08-07-2019 DRC MinutesCITY OF ORANGE
DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES – FINAL
August 7, 2019
Committee Members Present: Anne McDermott – Chair
Mary Anne Skorpanich – Vice Chair
Tim McCormack
Carol Fox
Robert Imboden
Staff in Attendance: Marissa Moshier, Historic Preservation Planner
Ashley Brodkin, Associate Planner
Kelly Ribuffo, Associate Planner
Jessica Wang, Administrative Specialist
Simonne Fannin, Recording Secretary
Regular Session – 5:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Committee Members McDermott, Skorpanich, Imboden, McCormack, and Fox were present.
FLAG SALUTE:
Vice Chair Skorpanich led the flag salute.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION:
Opportunity for Members of the public to address the Design Review Committee on matters not listed
on the Agenda.
There were no speakers.
CONSENT ITEMS:
(1) APPROVAL OF MINUTES: June 19, 2019
Committee Member Skorpanich made a motion to approve the June 19, 2019 minutes as written.
SECOND: Fox
AYES: McCormack, McDermott, Fox, Skorpanich, and Imboden
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION CARRIED.
AGENDA ITEMS:
Continued Items:
Chair McDermott recused herself from this item due to the proximity of the project to her home. Vice
Chair Skorpanich resumed the meeting.
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(2) Design Review No. 4938-18 – CALVY RESIDENCE
A proposal to construct a 170 square foot addition and make minor exterior alterations to an
existing single-family residence. The property is a contributing resource to the National
Register-listed Old Towne National Historic District. This is the second review by the
Design Review Committee.
231 E. Culver Avenue
Staff Contact: Kelly Ribuffo, 714-744-7223, kribuffo@cityoforange.org
DRC Action: Final Determination
Kelly Ribuffo, Associate Planner, provided an overview of the project consistent with the staff report.
Craig Wheeler, project architect, explained the service porch materials, windows, gable and roof pitch.
Vice Chair Skorpanich opened the public comment portion of the meeting.
Jeff Frankel, representing the Old Towne Preservation Association, spoke in support of the project and
expressed his preference for new wood screens on the windows and removal of the asbestos siding.
Vice Chair Skorpanich closed the public comment portion of the meeting.
The Committee had comments and questions on the following:
The application does not include dimensions.
Low pitch roof follows the ghosting that exists on the bargeboard and the minimal overhang
is because of the limitations of the existing roof.
Recommendation to provide a more generous landing from the bedroom.
Consider flat trim on the corner window.
Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve Design Review No. 4938-18 – Calvy Residence as
submitted.
SECOND: Imboden
AYES: McCormack, Skorpanich, Imboden, and Fox
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: McDermott
MOTION CARRIED.
Chair McDermott returned to the meeting.
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New Agenda Items:
(3) Design Review No. 4972-19 – RUPPE RESIDENCE
A proposal to relocate an existing historic era garage and construct a new 471 square foot
addition to the existing single-family residence. The property is a contributing historic
resource within the Old Towne Historic District.
278 N. Harwood Street
Staff Contact: Kelly Ribuffo, 714-744-7223, kribuffo@cityoforange.org
DRC Action: Final Determination
Kelly Ribuffo, Associate Planner, provided an overview of the project consistent with the staff report.
Carrie Piscotty, representative for the applicant, approached to answer questions.
Chair McDermott opened the public comment portion of meeting.
Jeff Frankel, representing the Old Towne Preservation Association, expressed concerns about the lack
of a line of demarcation between the original house and the new addition. He suggested windows that
are being removed should be reused.
The Committee had the following questions and comments:
The addition lacks a line of demarcation and potential conflicts between restoration and
preservation of the historic structure. The Committee suggested setting the wall back 3
inches which would also make a change in the roofline.
Concerns about building code implications because the addition is within 3 feet of the
property line. Details should be vetted through the Building Department before returning to
the DRC.
The design cannot be achieved if changes are needed for fire protection during plan check.
Concerns with fire protection for the relocation of the garage, as the eaves will be very
close to the property line.
There is too much hardscape, and proposed paving materials are historically inaccurate.
Consider creating a courtyard or alternate materials in the driveway.
The Committee needs more clarification and wants consistency on the windows and reuse
of any windows that are removed.
The French doors in the addition should be replaced with something that does not have
raised panels.
Ensure adequate egress from the bedroom in the addition.
The size of the addition is large on a small lot.
Use pairs of rafters spaced closely to one another on the addition to differentiate it from the
original house.
The roof has slight mortar lifters in the clay roof; do not use lifters on the addition to create
a subtle difference.
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Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve Design Review No. 4972-19 – Ruppe Residence
based on the findings and conditions in the staff report with the additional conditions and
recommendations as follows:
Conditions:
The north wall of the addition shall move away from the property line by a minimum of 3
inches to a 3 foot setback which will automatically make a change in the roof plane to
create demarcation between the new addition and historic structure.
The plaster on the new addition shall be irregular trowel on a sand finish to create a
delineation between new addition and historic structure.
The window trim shall be changed so that there is a small wood lintel to create a delineation
between new addition and historic structure.
Double rafter tails shall be provided at the addition to create a delineation between new
addition and historic structure.
The site plan and window detail shall return to the DRC with an alternate paving material at
the new driveway prior to building permit issuance.
Recommendations:
No boosters on the new roofing in the clay tile.
Foundation planting to soften the hard edge of the house.
SECOND: Imboden
AYES: McCormack, Skorpanich, Imboden, McDermott and Fox
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION CARRIED.
Recess: 7:19 - 7:27
(4) Design Review No. 4979-19 – METSOVAS PLAZA
A request for site modifications and façade improvements to a commercial center (related
to Tustin/Meats intersection improvements).
2091-2097 N. Tustin Street
Staff Contact: Ashley Brodkin, 714-744-7238, abrodkin@cityoforange.org
DRC Action: Final Determination
Ashley Brodkin, Associate Planner, provided an overview of the project consistent with the staff
report.
John Lopez, project designer, approached to answer any questions.
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Chair McDermott opened the public comment portion of the meeting. There were no speakers. She
closed the public comment session and brought it back to the Committee.
The Committee had the following questions and comments:
Impacts to landscaping due to a City project which is reducing the size of the site.
The Committee would like to see a sample of the lime green color that will be used for the
awnings.
The words "glare from" should be removed from Condition #7 of the staff report.
The project's relationship to the Tustin Street Design Standards and the approach used in
previous project reviews.
Concerns about water retention run off when washing the trash enclosure.
Concerns with the lack of landscaping despite the challenges on the site.
The crown molding is very ornate and should be simplified to a square cap with no ogee.
Change the wrought iron elements on the trellis.
Roofing tile should be a flat concrete tile.
Height of the planting material adjacent to Tustin Street and use of diamond cut outs to
allow larger plants.
The Committee and staff discussed challenges in interpreting and conforming to the Tustin Street
Design Standards and the need for direction on how to approach future projects.
Mr. Lopez was in agreement with the Committee's recommendations.
Committee Member Fox made a motion to approve Design Review No. 4979 – 19 - Metsovas Plaza in
accordance with the findings and conditions in the staff report with the following additional conditions
and recommendations:
Conditions:
The S-tile roof material shall be changed to flat roofing tile prior to the issuance of building
permits.
The parapet cap shall be simplified to remove the ogee shape prior to the issuance of
building permits.
The arched element on the wrought iron trellis on the west elevation shall be removed so
that it is rectangular prior to the issuance of building permits.
A return shall be added to the parapet coping on the east elevation mid-level parapet prior
to the issuance of building permits.
The lime green color of the awnings shall return to the Committee for approval prior to
building permit issuance.
Recommendations for landscaping:
Consider how parked cars will affect the viability of the landscape that is proposed.
Provide curb cuts in the planters to allow runoff to be captured.
Create diamond cut outs in parking space corners to allow for trees or larger planting.
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SECOND: Skorpanich
AYES: Skorpanich and Fox
NOES: McCormack, Imboden, McDermott
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION FAILED.
Committee Member Imboden made a motion to move Committee Member Fox's previous motion
forward with an added condition:
The corbels and the blind arches located over the storefront sections of the building shall be
removed from the plans prior to the issuance of building permits.
SECOND: Skorpanich
AYES: Skorpanich, Imboden, McDermott and Fox
NOES: McCormack
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION CARRIED
ADJOURNMENT:
Chair McDermott adjourned the meeting at 8:42 p.m. The next regular meeting is scheduled for
Wednesday August 21, 2019.