2014-05-07 DRC Final MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES - FINAL
May 7, 2014
Committee Members Present: Robert Imboden - Chair
Tim McCormack — Vice Chair
Carol Fox
Craig Wheeler
Joe Woollett
Committee Members Absent: None
Staff in Attendance: Anna Pehoushek, Principal Planner
Angie Cisneros, Recording Secretary
Administrative Session — 5:00 p.m.
Chair Member Imboden opened the Administrative Session at 5:00 p.m.
Chair Member Imboden opened a discussion regarding technical issues related to inconsistencies in
historic property status ratings in the various surveys that have been conducted over the years. He
discussed the manner in which the State Office of Historic Preservation looks at historic property
listing and challenges that inconsistent survey information creates for the DRC in project review.
Chair Member Imboden stated there was no Policy or Procedural information.
The Committee Members reviewed the meeting minutes from the Design Review Committee
meeting of April 16, 2014.
Chair Member Imboden stated that Committee Member Carol Fox would be recused on DRC
4718 -13, and DRC No. 4733 -14.
Committee Member Tim McCormack would be recused on item DRC 4718 -13.
Committee Member Craig Wheeler would be recused on item DRC 4702 -13.
Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to close the Administrative Session of the Design
Review Committee meeting.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Craig Wheeler, and Tim McCormack
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Joe Woollett
Administrative Session adjourned at 5:22 p.m.
MOTION CARRIED.
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Regular Session — 5:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Committee Members Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Craig Wheeler, and Tim McCormack were
present. Joe Woollett was delayed in arrival.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION:
Opportunity for members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on matters not
listed on the Agenda.
CONSENT ITEMS:
Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve the minutes of April 16, 2014 from the Design
Review Committee, as corrected during the discussion at the Administrative Sessions.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Craig Wheeler, and Tim McCormack
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Joe Woollett
MOTION CARRIED.
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AGENDA ITEMS:
Continued Items:
Due to the lack of a voting majority, a motion was made by Committee Member Fox to reorder the
agenda and move Item #2 DRC #4718 -13 to follow Item # 8 DRC No. 4733 -14 on the agenda.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Joe Woollett
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Agenda Items:
Continued Items:
(3) DRC No. 4734 -14 — ELEVEN 10 WEST (THE PICERNE GROUP)
• The applicant proposes to construct a 5- level, approximately 226,511 square -foot residential
building containing 260 units with a maximum building height of 63 feet, 6 inches. The
project building would be designed around three interior courtyards, one of which would
contain a pool.
• 1110 W. Town and Country Road
• Staff Contact: Robert Garcia, 714 - 744 -7231, r ag_ rciakcityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Robert Garcia, Staff Contact, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Public Comments:
None
Brad Perozzi, Applicant, Irwin Yau, Architect and Matt Jackson, Landscape Architect, were present
to answer questions and concerns from the DRC
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion.
Committee Member Fox made a motion to recommend approval to the Planning Commission DRC
No. 4734 -14 based on the findings and the conditions listed in the staff report with the additional
conditions as follows:
The applicant shall submit the following for review and approval by the Design Review Committee
prior to the issuance of building permits:
• A roof top mechanical screening plan.
• A color and material board and final color elevations.
• A lighting plan and lighting fixture cut sheet package.
• A landscape plan that provides a more detailed concept and creative solution for addressing
the east and west elevations.
• That the plan clearly state the elevation offsets for the top floor of the north elevation, which
is to be set back 18 ", and that the vertical offset over the guest parking entry is to be 12 ".
• That the horizontal fiber cement corner detail be a metal reglet for the siding to butt against.
• That other small dimensional transitions be made with metal reveals to coordinate with the
corner detail of the horizontal fiber cement siding.
• That more color be used in the courtyard and the entry to the guest parking garage to animate
the architecture.
The Committee also made the following recommendations:
• That some of the edge condition plant material and green screen on the main drive into the
project on the main drive into the project be echoed onto the opposite side of the road.
• That important trees be bigger than 24" box container size.
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The roof treatment as viewed from the office tower should be given more thought out and the
opportunity to be made more playful.
That special attention be given to maintaining the horizontal railing elements during the
building permit plan check process, as vertical railing elements would result in a very
different project appearance.
SECOND: Tim McCormack
AYES: Carol Fox, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Joe Woollett
ABSENT: None
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New Agenda Items
(4) DRC No. 4692 -13 — Letner Roofing Co.
• A facade remodel was approved by the Design Review Committee (DRC) on July 17, 2013.
The DRC conditioned the project to require the landscaping to return before them. Plans
now before the DRC are exclusively for the project landscaping.
• 1490 N. Glassell Street
• Staff Contact: Chad Ortlieb, 714- 744 -7237, cortlieb @cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Chad Ortlieb, Staff Contact presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Public Comments:
None.
Jim Ridee, Applicant, and Terry Jacobson, J7 Architecture Inc, were present to answer questions and
concerns from the DRC
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion.
Committee Member McCormack made a motion to approve DRC No. 4692 -13 in accordance with
the staff report and with the exclusion of Condition 17, and with the following recommendations:
• That the use of Lantana be reconsidered based on its appearance after trimming over time.
• That the variety of Agave be looked at closely as it relates to dying after blooming.
SECOND: Carol Fox
AYES: Joe Woollett, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack and Craig Wheeler
NOES: Carol Fox
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED
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5) DRC No. 4689 -13 - Miguel's Jr.
• A 2,868 square foot quick serve restaurant received Design Review Committee (DRC)
recommendation for Planning Commission approval on September 18, 2013. The Planning
Commission approved the project with the DRC condition to have the public art component
return. The revised public art component is the subject of the review.
• 1325 N. Tustin Street
• Staff Contact: Chad Ortheb, 714- 744 -7237, cortliebkcit oforange.org
• DRC Action: Final Determination
Chad Ortlieb, Staff Contact presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Public Comments:
None.
Stephen Rezner, Applicant, Javier Vasquez, Owner, and Javier Martinez, MJSSC Holding LLC,
were present to answer questions or concerns from the Committee.
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion. Committee Members provided
positive feedback on the graphics and discussed adjustments to the imagery and method of lighting
its presentation as public art rather than signage.
Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve DRC No. 4689 -13, the artwork presented to
DRC with the following additional conditions:
That the Depot artwork be altered to reflect the same technique used in the Plaza artwork
with respect to the echoing of the central part of the art on both panels of the diptych. With
more of the Depot building depicted, by shifting the image of the Depot to the right so that
one of the windows appears in the right panel of the artwork.
That the size of the tomatoes be reduced so that the agrarian fields in the background are
more discernible and prominent.
That the depiction of avocados in the Plaza artwork be adjusted so that one of them is shifted
to a higher position than the other.
The Committee also made the following recommendations:
• That the lighting of the artwork to be studied for glare.
• That the applicant consider up- lighting the art as opposed to down- lighting it.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Carol Fox, Joe Woollett, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack and Craig Wheeler
NOES:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
ABSENT:
None
MOTION CARRIED
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(6) DRC No. 4702 -13 — Aria Fourplex
• A proposal to convert a single family residence to two studio units and to construct a new
detached, two story building with two additional studio units at the rear of the property. The
existing single family residence is a contributor to the Old Towne Historic District and will
be rehabilitated.
• 429 S. Lemon Street
• Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, (714) 744 -7243, mmoshier @cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Marissa Moshier, Contract Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Public Comments:
Jeff Frankel, Old Towne Preservation Association (OTPA) representative spoke in general support
of the project, with some specific areas of concern including the second story structure and
fences /gates at the back sidewalk.
Paymon Roshan, Aria Property Management and Investment and Trent Hopperber, Landscape
Architect, were present to answer questions or concerns from the Committee.
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee Members
expressed their support for the proposed project, but asked for more information about the stairs
leading to the upper floor of the rear unit. They also discussed the fact that the single window on the
east elevation of the rear unit result in a large blank wall. There was also discussion about the
significant amount of concrete area associated with the driveway and garage access.
Committee Member Fox made a motion to recommend approval of DRC No. 4702 -13 to the
Planning Commission in accordance with the staff findings and conditions of the staff report and
with the following additional conditions:
• That the ribbon driveway be extended to the point of tangency of the curved portions of the
concrete at the rear of the existing building.
• That a window be installed to the rear elevation of apartment #4. It could be either double
hung, to be similar to other double hungs to be used on the structure, or a transom or awning
style window that has the proportions of the windows that are already proposed on the
structure, to relieve the expansiveness of that elevation.
SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES:
Joe Woollett, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack and Carol Fox
NOES:
None
RECUSED:
Craig Wheeler
ABSENT:
None
MOTION CARRIED
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(7) DRC No. 4695 -13 — AT &T Wireless
• A proposal to construct a 45' tall by 12' wide by 12' deep tower to house equipment for a
wireless communication facility in the Old Towne Historic District. The proposed tower
will be integrated with an existing 28' tall structure on a property that contains non-
contributing structures to the Historic District.
• 520 W. Walnut Avenue
• Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, (714) 744 -7243, mmoshier @cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Marissa Moshier, Contact Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Public Comments:
Jeff Frankel, Old Towne Preservation Association (OTPA) stated his concerns about the height and
visibility of the project, and noted OTPA's preference for stealth installation on an existing tower
instead of a new structure.
Sonal Thakur and Ross Milexich, Core Development Services were present to answer questions or
concern from the Committee.
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee was supportive of
the proposal, but had questions about building materials, and the reveal incorporated in the tower.
Committee Member Fox made a motion to recommend approval to the Planning Commission DRC
No. 4695 -13 in accordance with the staff findings and conditions of the staff report and the
following additional conditions:
• That the FRP cladding be further described on the plans.
• That the dimensions of reveal between the upper and lower portion of the tower be 12 ".
• That the material of the exterior cladding of the tower be called out on the elevation.
• That the FRP cladding be formed to match the profile and appearance of the existing metal
siding on the main building.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Joe Woollett, Robert Imboden, Carol Fox, Tim McCormack and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MOTION CARRIED
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(8) DRC No. 4733 -14 — Hoike Duplex
• A proposal to demolish a single family residence and accessory structures and construct a
2,602 square foot one story duplex in the Old Towne Historic District. The existing structures
are non - contributors to the Historic District.
• 455 N. Cypress Street
• Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, (714) 744 -7243, mmoshier @cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
Marissa Moshier, Contact Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff Report.
Public Comments:
Jeff Frankel, Old Towne Preservation Association (OTPA) was present to express concerns
regarding the proposed exterior building materials.
Rick Fox, Applicant, was present to answer questions or concerns from the Committee.
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee Members agreed
that the form, scale, and design of the project were appropriate for the site. However, they debated
the use of vinyl windows and contemporary synthetic siding materials on the building's exterior.
Specific questions were asked about:
• The termination of the siding around the windows.
• The finishing details of the synthetic materials.
• The quality and style of the proposed window and door materials.
• The proposed porch column material.
The Committee also discussed the amount of concrete being used in the walkway and driveway, and
the need to soften its appearance. One means of addressing this issue would be the use of a ribbon
driveway design.
Committee Member Woollett made a motion to continue DRC No. 4733 -14 with direction given to
the applicant:
• That consideration be given to the proposed materials /textures with respect to being
compatible with Old Towne.
• Provide more details on the drawings about termination points of siding, window trim, doors,
and porch columns.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Joe Woollett, Robert Imboden, Tim McCormack and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RECUSED: Carol Fox
MOTION CARRIED
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Committee Member Woollett made a motion to take a 10 minute break.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES: Joe Woollett, Robert Imboden, and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Carol Fox, Tim McCormack
MOTION CARRIED.
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(2) DRC No. 4718 -13 — Culver House
• A proposal to construct a porch and balcony on the east elevation of a historic building and to
reconstruct a rear addition to an accessory structure in the Old Towne Historic District.
• 205 W. Palmyra Avenue
• Staff Contact: Marissa Moshier, (714) 744 -7243, mmoshier @cityoforange.org
• DRC Action: Recommendation to Planning Commission
• Marissa Moshier, Contract Planner, presented a project overview consistent with the Staff
Report.
Public Comments:
Jeff Frankel, Old Towne Preservation Association (OTPA) was present with concerns regarding this
project, related specifically to the proposed balcony addition, the blocking in the windows, the
creation of more porch space and overall level of alteration to the historic property.
Doug Ely, DSE Architecture, was present to answer questions or concern from the Committee.
Chair Imboden opened the item to the Committee for discussion. The Committee raised concerns
about the number of project elements including:
• The extent of window modifications and replacements, and particularly the removal of the
second story window on the east elevation.
• The installation of the double French doors leading to the porch on the first floor of the east
elevation.
• Overall modifications of the rear porch.
• The size and detailing of the proposed balcony support posts.
• The hot water heater door relocation.
• Detailing of structural connections.
Committee Member Woollett made a motion to continue DRC No. 4718 -13 and provided the
applicant with the following direction:
• That consideration be given to elimination of the double French doors at the first floor rear
porch.
• That the second floor window at the north end of the east elevation, be retained and possibly
covered over from the inside.
• That more attention be devoted to the details of the balcony support posts so they are more in
keeping with the styling of the historic structure.
• That consideration be given to other water heater enclosure alternatives.
SECOND: Craig Wheeler
AYES:
Joe Woollett, Robert Imboden, and Craig Wheeler
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
None
RECUSED:
Carol Fox and Tim McCormack
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ADJOURNMENT:
Committee Member Wheeler made a motion to adjourn to the next regular scheduled Design Review
Committee meeting on May 21, 2014.
SECOND: Joe Woollett
AYES: Joe Woollett, Robert Imboden, and Craig Wheeler
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Carol Fox and Tim McCormack
MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting adjourned at 10:29 p.m.