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2015-05-06 DRC Final MinutesCITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - FINAL Committee Members Present: Tim McCormack - Chair Carol Fox —Vice Chair Anne McDermott Craig Wheeler Committee Members Absent: Robcrt Imboden Staff in Attendance: Jennifer Le, Acting Principal Planner Robert Garcia, Senior Planner Kelly Christensen Ribuffo Associate Planner Chad Ortlieb, Senior Planner Sharon Penttila, Recording Secretary Administrative Session — 5:00 Chair McCormack opened the Administrative Session at 5 :05 p_m. May 6, 201 5 Chair McCormack inquired if there was any Policy or Procedural information. Jennifer Le, Acting Principal Planner, indicated there were two informational updatas_ Marissa Moshier, Associate Planner — Historic Preservation, informed the Committee about the upcoming City project that will bring the accessible parking spaces and ramps in the northeast and southwest quadrants of the Plaza into compliance with current ADA codes. The existing accessible parking spaces and ramps will be removed and relocated within the same quadrants. The new ramps will include a guardrail, similar to the bollard and chain design in Plaza Park, between the outdoor dining areas (pink concrete triangles) and the new ramps. All the parking stalls will be restriped and there will be no net loss of parking. Staff found that the project uses compatible design and materials, and does not directly impact historic materials. The Centennial commemorative plaques in the area of construction will be removed and cleaned. Three of those will be relocated within the same quadrant_ The project has been reviewed and approved by City Council and construction will begin in early June_ Ms_ Lc updated the Committee on the Metrolink parking structure project at the corner of Chapman Avenue and Lemon Street_ The DRC did see plans for this project in late 2013_ She stated the original plan for a restaurant and retail component have been eliminated along with some other design changes_ For the past year and a half, staff has been working on the required Federal environmental documents for the project, and they are getting ready to complete the CEQA compliance document. The environmental document will be released for public review in June along with community meetings_ The project will come to the DRC around September_ Ms_ Le distributed to the DRC members the staff report which had been given to City Council updating them on the project_ She indicated there might be a quirk in the project schedule that will cause the DRC to review construction plans prior to making a recommendation on schematic design_ Staff will provide guidance when the time comes_ Chair McCormack asked if a study session could be agendized regarding the urban forest in the public right -of -way an d the homeowners' responsibility for maintenance. Ms_ Le stated she would City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 2 of 14 talk to the City Attorney's Office to determine the best way to provide an opportunity to talk about this item and she would return with suggestions on how to do that. Committee Member Fox wanted to know what the current status was on the past DRC study session regarding the demolition review process for historic resources. Ms. Moshier explained she is working on an update for the City Council covering the information collected during the DRC study session. Committee Member Wheeler stated he would be recusing himself from the last item. The Committee Members reviewed the meeting minutes from the Design Review Committee meeting of April 1, 2015. Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to close the Administrative Session of the Design Review Committee meeting. SECOND: Carol Fox AYES: Carol Fox, Tim McCormack, McDermott and Craig Wheeler NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Imboden MOTION CARRIED. Administrative Session adjourned at 5:22 p.m. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 3 of 14 Regular Session — 5:30 p.m. ROLL CALL: Committee Member Robert Imboden was absent. All other Committee Members were present. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: Opportunity for members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on matters not listed on the Agenda. There were no speakers. CONSENT ITEMS (1) APPROVAL OF MINUTES: April 1, 2015 Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to approve the minutes from the Design Review Committee meeting of April 1, 2015 as written: SECOND: Carol Fox AYES: Carol Fox, Tim McCormack, and Craig Wheeler NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Imboden ABSTAIN: Anne McDermott MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 4 of 14 AGENDA ITEMS Continued Items: (2) DRC No. 4778 -14 — TUSTIN STREET CENTER • Farade remodel and site improvements of an existing center within the former Tustin Redevelopment Area. • 1211 -1233 N. Tustin Street • Staff Contact: Robert Garcia, 714 - 744 -7231, r a�(a,cityoforange.org • DRC Action: Final Determination Robert Garcia, Senior Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. James Cummings, CTA Architects, Inc., was present to answer questions from the DRC. Public Comments: Chair McCormack opened the item to the Public for comments. There were none. Chair McCormack opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee was pleased with the revisions the applicant had made. The DRC asked the Applicant questions about the plans related to the stone veneer around the door on the front elevation, the number and location of columns, the thickening of the curved parapet, the bracing for the new parapet, the color scheme, the cantilever element, and the lighting on the roof plan. The DRC commented on the following: • DRC questioned the lighting on the roof plan and the two wall packs on the north and south ends. They suggested moving the wall pack on the north end below the canopy. • DRC suggested varying the height of the palm trees on the landscaping plan. Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve DRC No. 4778 -14, Tustin Street Center, based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report, and with the additional condition: 1. The wall pack on the north elevation shall be lowered below the canopy. With strong recommendations: 1. The brown trunk height of the palm clusters shall be staggered within the cluster by two feet. 2. Add four additional columns in the locations discussed during the meeting. If those columns are added, they shall be the same color as the proposed columns. If only two columns are to be added, the priority shall be on the Tustin Street side. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 5 of 14 SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Carol Fox, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott and Craig Wheeler NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Imboden MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 6 of 14 New Aeenda Items: (3) DRC No. 4785 -15 OUTLETS AT ORANGE • Outlets at Orange Phase Il expansion, of 60,000 SF consisting of three new structures on the east side of the regional commercial shopping center. • 20 The City Drive • Staff Contact: Robert Garcia, 714 - 744 -7231, r ag rciaAcityoforange org • DRC Action: Final Determination Robert Garcia, Senior Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. Andrew Davies, Darrel Hebenstreit and Soo Wai -Kim were present to answer questions from the DRC. Public Comments: Chair McCormack opened the item to the Public for comments. Wayne King, address on file, stated that if the parking lot was owned by the City of Orange that the citizens should have something to say about it. He was informed it was not owned by the City. Chair McCormack opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The DRC asked the Applicant questions about the plans related to the ground material /pavers, the trash enclosure location and screening material, the landscape concept, the relocation of the palms, and the palm heights. The DRC commented on the following: • The proposed update of a portion of the shopping center will result in an eclectic aesthetic. It will be important for future renovations to bring it all together visually. • A concern with the tall thin sign on A2.05 on Building M calling for a stone veneer. It was felt a metal material would be more appropriate. • That the type of material used on the screen wall be called out on the plans. • Concerns with the size of the Agave americana (Century plant), the spacing of the Agave vilmoriniana (Octopus agave), and height of the date palms and the Golf Ball kohuhu. • It was suggested grass along the edge of the landscaping be used instead of Lantana and Rosemary. Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve DRC No. 4785 -15, Outlets at Orange, based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report, and with the additional conditions: 1. The screen wall material shall be designated as the "S" material on the plans. 2. The 45' tall tower material on Building "M" shall change from stone to an aluminum frame. 3. The date palm trees in the legend indicated as 24" box shall be changed to the brown trunk height above 12'. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 7 of 14 4. The Agave americana shall be changed to a 60" on- center spacing. 5. The Agave vilmoriniana shall be changed to a 48" on- center spacing. 6. The Rosemary along the sidewalk edges and the Lantana that are located in small planters shall be replaced with an upright strappy plant that is non- prunable. 7. The Golf Ball kohuhu shall be replaced with something less tall. 8. Prior to the issuance of the building permit, a color and materials board for the site materials shall be reviewed by the DRC. SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Carol Fox, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott and Craig Wheeler NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Imboden MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 8 of 14 (4) DRC No. 4748 -14 — LA RUSSA RESIDENCE ADDITION • A proposal to construct a rear addition to a contributing single family residence in the Old Towne Historic District. • 125 N. Cleveland Street • Staff Contact: Kelly Ribuffo, 714- 744 -7223, kribuffokcityoforange.org • DRC Action: Preliminary Review Kelly Christensen Ribuffo, Associate Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. She was asking the DRC for feedback on the project. Frank LaRussa, property owner, and Terry Booth were present to answer questions from the DRC. Public Comments Chair McCormack opened the item to the Public for comments. Jeff Frankel, OTPA, agreed with the Staff Report's evaluation. He felt the roof configuration in the rear was not consistent with this style of architecture, and it did not comply with the Old Towne Design Standards or the Secretary of Interior's Standards. He felt a large defining feature was being removed on the rear elevation. He had questions on the window trim and noted the material on the siding, windows and door was not called out on the plans. He thought the addition should be a bit smaller to avoid altering the roof. He stated OTPA wanted to keep the same style roof and use in -kind material. Chair McCormack opened the item to the Committee for discussion. Mr. LaRussa discussed the changes to the roof line and the square footage of the kitchen. Mr. Booth indicated the changes would be on the back of the house and would not be seen. The DRC commented on the following: • Lack of demarcation line differentiating the addition from the historic house. • Design of outriggers on addition to closely match historic design. • Concern with the dutch gable. • Reuse historic fabric on the rear of the house. • Secretary oflnterior's Standards state that additions are to look distinct, and should typically be offset from the historic portion of the home. This could be done by offsetting the addition by 2 ", or changing the siding width or orientation. • Concern with the removal of the corbels. They are character - defining features, and should be kept. • Reuse existing corbels and windows. • Concern with the pitch of the roof. Suggested making it a shed roof and lowering the pitch to 1:12. • Have staff show applicant examples of service porches. • Offsetting the roof is not required, but shingles should match existing. • Asked for an indication as to what extent the demolition on the rear elevation would be. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 9 of 14 • Confusion on the window material — the staff report indicates wood windows but the window schedule calls out for vinyl windows. Correct the window schedule to indicate wood windows. • Include window and door details. • Would like to see the bathroom window drawn on the north elevation as a hidden line. • Question on the crawl space access and water heater location. • Provide a complete color and materials board. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 10 of 14 (5) DRC No. 4770 -14 — QUALITY ALUMINUM FORGE • All former structures on the site have been demolished. The proposal is to construct a new 40,056 square foot industrial building with an additional 446 square feet of mezzanine and 93 parking spaces. • 740, 764 and, 794 North Cypress Street • Staff Contact: Chad Ortlieb, 714 - 744 -7237, cortliebAcityoforange_org, • DRC Action: Recommendation to the Planning Commission Chad Ortlieb, Senior Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. Tom Calvert, AIA, and Tim Dougherty were present to answer questions from the DRC. Public Comments Chair McCormack opened the item to the Public for comments. There were none. Chair McCormack opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The DRC asked the Applicant questions about the project related to the existing chain link fence and its poor condition, and the fence location. The applicant stated that fencing would be replaced with block retaining wall, chain link and/or tube steel fencing, depending on the location. Applicant stated that new fencing along the Cypress Street frontage was also envisioned. The DRC commented on the following: • Want to see the fencing coordinate with the landscaping, irrigation and lighting. • Questioned the use of the 15 gallon Lantana. Possibly a typo in the size. • Concerned that the landscaping was small in scale to the building. • Suggested replacing the Nicoli Eucalyptus. • Suggested getting an agricultural soil test to ensure the health of the plants. Mr. Ortlieb explained that there are setback regulations for fencing in the industrial zones, and that fencing and gates are not part of this application. A Minor Site Plan Review would be required for future gating of the property. Committee Member Fox made a motion to recommend approval of DRC No. 4770 -14, Quality Aluminum Forge, to the Planning Commission based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report, and with the additional conditions: 1. New fences and gates shall be tubular steel along Cypress Street. 2. The Lantana called out in the plans shall be either 1- or 5- gallon sizes instead of 15 gallon. 3. The applicant shall reconsider the tree count /spacing /rhythm in the south parking lot and change the species to a stronger shade tree (cercidium). City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 11 of 14 With the additional recommendations: 1. The applicant should obtain an agricultural soils report to protect their landscaping investment. SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Carol Fox, Tim McCormack, Anne McDermott and Craig Wheeler NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Imboden MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 12 of 14 (6) DRC No. 4791 -15 — BLAZE PIZZA • A proposal for facade renovations and signage for new tenant Blaze Pizza. • 101 S. Glassell Street • Staff Contact: Kelly Ribuffo, 714 - 744 -7223, kribuffo(a,cityoforange.org • DRC Action: Final Approval Committee Member Wheeler recused himself due to the proximity to his office and left the room. Kelly Christensen Ribuffo, Associate Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. Reza Medali, Owner; Joe E. Teddy, Contractor; and Dave Mann, Visible Graphics, Inc. were present to answer questions from the DRC. Mr. Teddy explained the current condition of the leaded panels and the proposed method of removing the panels for restoration. Mr. Mann discussed the signs to be mounted in the front and back of the building. Public Comments: Chair McCormack opened the item to the Public for comments. Jeff Frankel, address on file, stated OPTA had met with the applicant concerning the project. They would like to see the leaded glass panels stripped in place but if they need to be pulled out, the panels should not be completely releaded but reinforced with solder. They felt the blade and cabinet sign materials were appropriate. He stated that the Old Towne Design Standards under signage stated the sign size and style is to be compatible with the historic building and should not cover or obscure significant architectural detail. He would consider the transom glass panels a significant architectural feature. He also mentioned it would be appreciated if the rear sign could be mounted in the grout joints and not into the brick. Ms. Ribuffo explained that the National Park Service's preservation brief for leaded glass restoration recommends the removal of the panel and laying it flat to allow the bowing to settle naturally, and to make it easier to clean and repair. Chair McCormack opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The DRC asked the Applicant questions about the project related to a previously- rejected sign location, the skeleton neon, the "Fast Fire" letters, mounting the sign in front of the glass windows, the brackets, the second story window frame material, location of the sign on the canopy, the pedestrian signs, the distance from the sidewalk to the blade signs, and paint colors. The DRC commented on the following: • Concern with the letter from Allen Kenoyer Glass which seemed to indicate a lack of familiarity with historic preservation. It needs to be done the right way by someone qualified and experienced or it should just be covered back up. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 13 of 14 • Protective material should be placed around the plaster work above and around all the window openings while under renovation. • DRC requires concealed conduits for lit signs and signs should be mounted in the grout joints. • Concern about the high contrast paint color scheme on the building. DRC suggested bringing down the dark brown paint to a medium brown. • Discussed that two proposed hanging signs should have a rectangular shape without chamfered corners. • The upstairs vinyl window trim should be painted either Greek Villa or Oyster Bar and the downstairs window trim should be brown. • Concerns with the location of the sign on the canopy as well as the size and the support brackets. It appeared to be a box sitting on the canopy edge. • Discussed having a simplified sign without a box and have the `Blaze Pizza" letters without a channel around it. • Suggested pushing the sign on the canopy back 3" and raising it up 2" to 4 ". • DRC liked the circular sign being proposed for the rear of the building and suggested using that design on the front canopy. Regarding requiring a qualified person/firm to restore the glass panels, Ms. Le suggested the DRC could add a condition of approval requiring a qualified person or firm to do the work. She stated that the City cannot recommend specific companies. Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve DRC No. 4791 -15, Blaze Pizza, based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report, and with the additional conditions: 1. Protection of the plaster work shall be in place prior to glazing work. 2. Staff shall vet proper glass restoration by ensuring the work is completed by a qualified contractor. 3. Any broken glass shall be replaced with historic prism glass. 4. All lit signs shall have concealed conduit and shall be mounted through the grout joints. 5. The proposed front lit sign shall be replaced with the circular sign proposed for the rear of the building and shall be in compliance with the code. 6. Struts on the sign shall be as low as possible to make them inconspicuous. 7. The bottom of the circular sign shall be 2" to 4" above the canopy and pushed back 3 ". 8. The proposed paint, Chateau Brown, was not approved. The brown paint shall be 1 or 2 shades lighter than Chateau Brown. 9. The trim around the second story windows shall be either Greek Villa or Oyster Bar. 10. The wood windows downstairs shall be brown. 11. The existing lead in the glass windows shall remain and shall be reinforced with solder. 12. Restoration of the glass transom windows shall follow the guidelines set forth in National Park Service Preservation Brief #33. SECOND: Anne McDermott AYES: Carol Fox, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Imboden ABSTAIN: Craig Wheeler MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for May 6, 2015 Page 14 of 14 ADJOURNMENT: Committee Member McDermott made a motion to adjourn to the next regularly scheduled Design Review Committee meeting on May 20, 2015. SECOND: Carol Fox AYES: Carol Fox, Tim McCormack, and Anne McDermott NOES: None ABSENT: Robert Imboden and Craig Wheeler MOTION CARRIED. Meeting adjourned at 9:38 p.m.