2014-11-19 DRC Final MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES - FINAL
Committee Members Present:
Robert Imboden - Chair
Tim McCormack — Vice Chair
Carol Fox
Craig Wheeler
November 19, 2014
Staff in Attendance: Jennifer Le, Senior Planner
Chad Ortlieb, Senior Planner
Marissa Moshier, Associate Planner — Historic Preservation
Jeff Borchardt, Assistant Planner
Angie Cisneros, Recording Secretary
Administrative Session — 5:00
Chair Imboden opened the Administrative Session at 5:09 p.m.
Chair Imboden inquired if there was any Policy or Procedural information. Jennifer Le stated there
were none, but inquired about anticipated DRC Member attendance at the December DRC meetings.
The Committee Members reviewed the meeting minutes from the Design Review Committee
meeting of November 5, 2014.
Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to close the Administrative Session of the Design
Review Committee meeting.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Tim McCormack, Robert Imboden, Craig Wheeler and Carol Fox
NOES: None
Administrative Session adjourned at 5:12 p.m.
MOTION CARRIED.
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Regular Session — 5:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
All Committee Members were present.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION:
Opportunity for members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on matters not
listed on the Agenda. There were no public comments.
CONSENT ITEMS
Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve the minutes of November 5, 2014, from the
Design Review Committee, as emended during the discussion at the Administrative Session.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Tim McCormack, Robert Imboden, Carol Fox and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
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AGENDA ITEMS:
Continued Items: None
(2) DRC No. 4767 -14 — Fine Tattoo Work Signs
A proposal to add signage to a non - contributing building in the Old Towne Historic District.
• 745 W. Chapman Avenue, Old Towne Historic District
• Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, (714) 744 -7243, mmoshiergcit ofd orange.org
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Marissa Moshier, Associate Planner — Historic Preservation, presented a project overview consistent
with the Staff Report.
Public Comments
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Public for comments. There were none.
Chantal Patterson, applicant, was present to answer questions and concerns of the Design Review
Committee.
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee asked the
applicant detailed questions about the paint on the sign.
Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve DRC 4767 -14 — Fine Tattoo Work Signs based
on the findings and conditions listed in the staff report, with the following additional conditions:
• The black paint shall match the sheen level of the existing signs.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Robert Imboden, Carol Fox, Tim McCormack and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
MOTION CARRIED.
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(3) DRC No. 4775 -14 — Carpenter Service Porch
• A proposal to reconstruct a demolished rear service porch on a contributing building in the
Old Towne Historic District.
• 828 E. Washington Avenue, Old Towne Historic District
• Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, (714) 744 -7243, mmoshierkcityoforange.orJz
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Marissa Moshier, Associate Planner — Historic Preservation, presented a project overview consistent
with the Staff Report.
Public Comments
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Public for comments. There were none.
Mike Williams, applicant, Cross Design & Construction, was present to answer questions and
concerns of the Design Review Committee.
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion. Committee members expressed
concerns noting the following specific comments:
• Discussed different periods of construction for the porch. Ms. Moshier explained Staff's
approach to determining that the entire porch (prior to demolition) was a contributing feature.
• The drawings were from the original building permit for foundation repairs and interior
remodeling and do not address the reconstruction.
• The demolition of the service porch without a permit. Ms. Moshier explained the procedure
for demolition review in the Orange Municipal Code, including potential penalties for
unpermitted demolition. DRC expressed concern that the review process may not
sufficiently address unpermitted demolition. DRC requested that the staff report include
information about the review process for the unpermitted demolition and proposed
reconstruction.
• Plans are unclear as to the location for reuse salvaged historic materials.
• Questioned the California Historical Building Code.
• Encouraged verification of compliance with Building Code Title 24 energy requirements that
affect the roof thickness /pitch.
The Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to continue DRC 4775 -14 — Carpenter Service
Porch.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Craig Wheeler, Tim McCormack, Robert Imboden, and Carol Fox
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
MOTION CARRIED.
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(4) DRC No. 4766 -14 — Wendy's
• The applicant proposes to modify the fagade of an existing free - standing 2,428 square foot
building occupied by a fast food restaurant ( Wendy's) with a drive through. 17 square feet
of new building area is proposed.
• 1237 North Tustin Street
• Staff Contact: Chad Ortlieb, (714) 744 -7237, cortlieb@cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Chad Ortlieb, Senior Planner presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Public Comments
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Public for comments. There were none.
Lazarus Days, owner, was present to answer questions and concerns of the Design Review
Committee.
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee discussed the
details of the security light fixtures, the architectural feature /sign on the front elevation, cornice
details, brick pattern, and change of plane between the corrugated metal and the stucco.
Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to approve DRC 4766 -14 — Wendy's based on the
findings and conditions listed in the staff report, with the following additional conditions as follows:
• The cornice at the rear portions of the building be replaced with the new cornice of
rectangular profile to match that used on the front elevation.
• That the tile identified as T1, shown on the elevation be stacked bond instead of running
bond as shown on the drawings.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Craig Wheeler, Tim McCormack, Robert Imboden, and Carol Fox
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(5) DRC No. — 4769 -14 — Village at Orange Remodel
• A proposal to modify the exterior fagade and adjacent hardscape /landscape for the main mall
buildings and building K/I currently occupied with a Party City, Tuesday Morning, Fantastic
Sams, and several other retail tenants at the Village at Orange.
• 1500 E Village Way
• Staff Contact: Jeff Borchardt, (714)- 744 -7224, jborchardtgcityoforanP_e.org
• DRC Action: Preliminary Comments
Jeff Borchardt, Assistant Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Public Comments
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Public for comments. There were none.
Deborah Loayza, PR Architects, Cosbey Watson Jr., JM Baldwin, and Branko Prebanda were
present to answer questions and concerns of the Design Review Committee.
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion. Committee Members discussed
details of the project with the following comments:
• Provide shade and appropriate lighting at the plaza/entry, perhaps through a trellis or raised
roof element.
• Positive feedback for a dramatic entry and the two symmetrical water features.
• Design should disperse traffic throughout the site closer to Tustin Street, rather than at the
building entry. Suggestion to move the main drive aisle away from the building, while
moving pedestrians closer to the building. Support for a drop off area at the entry, to address
pedestrian/vehicle interface concern. Important to balance drive aisle modifications with the
need to provide adequate parking.
• Encouraged using bollards at the entry to minimize red curb.
• Landscaping should be a consistent and strong element. Landscaping at the entry should
emphasize shade and incorporate tall landscape elements. Discussed incorporating a wide
end island closest to the storefronts.
• Lighting should be designed with a hierarchy and theme. Suggestion for warm pedestrian -
oriented lighting in the plaza/entry.
• Positive feedback regarding articulation and palette.
• New metal siding should be similar to the material used at the outlying restaurant buildings
to tie the restaurants pads to the main building.
• Ensure that vertical elements include returns and cornices that wrap around to the rear.
• Provide appropriate mechanical equipment screening material.
• Discussed sign package, to include monument signs, pylons, and directional signage.
• Discussed that no substantial work is proposed at the outlying buildings (wood trellis
elements may be removed). Concern that outlying buildings may not match the main
building. Encouraged using landscaping as a means of tying the outlying buildings to the
main building.
• Discussed that the Walmart, Sears and JC Penny's buildings were not a part of the proposal.
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• Encouraged possible creative solutions to address cart corrals, paint, and arched parapet at
the Walmart entry.
This was a preliminary review; therefore, no action was taken by the DRC.
MOTION CARRIED
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ADJOURNMENT:
Committee Member Fox made a motion to adjourn to the next regularly scheduled Design Review
Committee meeting on December 3, 2014.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Robert Imboden, Craig Wheeler, Carol Fox and Tim McCormack
NOES: None
MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting adjourned at 7:54 p.m.