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2015-04-01 DRC Final MinutesCITY OF ORANGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - FINAL Committee Members Present: Tim McCormack -Chair Carol Fox —Vice Chair Robert Imboden Craig Wfieeler Staff in Attendance: Jennifer 1,e. Acting Principal Planner Robert Garcia, Senior Planner Jeff Borchardt, Assistant Planner Sharon Penttila, Recording Secretary Administrative Session — Sc00 Chair McCormack opened the Administrative Session at 5.09 p.m_ April 1 , 201 5 Chair McCormack inquired if there was any Policy or Procedural information_ Jennifer Le, Acting Principal Planner, stated there was one correction on the agenda regarding Item #4, URC No_ 4781 - 14, in which the DRC action was listed as "Final Determination" and it should have been "Recommendation to the Zoning Administrator_" "this action appears correctly in the Staff Report_ She also formally introduced the new DRC member, Anne McDermott, who will be joining the Committee in an ofl3ci al capacity at the next meeting_ Committee Members reviewed the Design Review Committee minutes for March 4, 201 5 and March 18, 2015. Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to close the Administrative Session of the Design Review Committee meeting. SGCONDc Robert Im boden AYES. Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, 'Vim McCormack, and Craig Wheeler NOES: None MOTION CARRIED_ Administrative Session adjourned at 520 p.m. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for April 1, 2015 Page 2 of 8 Regular Session — 5:30 p.m. ROLL CALL: All Committee Members were present. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: Opportunity for members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on matters not listed on the Agenda. There were no speakers. CONSENT ITEMS (1) APPROVAL OF MINUTES: March 4, 2015 and March 18, 2015 Committee Member Imboden made a motion to approve the minutes from the Design Review Committee meetings of March 4, 2015 and March 18, 2015 as emended during the discussion at the Administrative Session. SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Craig Wheeler NOES: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for April 1, 2015 Page 3 of 8 AGENDA ITEMS Continued Items: (2) DRC No. 4624 -12 —Ford and Mazda Dealerships Sign Program • The applicant is proposing to create a sign program for the Ford and Mazda car dealership. • 1350 -1360 West Katella Avenue • Staff Contact: Robert Garcia • DRC Action: Final Determination Robert Garcia, Senior Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. He stated this item was previously reviewed by the DRC on March 6, 2013. The DRC's previous concerns were discussed in the staff report. Mr. Garcia stated that the applicant and staff have been working together to resolve these concerns. Committee Member McCormack wanted to know if there was a common thread between the various proposals submitted in 1999, 2006 and 2013. Mr. Garcia indicated there was never a comprehensive sign program established. The applicants who were present for this project were Robert May, Warner LeMenager and Michael Kitzmiller. Mr. May stated the signs have been added over the years one by one. He and Mr. Garcia have gone out and measured all the signs and he is trying now to get all the signs into compliance. Mr. LeMenager explained that he has been involved in this for 2 years and would like to get this resolved. Public Comments Chair McCormack opened the item to the Public for comments. There were none. Chair McCormack opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee had questions and concerns on the following: • Wanted clarification as to the allowable sign area requirement, based on the street frontage calculation described in the Staff Report. Question as to whether there is a maximum sign area and if it is 1.5 times the building frontage. Two - thirds on one wall and two - thirds on another wall exceeds the 1.5 times frontage requirement. • Mr. Garcia explained it was in compliance as long as there was no more than two - thirds of the allowed square footage on any one wall. He noted the Code Section 17.36.080 B.2 which explained this requirement. • Question as to whether a possible code interpretation may be needed, and whether this is typically how the sign code is applied. The City needs to apply the code consistently as it relates to the maximum sign area requirement. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for April 1, 2015 Page 4 of 8 • The last time DRC reviewed this project, it had the same issues where there was a lot of signage and confusion. Now the Applicant is asking for more signage. DRC would object to this project if it was going over the allowable signage requirement. If the maximum allowed area is exceeded, the sign program will need to come back to the DRC for approval. • What has changed between the 2013 meeting and now? Mr. Garcia responded by saying having accurate signage dimensions and placement. • Some of the older installed signs were bigger than previously approved. • There are a lot of signs currently and more are being added. Two new signs are being proposed to be added — one for Hertz and one for Quick Lane. • At the last DRC meeting, the Committee commented that if the Applicant was asking for more signage that the DRC suggested they give up one of the other signs, since they already had more signage than allowed. • In the staff report there are a number of items that were taken from the last meeting, and one of them was the inconsistent use of fonts, sizes, shapes and colors which still seem present. • The proposed W8 sign is bigger now. • Concern that more signs are being added to clarify other signs. • Discussed with the Applicant - eliminating redundant "service" signs. • Concern with the signs on the west elevation. DRC suggested getting rid of the big "service" sign and replacing it with smaller size "service" signs. • There is too much visual clutter with the multiple double "exit" and "enter" signs with different colors and fonts. • Discussed reducing the size of the double "exit" and "enter" signs with the Applicant. • DRC did not have concerns about the freestanding signs or the directional signage. Committee Member Imboden made a motion to approve DRC No. 4624 -12 based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report and with the additional conditions: 1. The redundant use of "enter" and "exit" shall be removed so that the upper box holds "service" and the lower box holds either "enter" or "exit ", and that the font in the new signs match the existing ones in color and type face in the signs identified as D7 -D 11. 2. The sign program shall eliminate the "service" sign labeled as W7. 3. Staff shall re- review the maximum allowable area of signage for the building and if the application of the Orange Municipal Code was not done in a conventional manner as it is typically done, then the application shall return to the DRC for review. SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Craig Wheeler NOES: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for April 1, 2015 Page 5 of 8 New Agenda Items: (3) DRC No. 4789 -15 — Village at Orange Main Mall Facade Remodel • A proposal to remodel the facade of the main mall and adjacent landscape /hardscape. • 1500 E. Village Way • Staff Contact: Jeff Borchardt, (714) 744 -7224, jborchardt@cityoforange.org • DRC Action: Final Determination Jeff Borchardt, Assistant Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. He reported since the November 19, 2014 meeting, the Applicants have added lighting plans, the loading area screening elements have been reduced in scale, and comprehensive plans showing the whole proposed facade, hardscape, and landscaping including the Home Goods facade are now included. Jeff Axtell, Cosbey Watson, Jim Baldovin, Branko Prebanda and Deborah Loayza were in attendance for the project. Public Comments Chair McCormack opened the item to the Public for comments. There were none. Chair McCormack opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee discussed the proposal's responsiveness to each of their comments from the November 19, 2014 meeting and determined a majority of the comments were addressed. Discussion was had on the following: • The type of lighting used at the entries and the placement of the pole lights in each entrance area. • Ensuring that the lighting was soft and had a warm glow. • Ensuring the new perforated metal screening /signage on the top of the building will blend in with the outlying buildings. • How the vertical elements were treated. • Roof plan not clear on how far the vertical elements project back and how far they return. • Clarification on what is proposed in the entrance adjacent to Walmart with regards to landscaping, paving, the planter box, and removal of the existing landscaped berm. • Ensuring that the proposed pattern of the pavers respond to the new half circles. Committee Member Carol Fox made a motion to approve DRC No. 4789 -15 based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report. SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Craig Wheeler NOES: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for April 1, 2015 Page 6 of 8 (4) DRC No. 4781 -14, AA No. 0223 -15, and MNSP No. 0800 -14 Village at Orange Parking lot Remodel • A proposal to reorient the parking and access on either side of Village Way between the pad tenants and the main mall building, and create a new drop -off area. • 1500 E. Village Way • Staff Contact: Jeff Borchardt, (714) 744 -7224, jborchardt(j�cityoforange.org • DRC Action: Recommendation to the Zoning Administrator Jeff Borchardt, Assistant Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. He stated the applicant and the SRC have worked together to address the entryway by closing off several driveways. The focus now is the hardscape and landscaping. Jeff Axtell, Cosbey Watson, Jim Baldovin, Branko Prebanda and Deborah Loayza were in attendance for the project. Public Comments Chair McCormack opened the item to the Public for comments. There were none. Chair McCormack opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee had the following comments: • Driveway removals affect the queuing of the cars in that area, which improves the aesthetics. • Landscaping of the center of the driveway. If this area is flat lawn, it might become a pedestrian waiting area. The Applicant explained that it was proposed to be an unmowed ornamental grass species. • Concern with zero curbs and ramps at entry area, specifically the transition between areas with a 0 -inch curb face and those with a 6 -inch curb face. • If paving was raised in certain spots, it would be a traffic calming area causing people to slow down. Also, the transition of curb height from 0 inches to 6 inches could be a potential tripping hazard and the use of a planter may remedy the problem. Ms. Le stated if the DRC can communicate what the aesthetic result should be as part of their condition, staff can ensure compliance as part of plan check. Committee Member Fox made a motion to recommend approval to the Zoning Administrator for DRC No. 4781 -14, AA No. 0223 -15 and MNSP No. 0800 -14 based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report and with the additional condition: 1. If the hardscape plan deviates from what is on the plans, in order to accommodate the curb versus drive slope transition, planters shall be added near the drop -off area to accommodate the transition if necessary. SECOND: Craig Wheeler AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Craig Wheeler NOES: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for April 1, 2015 Page 7 of 8 5) DRC No. 4784 -15 — Village at Orange Buffalo Wild Wings Facade • A proposal to remodel the fagade of a tenant space within the main mall building at the Village at Orange to accommodate a new restaurant (Buffalo Wild Wings). The tenant space is located on the north side of the main mall building adjacent to the entrance between the main mall and Wal -Mart. • 1500 E Village Way, Suite 2295 • Staff Contact: Jeff Borchardt, (714) 744 -7224, jborchardtA ofy orange.org • DRC Action: Final Determination Jeff Borchardt, Assistant Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. Mark Spatz and Michael Ayaz, representing the applicant, were on hand for questions. Public Comments Chair McCormack opened the item to the Public for comments. Jeff Axtell, address on file, stated the mall has worked with the tenant over several months to come up with this elevation and the mall was in support of what they have submitted. Chair McCormack opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee had comments on the following: • Responded favorably to the yellow paint color contrasting with the gray color on the plans. • The need to redo the concrete because of the poorly -done concrete currently in the area. • All exterior finishes will tie back to the mall standard. • Discussion of existing versus new parapets. • The need to tie in the paving to the remainder of the mall. Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve DRC No. 4784 -15 based on the findings and conditions listed in the Staff Report and with the additional condition: 1. If there is any disruption to the paving at the fagade and during the patio construction process, the paving shall be restored to match the adjacent new paving that is being put in by the mall. SECOND: Robert Imboden AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Craig Wheeler NOES: None MOTION CARRIED. City of Orange — Design Review Committee Final Meeting Minutes for April 1, 2015 Page 8 of 8 ADJOURNMENT: Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to adjourn to the next regularly scheduled Design Review Committee meeting on April 15, 2015. SECOND: Carol Fox AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Craig Wheeler NOES: None MOTION CARRIED. Meeting adjourned at 8:30 p.m.