page 20. No. 1 d to include both window and door screen. . The Committee discussed the introduction to the Design Standards and whether the document should add a reference to "a shared history citywide" or should keep the current ��� � � ��� �� x���,�x..N F`� e .;���.. . � � �=�,ar, � �-.. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for November l, 2017 Page 7 of 8 description of"neighborhood character." The majority of the Committee members preferred to keep "neighborhood character." • The Committee discussed the appropriate place to include chimneys to the Design Standards. The Committee recommended adding chimneys to the list of character-defining features in No. lc in the section on Roofs. • In response to OTPA's comments, the Committee also recommended adding a sentence that new gutters, downspouts, and collectors should be compatible with the architectural style of the building. • The Committee recommended adding that substitute materials for historic glazing are generally inappropriate to No. 2b in the section on Windows and Doors. • The Committee agreed that the section on Architectural Details and Building Materials, No. 1 d should include a reference to unpainted concrete elements. . The Committee discussed whether ribbon driveways should be encouraged in the Design Standards. The Committee concluded that ribbon driveways should be encouraged as a design solution for large driveways or parking areas. Large areas of paving can also be divided into a three foot grid, as this was a detail frequently used historically. • The Committee discussed sandwich board signs and the current Municipal Code requirements for signage in the Plaza. • The Committee discussed OTPA's comments on changes to non-contributing buildings and whether they should be required to be consistent with the existing style of the non- contributing building. The Committee recommended that complete changes to the style of a non-contributing building should be allowed, that the Standards should address avoiding a false sense of history for new construction. Ms. Moshier described the sections on Additions to Historic Buildings and Infill Construction and how they encourage differentiation and avoiding elaborate architectural detailing for new construction. . The Committee discussed OTPA's request to be referenced as a resource for property owners when planning for their projects. The Committee recommended including a reference to reaching out to community groups and neighbors in the section on How to Plan for a Successful Project. Committee Member Fox made a motion to recommend approval of the draft update to the Historic Preservation Design Standards for Old Towne to the Planning Commission as amended during the Design Review Committee meeting on November 1, 2017. The Committee requests that staff incorporates the changes brought up during the meeting for the Planning Commission's consideration. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott, and Mary Anne Skorpanich NOES: None ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. �.. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for November 1, 2017 Page 8 of 8 ADJOURNMENT: Committee Member McDermott made a motion to adjourn to the next Design Review Committee meeting on Wednesday,November 15, 2017 at 5:00 p.m. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott, and Mary Anne � � Skorpanich NOES: None t ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. Meeting adjourned at 8:05 p.m. ,.�