2015-01-21 DRC Final MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES -FINAL
Cotrtirtittee Members Present: Robert Imboden -Chair
Tini McCox —Vice Chair
C7 arol Fox
Craig Wheeler
January 21, 201 5
StaF£ in Attendance: Jennifer Le, Senior Planner
Marissa Moshier, Associate Planner - Historic Preservation
Anne Fox, Contract Planner
C7had Ortlieb, Senior Planner
Sharon Penttila, Recording Secretary
Administrative Session — 5:00
Chair Imboden opened the Administrative Session at 5:07 p_nz.
Chair hr�boden inquired if there was any Policy or Procedural information. Jennifer Le, Senior
Planner, introduced Sharon Penttila acting as the Recording Secretary_
Ms_ Le noted it was time again for elections which would be agendized at the next meeting.
Marissa Moshier, Associate Planner — Historic Preservation, shared information on two prof acts to
Old Towne_ St_ John Lutheran Church is planning repairs and nzaintenancc to the sanctuary building
starting at the beginning of February_ The building will have scaffolding on all clew ations for the
duration of the project.
Ms. Mosltier also explained that the project at 437 S_ Olive is going to the Planning Comn on
Febniary 2, 2015_ The PC7 approved the project in June 2013 with recommendations from the DRC'._
The applicant is requesting a change to the approved window material_ Based on the conditions
included in the project, the Community Development Director has made a determination that the
change requires another public hearing_ Because there are two DRC tiietizbers recusitzg themselves,
there will not be a quorum for the item; therefore, it will go directly to tfie Planning Cotrtrnission_
Cotr�m ittee Member Fox raised the issue of potential disincentives for unpex'ti�itted detrtolition of
historic resources. Ms_ Le indicated discussion of the Demolition Review Ordinance will be
tentatively agendizcd on the DRC tnccting held on March 4, 2015_
Committee Member Wheeler asked if applicants could be encouraged to submit plans with a graphic
scale ott each sheet that is not printed to standard scale-
-1—tic Committee Mctrtbcrs reviewed the treeting minutes from the Design Revicw Committee
meeting of Dccan 1 7, 2014.
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Committee Member Fox made a motion to close the Administrative Session of the Design Review
Committee meeting.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
MOTION CARRIED.
Administrative Session adjourned at 5:25 p.m.
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Regular Session — 5:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
All Committee Members were present.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION:
Opportunity for members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on matters not
listed on the Agenda.
There were no speakers.
CONSENT ITEMS
(1) APPROVAL OF MINUTES: December 17, 2014
Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to approve the minutes from the Design Review
Committee meeting of December 17, 2014 as emended during the discussion at the Administrative
Session.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
MOTION CARRIED
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AGENDA ITEMS
Continued Items: None
New Agenda Items:
(2) DRC No. 4780 -14 — SEND GRID SIGNS
• A proposal to install two wall signs on a non - contributing building in the Old Towne Historic
District.
• 814 W. Chapman Avenue, Old Towne Historic District
• Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, 714 - 744 -7243, mmoshier@cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Committee Member Wheeler suggested that this item could be approved without discussion.
Public Comments
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Public for comments. There were none.
Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve DRC 4780 -14 based on the findings and
conditions listed in the staff report.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack, and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(3) DRC No. 4740 -14 — CC PROPERTIES RESIDENCE
In association with the rehabilitation of a contributing residence and construction of one
apartment unit and a one -car garage on property in the Old Towne Historic District, DRC
review of the final landscape plan, design of the contributing building's rear porch, and
design elements of the new building. On November 5, 2014, the DRC recommended
approval of the project to the Planning Commission with the condition that the above design
elements return to the DRC for final review and approval prior to issuance of a building
permit. On December 15, 2014, the Planning Commission approved the project subject to
conditions.
• 128 N. Pixley Street, Old Towne Historic District
• Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, 714 - 744 -7243, mmoshier@cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Committee Member McCormack recused himself and left the room.
Marissa Moshier, Associate Planner Historic Preservation, presented a project overview consistent
with the Staff Report.
Jon Califf, architect, noted that the landscape plan does not show the retained rear porch on the
contributing building and that the architectural drawings should prevail. Also the original version
enclosed both sides of the porch but the final version left one side open. The upper windows on the
east entry elevation are symmetrical and there wasn't any way to move the porch over to the middle.
Public Comments
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Public for comments. A member of the public asked to look
at the plans but had no comment.
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion.
The Committee asked the applicant questions about the fencing, paving materials, and the ribbon
driveways and parking areas between the two residences.
Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to approve DRC 4740 -14 based on the findings and
conditions listed in the staff report, with the following additional conditions:
1. The DRC recommends that the applicant study other approaches to the ribbon driveways on
the south side of the property.
2. Architectural drawing shall dictate the porch treatment on the contributing building over the
landscape plan.
3. Architectural drawing shall dictate the window locations on the second story of the new
building over the color renderings.
SECOND: Carol Fox
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
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RECUSED: Tim McCormack
MOTION CARRIED.
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(4) DRC No. 4741 -14 — THE LAN LE DUPLEX
• A proposal to demolish an existing single family residence in order to construct a duplex
development consisting of two detached dwelling units on an existing parcel.
• 4520 East Washington Avenue
• Staff Contact: Anne Fox, 714- 744 -7236, afox ,cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Anne Fox, Contract Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. Ms. Fox
noted there is concern with staff that the elements and design approach are lacking. The applicants
have completed their application but it is being brought before the DRC to discuss solutions and
direction.
Mr. Lan Le, applicant, did not have any additional information to add to the presentation.
Public Comments
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Public for comments. There were none.
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee had multiple
concerns and questions. There were inconsistencies in the drawings such as the roof pitch, number
of risers, window placement and change of plane.
Other concerns included access to open space; project development; east and west elevation sheets
labels were switched; detail on foam moldings; cornice molding; material on garage door; column
and pilaster elements; neighborhood compatibility; lack of style; scale needs to be brought down;
outdoor living space; conflicting forms; colliding roofs; windows and entry elements; heaviness of
foam; landscape design; livable space; lack of shade; and the curb cut.
The Committee suggested they pick a style and research the elements of that style and apply those
principles. Also they requested that when the project comes back that the drawings be complete as
well as consistent and accurate; encouraged them to look at the window choices as well as the
relationship of the upstairs and downstairs elements; and make the site plan /landscape plan more
sustainable and developed.
Committee Member Craig Wheeler made a motion to continue DRC 4741 -14 in accordance with the
suggestions and guidance given during the meeting.
SECOND: Carol Fox
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
MOTION CARRIED.
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(5) DRC No. 4776 -14 — LEMON GROVE
• A proposal to construct 82 multiple- family dwelling units as an affordable rental housing
complex on a total of 3.54 acres.
• 1148 North Lemon Street
• Staff Contact: Chad Ortlieb, 714- 744 -7237, cortlieb(a,cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Recommendation to the City Council
Chad Ortlieb, Senior Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report. He
clarified it would be enhanced paving used instead of turf block as stated in the staff report.
Todd Cottle, from C &C Development, explained the background of the project and what is currently
being proposed on the property.
Public Comments
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Public for comments. There were none.
Mr. Cottle and Barry Adnams, architect from Housing Development Corporation, were present to
answer questions and concerns of the Design Review Committee.
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee had questions for
the applicant regarding the balconies on the upper floors, window mullions, the front elevation on
Buildings A and C, the covered parking area, windows on the end units closest to the railroad tracks,
stone veneer ending at an exterior corner, dimension of the stone wrapped wall elements, faux
windows on the storage building, carport roofs, circular vents, pole mounted light fixtures, Fire
Department laddering requirements as related to landscaping trees, pervious pavers, and the storm
drain system.
Committee Member Fox made a motion to recommend approval to the City Council of DRC 4776-
14 based on the findings and conditions listed in the staff report and with the following additional
conditions:
1. The six locations outlined by the Fire Department where the groupings of 2 trees are in
conflict with laddering need to be reduced to 1 tree centered within the space.
2. Where there is stone veneer on the building that it always wraps to a reentrant corner.
3. The front elevation of Building A return to the Design Review Committee prior to issuance
of the building permit and the redesign of that elevation takes into consideration additional
roof forms to break up the mass of the fagade. The recommendation is to either reduce the
mass on the third floor or to increase the amount of roof on the lower floors in some manner.
And with the following recommendation:
Out of concern for the viability of the proposed landscape in the bioswale the DRC
recommends that the civil engineer and landscape architect check the hydrology in the
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bioswale and determine whether or not the proposed landscape can survive the quantity of
water.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
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ADJOURNMENT:
Committee Member McCormack made a motion to adjourn to the next regularly scheduled Design
Review Committee meeting on February 4, 2015.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting adjourned at 7:28 p.m.