2016-05-11 DRC Final Minutes CITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES — FINAL
May 11, 2016
Committee Members Present: Carol Fox - Chair
Craig Wheeler — Vice Chair
Robert Imboden
Tim McCormack
Anne McDermott
Staff in Attendance: Robert Garcia, Senior Planner
Sharon Penttila, Recording Secretary
Administrative Session — 7:02
Chair Fox opened the Administrative Session at 7:02 p.m.
Chair Fox inquired if there was any Policy or Procedural information. Robert Garcia, Senior
Planner, indicated there was no Policy or Procedural information.
Special Session — 7:02 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
All Committee Members were present.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION:
Opportunity for members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on matters not
listed on the Agenda.
There were no speakers.
CONSENT ITEMS:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: None
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AGENDA ITEMS
New Agenda Item:
(1) DRC No. 4831 -15 Olson Co.
• The Olson Company proposes to construct 37 new single story townhomes in a one story
overlay district.
• Vacant lot south side of Washington and Hamlin
• Staff Contact: Robert Garcia, (714) 744 -7231, garcia @cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Chair Fox explained that the intent for last week's DRC meeting was to have a recommendation to
the Planning Commission but the agenda said preliminary review so the meeting had been continued
to tonight to ensure anyone from the public would have an opportunity to comment.
Robert Garcia, Senior Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. He
explained that during the May 4th DRC review of the item, the Committee provided feedback to the
applicant concerning the lighter colors on some of the garage doors, bigger eaves, 8' garage doors,
different door trim on the cabinets, larger planting areas, and breaking up the long ridges.
The applicants who were present for this project were Doris Nguyen, Todd Olson, Michael Boyd,
and Peter Durate.
Committee Member Imboden asked Mr. Garcia to clarify the zoning compliance for the project. Mr.
Garcia explained that the current zoning for the property is R3 with a single story overlay and this
project does meet the zoning requirements.
Public Comments:
Chair Fox opened the item to the Public for comments.
George Gallardo, address on file, lives next to the project and wanted trees or bushes to help cover
the noise and lighting from the proposed complex. He also voiced concern with increased parking
011 Washington Avenue.
Kimberly Johnson, address on file, explained her biggest concerns were lighting and noise pollution.
She wanted reassurance that the lighting would not be a privacy issue and the grading would be at
the same level as the existing neighborhood.
Ruben Garnica, address on file, was concerned with water runoff flowing onto his property.
Chair Fox invited the applicant to respond to the specific Design Review Committee and community
concerns.
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Ms. Nguyen responded to the concerns:
1. Garage door colors — shared the new lighter color palettes for Scheme 2 and 3
2. Tree selection — shared 3 different tree options: Magnolia Samuel Summer, Golden Rain
Tree, and the African Sumac
3. Utility cabinet — showed a louvered door with a lintel on top and the door could be a pressed
louver door or an open louver door
4. Eave extension — extended them to 14" on Buildings 1 and 2 which front Washington
Avenue
5. Roof ridge — preferred to keep the ridgeline as proposed but shared a revised elevation with
lower plate heights
6. 8' garage doors — not able to accommodate this request
Chair Fox requested the public concern of water runoff be addressed on Via Largo. Ms. Nguyen
explained that they would be collecting the water on Via Largo as part of their project.
Ms. Nguyen discussed the grading plan with an elevation difference of 1'; the site lighting on Sheet
L8 including the Police Department standards and how the photometric study would determine the
pole heights and locations; and the portion of the walkway they were able to remove for a larger
landscape area.
Chair Fox opened the item to the Committee for discussion.
The DRC had the following comments:
• In agreement with the new proposed lighter garage door colors.
• Preferred the Magnolia Samuel Summer or the Golden Rain Tree.
• 14" eaves and the ridgeline:
Did not understand the justification for the changes being make only on Washington and
thought it should look the same throughout the complex.
• Thought the 12" eaves did not get the water away from the house.
• Suggested 8" rakes with 14" eaves throughout the project.
• Preferred exhibit provided that breaks up the ridgeline and wanted the alternative roof plan
that lowered the roof plate on some units by 1' on Buildings 1, 2, and 3.
• Noted the one planting area was now larger by removing the sidewalk providing room for a
larger tree.
• Noted the public comment regarding the water flow issue was not the purview of the DRC
and would be addressed by the Planning Commission.
• Lighting issues:
• Wanted to see the photometric study to make sure the street lights along the channel were
shielded properly so there would be no spillover onto the neighbors.
• Wanted to see how the pole heights and the number of lights would be affected by the
photometric study.
• Concerned with Unit 26 that has a street light right outside the house and suggested using a
lower light standard throughout.
• Wanted the street tree locations looked at in relation to the lighting.
• Wanted the lighting plan coordinated with the landscape plan and the photometric study to
come back to the DRC for approval.
• Wanted to see what the shielded feature would look like.
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• Discussed the concern with the light spill into Mr. Gallardo's home. Ms. Nguyen said there
are no lights proposed on that side of the units and there would be a 6' block wall.
Vice Chair Wheeler made a motion to recommend approval of DRC No. 4831 -15, The Olson
Company, to the Planning Commission based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff
Report with the additional conditions:
1. The lighter garage door colors as presented at the meeting were acceptable.
2. The tree selection be either the Magnolia Samuel Summer or the Golden Rain Tree.
3. The units all incorporate 14" eaves and reduce the rakes to 8 ".
4. The ridgelines be adjusted to show a variation in accordance with Sheet A1.2 dated May 10,
2016 as presented at the meeting and the differential in height be approximately 1' between
ridges and it apply to Buildings 1, 2, and 3.
5. The new trim and treatment of the utility cabinet doors as presented at the meeting were
acceptable.
6. The changes to the tree sizes on Sheet L7 dated May 11, 2016 revision was acceptable.
7. Prior to issuance of the building permit, the new site lighting plan showing both the lighting
and tree locations plus a photometric study showing how the lights are shielded and details of
the shielding come back to the Design Review Committee for approval.
Committee Member Imboden thanked the Olson Company for listening and working with the
community. He disclosed that he, and other Committee Members, had met with the Olson Company
recently to see what they were coming back with ahead of time and the Committee had shaped this
project as much as they could within their purview.
SECOND: Robert Imboden
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott, and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.
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ADJOURNMENT:
Committee Member Imboden made a motion to adjourn to the next regular Design Review
Committee meeting on May 18, 2016.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting adjourned at 8:08 p.m.