2017-02-01 DRC Final Minutes CITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES -FINAL
February 1, 2017
Committee Members Present: Carol Fox - Chair
Robert Imboden
Tim McCormack
Anne McDermott
Staff in Attendance: Robert Garcia, Senior Planner
Marissa Moshier, Historic Preservation Planner
Kelly Ribuffo, Associate Planner
Vidal Marquez, Assistant Planner
Deb Arnold, Recording Secretary
Administrative Session—5:00
Chair Fox opened the Administrative Session at 5:05 p.m.
Chair Fox inquired if there was any Policy or Procedural information. Mr. Garcia indicated there
was Policy or Procedural information to discuss:
Deb Arnold is here as the Temparary Recording Secretary from AppleOne. Anna Pehoushek was in
attendance to thank Community Development Staff Member Melissa Castillo for helping with
minutes the last few meetings. Anna also thanked her supervisor Kenny Eckman for sharing
Melissa.
February's 2°d meeting of the month will be the election of the New Chair and Vice Chair for 2017
DRC.
Staff has heard no news on vacant DRC position.
Ms. Ribuffo also provided the DRC with an update on the Chapman University Villa Park Orchards
Packing House noting that a 3`d preliminary review will take place at the 2°d meeting in February.
There are new items to discuss as well as previous topics already discussed.
Anne McDermott inquired about whether there was new mechanical equipment on top of The
Antique Station on South Glassell. No screens appeared to be around the equipment and she
requested that staff investigate the situation.
Anne questioned that flags were flying from the upper floor (residential apartments) 2 American
Flags and 2 scal.io Flags (183 S. Glassell St.). Staff indicated that they would look into this
situation. Anne was questioning the signage on the building for business identification.
She also questioned the lighting on the Jensen Building which seems brighter than the typical level,
and wondered if the light bulbs have been changed. Staff indicated that the buildings original lights
were bright,then were adjusted to be dimmer a long time ago.
Staff suggested that if there is any trend in brighter lights it could be a property owner response to
homeless, but wanted to check with the Police Department if they had interaction with property
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owners. Staff that the update to the Old Towne design standards have been addressed for color
temperature of lighting.
Committee Members reviewed the Design Review Committee minutes for January 4, 2017 and
January 18, 2017. Corrections were made and will be updated.
Committee Member Anne McDermott made a motion to close the Administrative Session of the
Design Review Committee meeting.
SECOND: Robert Imboden
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.
Administrative Session adjourned at 5:42 p.m.
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Regular Session 5:44p.m.
ROLL CALL:
All Committee Members were present, with one vacancy.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION:
Opportunity for members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on matters not
listed on the Agenda.
CONSENT ITEMS:
(1) APPROVAL OF MINUTES: JANUARY 4,2017 AND JANUARY 18, 2017
Committee Member Anne McDermott made a motion to approve the minutes from the Design
Review Committee meeting of January 4, 2017 and January 18, 2017, as amended during the
discussion at the Administrative Session.
SECOND: Robert Imboden
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED
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AGENDA ITEMS
New A�enda Items:
(2) DRC No. 4881-16—MT Plaza Sign Program
• 1738-1750 W. Chapman Avenue
• A proposal to establish a sign program for an existing multi-tenant commercial building.
• Staff Contact: Vidal F. Marquez, 714-744-7214, vmarquez@cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Vidal Marquez, Assistant Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
The applicant was not present for this project.
Public Comments:
Chair Fox opened the item to the Public for comments.
There were no speakers.
Chair Fox opened the item to the Committee for discussion:
Committee Member Robert Imboden made a motion to approve DRC No. 4881-16, MT Plaza Sign
Program,to move to last item on the Agenda to be heard.
SECOND: Anne McDermott
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.
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(3) DRC No. 4883-16 Catlin Residence
• 348 N. Cleveland Street
• A proposal for exterior modifications and addition to a contributing historic residence in the
Old Towne Historic District.
• Staff Contact: Kelly Ribuffo, 714-744-7223, kribuffo@cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Kelly Ribuffo, Associate Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Public Comments:
Chair Fox opened the item to the Public for comments.
3 Speakers were present for Item DRC No 4883-16
Tina Catlin
Rick Moser
Tony Trabucco
Chair Fox opened the item to the Committee for discussion:
• Tony Trabucco representing the Old Towne Preservation Association, spoke in support of
this project.
• Mr. Moser stated that the new siding on the addition will be 5.5" in width, in comparison to
the 4" wide siding on the original home. He asked if Hardieplank siding could be used
instead of wood siding as it is more durable. The Committee requested that they hold off on
answering that to later in the discussion.
• There were questions in regards to the small window on the south elevation that is proposed
to be removed. Ms. Ribuffo stated that she believed that the window was a later addition or
alteration to the building. The Committee discussed options for either removing or leaving
the window in place. The applicant agreed to leave the window in place, to repair it, and to
drywall inside the house instead.
• Committee Member Imboden questioned the proposed foundation currently under Building
Division review. Mr. Moser stated that the foundation of the original part of the home was to
be completely replaced, but the exterior would be finished to match the existing stucco finish
and would have continuity of the 1960s addition as well.
• The Committee discussed the appropriateness of a sliding door on the rear of the new
addition. The Committee agreed, with the support of the owner (during discussion), to allow
the owner to select another swing style door/window combination more in keeping the
historic style of the house.
• The Committee clarified that the columns on the front porch are currently asymmetrically
placed in relation to the front door. The Committee stated that they felt the proposed turned
columns were too elaborate, and recommended a simpler column/post style be chosen similar
to ones found on other Queen Anne Cottage style homes in Old Towne.
• The Committee came back to the applicant's request to use Hardieplank siding on the
addition instead of wood lap siding. The Committee stated that the applicant must use wood
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siding, as it is the most compatible material with the historic period of the home. A modern
material, like Hardieplank, would be inappropriate and not in keeping with the Secretary of
the Interior's Standards for Rehabilitation.
• The Committee stated that the final drawings submitted for building permits must include all
items to scale and in the correct location, including windows.
Committee Member Robert Imboden made a motion to approve DRC No. 4883-16, Catlin
Residence, based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report with the following
additional condition/s:
1. The proposed new front porch columns at the front of the house be simplified in their design
and that design be reviewed and approved by planning staff.
2. The rear proposed slider on the west elevation be replaced with a door/door window
combination with divided lights more appropriate to the historic nature of the home. That
also could be reviewed and approved planning staff.
3. That the small window in the south elevation which is called out to be removed, that it will
remain and that it may be covered from the inside (and to be drawn correctly on the final
plans).
4. That the drawings be noted to include that the foundation of the addition will match that of
the historic portion of the house.
SECOND: Anne McDermott
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.
An eight minute break was taken.
Chair Fox reconvened the Committee at 6:35 p.m.
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(4) DRC No. 4886-16—Ricca Donna Salon Signage
• 206 W. Almond Avenue
• A proposal for a new monument sign and directional signage for a contributing historic
residence being used as a salon in the Old Towne Historic District.
• Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, 714-744-7243, mmoshier@cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Marissa Moshier, Historic Preservation Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the
Staff Report.
Paint colors were presented.
The applicant was not present for this project.
Public Comments:
Chair Fox opened the item to the Public for comments.
Tony Trabucco, representing Old Towne Preservation Association spoke in support of the sign.
Chair Fox opened the item to the Committee for discussion:
Committee Chair Carol Fox made a motion to approve DRC No. 4886-16, Ricca Donna Salon
Signage, based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report with the following additional
condition/s: No second, requires continuation.
Committee Member Robert Imboden made a motion to continue DRC No. 4886-16, Ricca Donna
Salon Signage, since we do not have an applicant present we will continue it to a date uncertain.
SECOND: Anne McDermott
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.
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(2) DRC No. 4881-16—MT Plaza Sign Program
• 1738-1750 W. Chapman Avenue
• A proposal to establish a sign program for an existing multi-tenant commercial building.
• Staff Contact: Vidal F. Marquez, 714-744-7214, vmarquez@cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Vidal Marquez, Assistant Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
The applicant was not present for this project.
Public Comments:
Chair Fox opened the item to the Public for comments.
There were no speakers.
Chair Fox opened the item to the Committee for discussion:
Committee Member Robert Imboden made a motion to move DRC No. 4881-16, MT Plaza Sign
Program,to a date uncertain as there was no applicant present at meeting.
SECOND: Anne McDermott
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED
ADJOURNMENT:
Committee Member Anne McDermott made a motion to adjourn to the next Design Review
Committee meeting on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 5:00 p.m.
SECOND: Robert Imboden
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting adjourned at 6:38p.m.