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2016-12-07 DRC Final Minutes CITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - FINAL December 7, 2016 Committee Members Present: Carol Fox - Chair Robert Imboden Tim McCormack Anne McDermott Staff in Attendance: Robert Garcia, Senior Planner Anna Pehoushek, Assistant Community Development Director Marissa Moshier, Historic Preservation Planner Monique Schwartz, Assistant Planner Sharon Penttila, Recording Secretary Administrative Session —5:00 Chair Fox opened the Administrative Session at 5:05 p.m. Chair Fox inquired if there was any Policy or Procedural information. Mr. Garcia indicated there was no Policy or Procedural information. Robert Garcia, Senior Planner, announced that Craig Wheeler would be receiving a proclamation from the City Council on Tuesday, December 13, 2016. Committee Members reviewed the Design Review Committee minutes for November 16, 2016. Committee Member McDermott made a motion to close the Administrative Session of the Design Review Committee meeting. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott NOES: None ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. Administrative Session adjourned at 5:40 p.m. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for December 7, 2016 Page 2 of 10 Regular Session—5:46 p.m. ROLL CALL: All Committee Members were present. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: Opportunity for members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on matters not listed on the Agenda. There were no speakers. CONSENT ITEMS: (1) APPROVAL OF MINUTES: NOVEMBER 16,2016 Committee Member McDermott made a motion to approve the minutes from the Design Review Committee meeting of November 16, 2016, as emended during the discussion at the Administrative Session. SECOND: Robert Imboden AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott NOES: None ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for December 7, 2016 Page 3 of 10 AGENDAITEMS New A�enda Items: (2) DRC No. 4856-16 —Shell Service Station and Car Wash • A proposal to refurbish an existing service station to include an interior and exterior remodel of an existing 1,469 square foot convenience store/service bay building, sale of beer and wine for off-site consumption within the convenience store, construction and operation of a new 1,300 square foot drive-through automatic car wash building, 244 square feet of enclosed storage, and related on-site improvements. • 883 N. Tustin Street • Staff Contact: Monique Schwartz, (714) 744-7224, mschwartz@cityoforange.org • DRC Action: Recommend Approval to Planning Commission Monique Schwartz, Assistant Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. The applicant who was present for this project was Ken Kang. Public Comments: Chair Fox opened the item to the Public for comments. There were no speakers. Chair Fox opened the item to the Committee for discussion: • Suggested painting the trash enclosure and the gates in the landscape area the Shell brand grey color. • Questioned the position of the canister on the top of the building. • Concerned the canister was not behind the roof top mechanical screening. Mr. Kang indicated that the canister needed space for ventilation, but he could move it inward and install the mechanical screen in front of it. He said the canister will only be partially screened. • Concerned with using Japanese Barberry in the strip planter along the west elevation of the car wash. Wanted applicant to reconsider plant choice and suggested using a plant that does not lose its leaves in the winter. • Suggested keeping the Lantana plant material away from hardscape edges. Committee Member Imboden made a motion to recommend approval of DRC No. 4856-16, Shell Service Station and Car Wash, to the Planning Commission based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report with the following additional conditions: 1. The proposed trash enclosure and doors shall be painted in a Shell brand grey color. 2. The mechanical screen location shall be moved forward and the carbon canister shall be relocated inward toward the building to partially screen the canister. i City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for December 7, 2016 Page 4 of 10 3. The proposed Japanese Barberry plant material shall be substituted with an alternative shrub that is both non deciduous and drought tolerant. 4. The proposed Lantana plant material shall not be planted closer than 4' from any hardscape edge. SECOND: Tim McCarmack AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott , NOES: None ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for December 7, 2016 Page 5 of 10 (3) DRC No. 4874-16—Cendejas Residence • A proposal to add a 712 square foot addition to a single-family residence and reconstruct a historic garage on a property in the Old Towne Historic District. • 225 W. Palmyra Avenue, Old Towne Historic District • Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, (714)744-7243, mmoshier(c�citvoforan e.org • DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission Marissa Moshier, Historic Preservation Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. The applicant who was present for this project was Ruben Cendejas. Public Comments: Chair Fox opened the item to the Public for comments. Jeff Frankel, Old Towne Preservation Association, wondered why it required an administrative adjustment for the height of the garage; thought it didn't look like an accurate reconstruction because the original garage was wider; agreed there was no way to rehab the building; confirmed the wrought iron railing would be removed; thought it was a large addition for a modest building; and stated the original exposed rafter tails extended past the eave and thought the proposed fascia was inappropriate. Chair Fox opened the item to the Committee for discussion: • Asked for clarification for the administrative adjustment for the 11' tall side gable roof and the side yard setback and if the original garage had an 11' tall roof would it have still needed an administrative adjustment. Ms. Moshier said the Administrative Adjustment was required because it was a new accessory structure in the setback area. • Asked if the depth of the garage was deeper than the original garage. Ms. Moshier said yes in order to meet the current zoning code requirement for a two car garage. • Not understanding from the drawings if the wall of the garage was on the property line how would the eave be constructed. Ms. Moshier said it would need a setback to accommodate that eave. • Noted the rafter tails that used to extend beyond the roof on the house were gone now but it was good that the fascia was to be removed. • Not clear on the proposal for the windows on the existing because some sheets had the information and others did not. Asked if all the windows on the existing structure would remain. Mr. Cendejas said yes. • Did not want very oddly proportioned trim on the addition and wanted the dimensions of the trim to match that of the existing house. • Did not think the drawings or the dimensions reflected the field conditions and recommended noting the trim of the new windows on the addition match the trim on the existing windows. • Asked if the corner trims were just on new construction. Ms. Moshier said yes. • Not concerned with the size of the addition because the visibility to the street would be minimal. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes far December 7, 2016 Page 6 of 10 • Wanted verification that the rear setback was normally 10'. Ms. Moshier clarified for a non- habitable structure it could encroach into the side and rear setback if the structure was less than 10' tall. • Wanted verification that the existing and proposed driveway acid wash finish would match. Ms. Moshier said yes. • Asked for clarification on the rafter tail detail and how they would get the 15 degree angle. Mr. Cendejas said they would be taking off the fascia, cutting it back 2" and putting a 15 degree angle on the rafter with a drip edge. • Wanted to know what the garage doors would look like and not sure what the lines on the drawing indicated. Could not get a sense of what it would look like and wanted it aesthetically pleasing. • Could not approve a garage design that could not be built and the garage door may have to be reconsidered. • Needed the garage design to come back to the DRC. Wanted a photograph or brochure to see what the door would look like. • Wanted it to look like a carriage house door and it would be better without windows and to be as simple as possible. • Pleased with how the hyphen worked between the house and the addition. • Wanted a correction on the drawings noting the wrought iron railing at the front entrance would not remain. • Wanted it confirmed if 3 risers on the front stairs would require a railing and, if so, the railing would need to be shown on the drawing. Committee Member McCormack made a motion to continue DRC No. 4874-16, Cendejas Residence, to a date uncertain: SECOND: Anne McDermott AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott NOES: None ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for December 7, 2016 Page 7 of 10 (4) DRC No. 4880-16—Elson Residence • A proposal to reconstruct a service porch at the rear of a single-family residence. The residence is a contributor to the Old Towne Historic District. • 268 N. Grand Street, Old Towne Historic District • Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, (714)744-7243, mmoshier@cityoforange.org • DRC Action: Final Determination Marissa Moshier, Historic Preservation Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. The applicants who were present for this project were Robert Elson and Mike Mocaby. Public Comments: Chair Fox opened the item to the Public for comments. Jeff Frankel, Old Towne Preservation Association, explained he had the opportunity to view this property a couple of months ago. He thought the service porch, as a character defining feature, could have been repaired in place rather than replaced. Also on the porch he thought the tapered columns were inappropriate for this 1904 hip roof cottage. He was also concerned that mostly new material would be used for the construction of the new service porch. Chair Fox opened the item to the Committee for discussion: • Wanted to see a better copy of the photograph from DPR form. Ms. Moshier provided the 1991 survey photograph of the house. • Thought the existing column appeared older than any of the inventories and it appeared to be a midcentury change. • Thought the proposed tapered column was out of character with the style of the house. • Concerned with the amount of proposed material reuse and thought there should not be 50% loss of material if there was no deterioration, making material reuse higher than 50%. • Asked staff to verify material loss and Ms. Moshier said staff would do a walk thru. • Wanted the existing windows reinstalled if possible and that should be monitored by staff. • Thought the proposed columns were not quite right for the house and it was problematic having two columns. • Thought the column should have rounded molding and should be an appropriate design. • Preferred to have one rounded column at the corner and no railing. • Did not believe that the description of the property found in the DPR form was correct and stated that the front porch column needed to be consistent with the 1904 historic resource. • Mr. Mocaby explained that the biggest issue currently on the service porch was that it was not structurally safe. • Ms. Moshier would be responsible for approving the column and overseeing the materials to be reused. Committee Member Imboden made a motion to approve DRC No. 4880-16, Elson Residence, based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report with the following additional conditions: City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for December 7, 2016 Page 8 of 10 1. The Historic Preservation Planner shall be consulted during the dismantling process regarding feasibility of reuse of existing materials. 2. The proposed porch column and rail design shall be modified in that it will include no rails and one corner classical tapered column similar to the style shown on the lower left image on the last page of Attachment 2. 3. The final selection of the column shall be reviewed and approved by the Historic Preservation Planner. The column shall be round with simple column cap and column base. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott NOES: None ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes far December 7, 2016 Page 9 of 10 (5) DRC No.4888-16 Branch West Apartments • A proposal to redevelop an existing commercial light-industrial complex with a 94-unit apartment development with structured parking and related residential amenities on a 110 acre site. The application will include a development agreement involving the transfer of development rights from a portion of the adjacent City Water Well property to the subject site. • 1725 W. Katella Avenue • Staff Contact: Anna Pehoushek, (714)744-7228, a�ehoushek(a�citvoforan�e org • DRC Action: Preliminary Review Anna Pehoushek, Assistant Community Development Director, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. The applicants who were present for this project were Brad Perozzi, Irwin Yau, and Matt Jackson. Mr. Perozzi said they are trying to do something unique, and different from the Platinum Triangle found in Anaheim. He explained the materials being used on this project were to make it more interesting. Public Comments: Chair Fox opened the item to the Public for comments. There were no speakers. • Chair Fox opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee provided positive feedback on the overall project concept, as well as architectural design and materials, and landscape/streetscape treatment. Complimented the applicants on the great sensitivity in the design from all sides. There was discussion regarding the following: • The corner treatment on the buildings, with specific discussion of the fact that 3 out of the 4 corners had the same window treatment. The committee suggested further refinement of the fourth corner windows. • Wanted to see the corners anchored. • Asked what was going on with the fire turning radius. Questioned the use of black brick noting that care was needed in the installation to avoid a poor finished appearance, with the applicant confirming that the brick veneer was not installed as panels. • Discussed the corner on the north elevation, and specifically the manner in which the banding wraps all the way around the corner. Differing opinions were expressed about design refinements that would distinguish this corner as building mass and not a continuation of the banding. This could be accomplished without the use of fancy materials, and perhaps color. • Questioning the appropriateness of the false appearance of the awnings on the north elevation, with the suggestion to introduce some articulation that turns the corner. • Questioned the durability of the bamboo material. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for December 7, 2016 Page 10 of 10 • Raised the possibility of integrating a rain chain at the southwest corner of the building that could both capture rain water and serve a dual purpose as an artistic yet functional feature. • Encouraged further exploration of the height of the exterior courtyard wall with respect to eye level viewing. � Stressed the need to reconcile landscape information on plans with specific reference to Sheet A2.4 not showing bamboo on the western edge of the site. • Noted the 10' pole light on the deck, suggesting that a reflective fixture be used, and consideration be given to the height of the pole in relation to potential firework viewing. • Suggested changing the textures on the ground plane by using pavers, concrete and gravel. For preliminary review only—no action required ADJOURNMENT: Committee Member Imboden made a motion to adjourn to the next Design Review Committee meeting on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 5:00 p.m. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott NOES: None ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. Meeting adjourned at 8:24 p.m.