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2016-07-06 DRC Final Minutes CITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - FINAL July 6, 2016 Committee Members Present: Carol Fox - Chair Craig Wheeler—Vice Chair Robert Imboden Tim McCormack Anne McDermott Staff in Attendance: Chad Ortlieb, Senior Planner Marissa Moshier, Associate Planner-Historic Preservation Anne Fox, Contract Planner Sharon Penttila, Recording Secretary Administrative Session —5:00 Chair Fox opened the Administrative Session at 5:09 p.m. Chad Ortlieb, Senior Planner, announced there would be a change to the agenda in that Urth Caffe was requesting to come back at a later date. Chair Fox inquired if there was any Policy or Procedural information. Mr. Ortlieb indicated there was no Policy or Procedural information. Committee Members reviewed the Design Review Committee minutes for June 15, 2016. Kelly Ribuffo, Associate Planner, updated the Committee on the Village at Orange landscaping. She stated she had met on the site with Don Equitz, City of Orange Senior Landscape Coordinator. Mr. Equitz would be spending time on the site over the next couple of weeks to see if there might be some areas of concern. Ms. Ribuffo will give the Committee an update at the next meeting. Vice Chair Wheeler made a motion to close the Administrative Session of the Design Review Committee meeting. SECOND: Anne McDermott AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott, and Craig Wheeler NOES: None ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. Administrative Session adjourned at 5:27 p.m. City of Orange—Besign Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for July 6, 2016 Page 2 of 10 Regular Session—5:34 p.m. ROLL CALL: All Committee Members were present. Chair Fox announced that the last item on the agenda, Urth Caffe, was requested to be pulled by the applicant and would likely be continued to a future date. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: Opportunity for members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on matters not listed on the Agenda. There were no speakers. CONSENT ITEMS: (1) APPROVAL OF MINUTES: June 15,2016 Committee Member McDermott made a motion to approve the minutes from the Design Review Committee meeting of June 15, 2016, as emended during the discussion at the Administrative Session. SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Carol Fox, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott, and Craig Wheeler NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAIN: Robert Imboden MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for July 6, 2016 Page 3 of 10 (2) DRC No. 4839-16 Cost Plus World Market Fa�ade and Metal Screen Band for tenant sign • A proposal to modify the exterior fa�ade of the Cost Plus World Market tenant space and add new signage area for a tenant at the Village at Orange. Prior DRC review occurred on March 16, 2016. • Staff Contact: Chad Ortlieb, 714-744-7237, cortlieb@cityoforange.org • DRC Action: Final Determination (3) DRC No. 4724-13 McDonald's Remodel Final Landscape Plan • A proposal to review the final Landscape/Irrigation Plans for a drive-thru restaurant remodel as previously conditioned and approved by the DRC on December 3, 2014. • 4200 E. Chapman Avenue • Staff Contact: Anne Fox, 714-744-7236, afox(a�citvoforan�g • DRC Action: Final Determination Committee Member Imboden made a motion to approve DRC No. 4839-16, Cost Plus World Market Fa�ade and Metal Screen Band for tenant sign, and DRC No. 4724-13, McDonald's Remodel Final Landscape Plan, based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report: SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott, and Craig Wheeler NOES: None ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for July 6, 2016 Page 4 of 10 (4) DRC No. 4741-14 Lan Le Duplex Final Landscape Plan • A proposal to review the final Landscape/Irrigation Plans for a duplex development as previously conditioned and approved by the DRC on September 2, 2015. • 4520 E. Washington Avenue • Staff Contact: Anne Fox, 714-744-7236, afox(a�cit. o��e.org • DRC Action: Final Determination This project was pulled from the Consent Items for discussion. Anne Fox, Contract Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. The applicant who was present for this project was Kyle Crooke, Mission Landscape Architecture. Public Comments: Chair Fox opened the item to the Public far comments. There were no speakers. Chair Fox opened the item to the Committee for discussion. • Noted Item 1 of the DRC's recommendations stated "In refining the landscape plan, define planter areas for shrubs within the lawn area so there is a mow strip and a definable area for turf' but did not see any turf on the plan. • Concerned with the dripline being 3" below grade and how it would affect the survivability of the plants. • Concerned with the driplines being 15" apart with the plant spacing at 8". • Did not think the Dymondia and the dripline were compatible as proposed. Mr. Crooke explained the water use requirements that are available. • Suggested moving the dripline up so it would water the roots. • Noted the water restriction was for over 2,500 square feet. Ms. Fox stated the original approved plans showed that the softscape percentage of the lot was 2,376 square feet. • Questioned if it had to be a drip system as opposed to sprinklers. • Suggested pushing back on the threshold number and bringing back the turf, or bring the dripline up so the bottom of the roots would get wet. • Wanted the irrigation system be modified to have spacing compatible with the space of the ground cover with a recommended minimum 8" and the depth of the installation no deeper than 2". Committee Member McCormack made a motion to approve DRC No. 4741-14, Lan Le Duplex Final Landscape Plan, based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report with the following condition: 1. The Dymondia as shown on the plan be irrigated with Netafim at a minimum spacing of 8" on center to conform with the 8" on the center of the Dymondia in the horizontal way and the vertical profile of the Netafim drip irrigation be at a maximum 2"below finished grade. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for July 6, 2016 Page 5 of 10 With the following recommendation: 1. Revisit the threshold number of landscaping with the option to replace the Dymondia with a more drought tolerant turf grass. SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott, and Craig Wheeler NOES: None ABSENT: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for July 6, 2016 Page 6 of 10 AGENDAITEMS New A�enda Items: (5) DRC No. 4779-14 The Wall Restaurant • A proposal to install new signage and awnings for a new restaurant in the Plaza Historic District. The restaurant will have an outdoor dining area in the northeast quadrant of the Plaza, approved under Outdoor Dining Permit No. 06-15. Under the Outdoor Dining Ordinance, the Community Development Director has final approval of the outdoor dining furniture. Staff is seeking the DRC's recommendation on the compatibility of the outdoor dining furniture with the Plaza Historic District. • 80 Plaza Square, Plaza Historic District • Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, 714-744-7243, mmoshier@cityoforange.org • DRC Action: Final Determination/Recommendation to CDD Vice Chair Wheeler recused himself due to the proximity to his office and left the building. Marissa Moshier, Associate Planner-Historic Preservation, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. The applicant who was present for this project was Zac Henson. He passed out an alternate rendering of the outdoor dining area with planter boxes to the Committee. Public Comments: Chair Fox opened the item to the Public for comments. Jeff Frankel, Old Towne Preservation Association, stated the signage looked good, the material and size was appropriate and it met the standards. He had no comment on the furniture, railings, planters, and awnings. Chair Fox opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee decided to organize the discussion of the item into two parts: 1) the signage and awnings with a motion for final determination by the Committee; and 2) the outdoor dining area with a motion for recommendation to the Community Development Director. Si n�age and Awnin�s • Noted the new logo was an improvement. • Questioned the new armatures and attachments being used on the awnings and asked why the applicant could not use the existing ones. Mr. Henson said they prefer to use the existing ones. • Pleased with the signage and the level of detail shown on the plan. Committee Member McDermott made a motion to approve the new signage and awnings on DRC No. 4779-14, The Wall Restaurant, based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report with the following condition: City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for July 6, 20]6 Page 7 of 10 1. The new awning fabric shall be installed on the existing armatures. SECOND: Robert Imboden AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott NOES: None ABSENT: None RECUSED: Craig Wheeler MOTION CARRIED. Mr. Henson clarified that everything the Committee received in their packets was the final submittal for the outdoor dining area and the only areas he wanted to draw their attention to on the new renderings were the planter boxes themselves. Outdoor DiningLFurniture • Questioned the shape of the umbrellas. Mr. Henson said they were proposing square shaped umbrellas. • Questioned if the fence, planters, and furniture would be moved in and out at night. Mr. Henson said yes and even if it rained. • Asked how the planters would be attached to the fence and Mr. Henson said it would be with a manufactured U-shaped bracket. • Liked the use of the wheat grass in the planter boxes. • Concerned the orange planters would look dirty and worn over time because the orange was not a factory finish and preferred the sample color. • Questioned the lights and the color temperature of the LED lights being used in the umbrellas. Mr. Henson said the lights would be hidden inside the umbrellas. • Concerned with the height and glare of the lit umbrellas because they would be quite visible particularly when driving by the site. • Suggested up lighting the umbrellas and have it glow orange. • Suggested a down L shape light at the planters making the perimeter glow. • Noted that most outdoor eating places have illumination on the table. • Suggested taking the umbrellas down at sunset since there would be ambient light from the other buildings. • Concerned with the height of the fence because of a cage like feeling. Preferred the fences be 30"high. • Concerned with the spacing of the plants — wanted to see either more of them or none of them. • Thought the plants made it look like a people space. • Good with the simple fence design. • Concerned with the viability of the planters moving in and out of the patio area. • Suggested the Community Development Director look at a sample of the umbrella lighting. • Good with the tables, chairs, and heaters. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for July 6, 2016 Page 8 of 10 Committee Member Imboden made a motion to recommend approval of DRC No. 4779-14, The Wall Restaurant, to the Community Development Director based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report with the additional recommendations: 1. The Committee recommended approval of the fence design as presented but would like to recommend the overall height be brought down to 30" maximum. 2. The planter boxes should be the bronze color that was provided as a sample during the meeting. 3. The umbrellas should be square in form as shown in the rendering. 4. The Committee took no exception to the tables, chairs, and heaters as presented. 5. The Committee recommended that the lighting be handled as a table top style light. The applicant could also do a test of the umbrella light for further consideration. The Director can choose to ask for the DRC's opinion on the umbrella light at the time of the test. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott NOES: None ABSENT: None RECUSED: Craig Wheeler MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for July 6,2016 Page 9 of 10 (6) DRC No. 4803-15 Urth Caffe • A proposal to revise a previously approved plan to rehabilitate a historic building in the Plaza Historic District for use as a restaurant. These alterations are based on additional information on the historic building uncovered during construction. • 100 W. Chapman Avenue, Plaza Historic District • Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, 714-744-7243, mmoshier@cityoforange.org • DRC Action: Final Determination Chair Fox made a motion to move DRC No. 4803-15, Urth Caffe, to a future hearing at a date to be determined at the request of the applicant: SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott NOES: None ABSENT: None RECUSED: Craig Wheeler MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange—Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for July 6, 2016 Page 10 of 10 ADJOURNMENT: Committee Member McDermott made a motion to adjourn to the next Design Review Committee meeting on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 5:00 p.m. SECOND: Tim McCormack AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott NOES: None ABSENT: Craig Wheeler MOTION CARRIED. Meeting adjourned at 6:44 p.m.