Loading...
06-12-2013 - Minutes TCCITY OF ORANGE CITY TRAFFIC COMMISSION Minutes of a Regular Meeting: Tune 12, 2013 I. OPENING A. Flag Pledge B. Roll Call Present - Commissioners: J. Beil, E. Glasgow, W. King Absent - Commissioners: M. Lebeau, C. Vaughan Present - Staff: A. Farahani, D. Allenbach, D. Hoard, Sgt. J. Bird, P. Then C. Approval of Minutes • April 10, 2013 ACTION: Approve as published. MOTION: Beil SECOND: Glasgow AYES: Unanimous NOES: None ABSTAIN: None II. ORAL PRESENTATIONS None this month. III. CONSENT CALENDAR None this month. `g City of rang Public Works Department Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. B June 2013 [N: /Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] 0 0 Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting — City Traffic Commission 1 4111111111F June 12, 2013 IV. CONSIDERATION ITEMS 1. Request for the implementation of a Neighborhood Parking Permit Program on both sides of Cully Dr. from the westerly property lines of 861 and 864 W. Cully Dr. to the cul -de -sac. Chris Howell 702 W. Cully Dr. Orange, Ca. 92865 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. Chairman Beil opened the public hearing for the following discussion: Chris Howell, 702 W. Cully Dr . — I know you have done a couple of studies on the street but I have some photographs I'd like to share with you if I could (submits photos). I talked with Sgt. Bird on this issue it's been an ongoing issue for the last couple of months. This is a lot more than a parking issue it's a safety issue as far as pedestrian traffic in the mornings, and also people trying to get in and out of the street to go to work in the morning because of people being dropped off in proximity to the landscaping yards. The only reason we are asking for this parking by permit because we are getting a lot of strangers in the neighborhood early in the morning, we're getting a lot of graffiti and we've never had this before. For years we have lived with business around on Batavia St. Southern Ave., American Way, Freedom Way, are all businesses and for years nobody from those street has ever affected us until these landscaping businesses moved in around the corner from us. I talked to the Mayor about it and she said that they are tax - paying businesses and they aren't going anywhere she advised me to think about taking my neighborhood to a parking by permit, this is what I have done. 2 neighbors wouldn't sign the petition one way or the other. There is a dog -leg at the top of our street, and there are 2 businesses, there is Noel Electric and Angel's Tree Trimming on each side of the street already, and they are good neighbors. Angel has heavy equipment that he backs into that lot so when you come off a 4 -lane highway on Batavia at 40 MPH at 3:30 pm and he is trying to back that equipment in his driveway, there is no safe pocket when you have cars parked all the way up to the corner with no red curb. We never had these issues until we had these 2 landscape companies move in, they have been there 2 years now and they have grown because the economy is beginning to get better for them, so one yard has 150 trucks, 300 employees walking in the morning we City of Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department � B June 2013 [N:/rraffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] �i# Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regul Meeting I City Traffic Commission June 12, 2013 don't have a crosswalk across Cully Dr. The reason we have issues there is because people are pulling into that street to be dropped off for work and taking 5 -10 minutes while residents from Cully Dr. are waiting to pull out of our street, we can't go around them you have to wait for them to go on. Chairman Beil closed the public hearing and returned the item to the Commission for further discussion and a motion. ACTION: Approved the request and forward to the City Council for final action. MOTION: King SECOND: Glasgow AYES: Unanimous NOES: None ABSENT: Lebeau, Vaughan 2. Request for the removal of green curb markings in front of 303 W. Palm Ave. Kris Olsen Chapman University One University Dr. Orange, Ca. 92866 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. Commissioner King — Is that building still empty, there's nobody in there? Chairman Beil — Chapman has been doing some improvements to the parking lot. ACTION: Approved the removal of the green curb. MOTION: Beil SECOND: King AYES: Unanimous NOES: None ABSENT: Lebeau, Vaughan City of Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department 4W kf:� June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] V# Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting ' City Traffic Commission I` June 12, 2013 3. Request for the installation of red curb markings for the easterly and westerly driveways serving the Coca -Cola Bottling Company at 700 W. Grove Ave. Shanon Pfieffer Coca Cola Refreshments 700 W. Grove Ave. Orange, Ca. 92865 The oral presentation is based on the written staff report, please refer to your copy. Chairman Beil opened the public hearing for the following discussion: Commissioner Glasgow — You're saying that the trucks have a higher line of sight which is true for most trucks, but some of these are day cabs which sit a little lower, do cars use that driveway or just trucks use that driveway? Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst — We've just seen the larger tractor /trailer type rigs using the gated driveways. In the middle driveway there is also a guard shack, and I think most of the time they go in that middle driveway and they exit from the westerly driveway. Teannie Long, Safety Specialist @ Coca Cola — The easterly driveway is our employee driveway and traffic on the street parks right at the edge of our curb and going out of that for anyone in a lower car when pulling out into oncoming traffic you can't see until you're out in the middle of the street, it's a great safety risk. We recently had the Fire Dept. come out to perform their annual inspection and they also had a concern with getting emergency equipment into that driveway if we needed it. The center driveway is where the majority of our truck traffic is, it also has a lot of passenger vehicles coming in and out, we have POS containers which are our point of sale products, all of our paper goods, passenger cars come in and pick that up and they have to go back out that driveway. They also drive out into a blind area. It's true that some of our trucks have a higher line of vision, but when large vehicles are parked right up to the edge of the gate and across the street makes it extremely difficult and unsafe for them to pull out of that driveway. They have no clearance on either side. For the safety of our employees coming and going and for the traffic on Grove we ask you to approve the red curb. Chairman Beil — You're aware of staff's recommendation approving just on the easterly and denying installation on the west sides? City of Tape NCTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department � B June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] V# Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting — City Traffic Commission June 12, 2013 Commissioner Glasgow — Have you any problems where your trucks have clipped the cars, because you do a lot of right turns into your driveways? Teannie Long Safety Specialist @ Coca Cola — No we have not. Chairman Beil closed the public hearing and returned the item to the Commission for further discussion and a motion. Commissioner Glasgow — As somebody who has driven tractor - trailers and have driven in the past, these day cabs are a lower than most of your big rigs and they have bob -tails that go in and out of there also, single axle, they sit even lower. If you have a suburban or a pick -up parked at the curb you may still have a problem with line of sight going both ways. That is such a narrow street, by the time you get a car on each side and you try to pull out with a 35 -45 footer, the turning radius shuts down and closes down. I wouldn't mind seeing the red curb put in at the center gate for those reasons. It is a little more difficult to drive some of the vehicles and now that they are sitting lower it's tougher to see with a bigger truck or vehicle in that area. Amir Farahani, City Traffic Engineer — The middle driveway has an approach of 44 ft. of existing red curb on the west side of the driveway. Jeannie Long, Safety Specialist @ Coca Cola — If you are turning left coming out of that driveway so if there are large vehicles parked across the street, it will still make it difficult if you're turning out right you have more clearance because they park right up to the edge of the driveway. There is no clearance there whatsoever. That's what we're asking for, some clearance on the right side of the driveway. Chairman Beil — It's definitely not a issue of vision zone its the truck turning radius issue at that driveway, really not a vision safety zone issue. ACTION: Approved the installation of 40 ft. of red curb on the east side, and 30 ft. on the west side of the easterly driveway and deny the installation of red curb at the westerly driveway at 700 W. Grove Ave. MOTION: King SECOND: Beil AYES: Unanimous NOES: None ABSENT: Lebeau, Vaughan ` City of Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department A' June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] ro Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting '" City Traffic Commission `%W June 12, 2013 Chairman Beil — My suggestion is that if you're having a truck turning radius issue out of your own access drive that you talk with City staff about what it would take for you to get a permit to expand to more of a commercial size driveway to allow those trucks to make those turns. 4. Request for the installation of red curb markings for the driveway serving Biard & Crockett Plumbing Service at 320 E. Katella Ave. Gregory Biard Biard & Crockett Plumbing Service, Inc. 320 E. Katella Ave. Orange, Ca. 92867 The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. Chairman Beil opened the public hearing for the following discussion: Gregory Biard, 320 E. Katella Ave — The situation that we've been having is relatively recent. We've been at this location 11 years there are 3 other tenants in the center, we are by far the largest and have the most traffic coming in and out. The problem didn't start until the restaurant moved in, which we are happy to have, they have really improved that site and the air smells so good most of the time. I've been told that it's their employees that are parking on the street. The problem is mainly prevalent in the late afternoon; we're not really having a problem in the morning or early afternoon. It's not a safety issue for my employees because they all know about it so they don't dare pull out between 5:30 — 6:00 p.m. you just can't see, so we've got access through a neighboring parking lot we drive through that parking lot onto Shaffer St. and we exit through there. It's my customers I'm worried about; there have been several who have complained that they have almost been hit. My plumbing truck can come and go with no problem, they are sitting up high enough they can see over the cars. If you are in a regular passenger car you can't see you just have to pull out an inch at a time. If you don't want to put in the red curb perhaps you could install time limit parking say from 3 —10 pm. It seems to be in conjunction with the restaurant hours. We have two driveways, an east and a west driveway and we have this situation at both of them. Chairman Beil — Going to Tulsa Rib once I had to park in their back lot and I was shocked there were no employee vehicles there and I figured the employees must be parking off -site or else on the street. City of Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department A. � June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] i# Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting City Traffic Commission 'ROW June 12, 2013 r Gregory Biard, 320 E. Katella Ave - They have quite a bit of parking, the fountain shop which is between us has a lot of parking, it's a conjoined parking lot and they close at 5 pm. Chairman Beil - It appears that they lease their back lot to someone for parking trucks. Gregg Biard, 320 E. Katella Ave - Tulsa has some of their own trucks back there, they do catering. We're not upset with Tulsa, we love having them at this location, it's just that it's a safety issue for my customers, my employees already know better. Chairman Beil - And all of the Biard & Crockett trucks, you have kind of the angled parking so when they come and go they are actually coming in this driveway and going out your westerly driveway. Chairman Beil closed the public hearing and returned the item to the Commission for further discussion and a motion. Commissioner Glasgow - I park on the east side and I go in and out on Shaffer. ACTION: Denied the request. MOTION: Glasgow SECOND: King AYES: Unanimous NOES: None ABSENT: Lebeau, Vaughan Gregg Biard, 320 E. Katella Ave - Is it possible to make another request for restricted hour parking? Chairman Beil - Possibly, you will have to talk with Dave and the staff about the applicability of that. We will be very cautious about putting that in on Katella because there will be mass proliferation. City of Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department A. B June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] ZP Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting ' City Traffic Commission tir/ June 12, 2013 5. Request for the installation of red curb markings on the southeast corner of Rancho Santiago Blvd. and Lomita Ave. Steve Duncan 5261 E. Lomita Ave. Orange, Ca. 92869 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. There were no speakers to this item. ACTION: Denied the request. MOTION: King SECOND: Glasgow AYES: Unanimous NOES: None ABSENT: Lebeau, Vaughan End of Consideration Items V. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS None this month. City of Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department A, B June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] �!� Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting 1411111111111F City Traffic Commission Nr June 12, 2013 VI. ADJOURNMENT After discussion of today's Agenda the City Traffic Commission meeting was concluded, and as there were no further requests for action under Oral Presentations, the Chairman adjourned this session of the City Traffic Commission. The next meeting of the City Traffic Commission is scheduled: 5:30 P.M. Wednesday -August 14, 2013 Respectfully submitted, Phyllis Then, Recording Secretary Traffic Engineering Division pthen @cityoforange.org CITY OF ORANGE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT 300 E. CHAPMAN AVENUE ORANGE CA 92866 PH: (714) 744 -5536 FAX: (714) 744 -5573 City of Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department A' Vt7 June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] V Printed On Recycled Paper CITY OF ORANGE CITY TRAFFIC COMMISSION Minutes of a Regular Meeting: June 12, 2013 I. OPENING A. Flag Pledge B. Roll Call Present — Commissioners: J. Beil, E. Glasgow, W. King Absent — Commissioners: M. Lebeau, C. Vaughan Present — Staff: A. Farahani, D. Allenbach, D. Hoard, Sgt. J. Bird, P. Then C. Approval of Minutes • April 10, 2013 ACTION: Approve as published. MOTION: Beil SECOND: Glasgow AYES: Unanimous NOES: None ABSTAIN: None II. ORAL PRESENTATIONS None this month. III. CONSENT CALENDAR None this month. g City of rang Public Works Department Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744-5536 in this regard, ,avance notice is appreciated. B June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] V4P Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting ' City Traffic Commission 141111111111111F June 12, 2013 IV. CONSIDERATION ITEMS 1. Request for the implementation of a Neighborhood Parking Permit Program on both sides of Cully Dr. from the westerly property lines of 861 and 864 W. Cully Dr. to the cul -de -sac. Chris Howell 702 W. Cully Dr. Orange, Ca. 92865 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. Chairman Beil opened the public hearing for the following discussion: Chris Howell, 702 W. Cully Dr . — I know you have done a couple of studies on the street but I have some photographs I'd like to share with you if I could (submits photos). I talked with Sgt. Bird on this issue it's been an ongoing issue for the last couple of months. This is a lot more than a parking issue it's a safety issue as far as pedestrian traffic in the mornings, and also people trying to get in and out of the street to go to work in the morning because of people being dropped off in proximity to the landscaping yards. The only reason we are asking for this parking by permit because we are getting a lot of strangers in the neighborhood early in the morning, we're getting a lot of graffiti and we've never had this before. For years we have lived with business around on Batavia St. Southern Ave., American Way, Freedom Way, are all businesses and for years nobody from those street has ever affected us until these landscaping businesses moved in around the corner from us. I talked to the Mayor about it and she said that they are tax - paying businesses and they aren't going anywhere she advised me to think about taking my neighborhood to a parking by permit, this is what I have done. 2 neighbors wouldn't sign the petition one way or the other. There is a dog -leg at the top of our street, and there are 2 businesses, there is Noel Electric and Angel's Tree Trimming on each side of the street already, and they are good neighbors. Angel has heavy equipment that he backs into that lot so when you come off a 4 -lane highway on Batavia at 40 MPH at 3:30 pm and he is trying to back that equipment in his driveway, there is no safe pocket when you have cars parked all the way up to the corner with no red curb. We never had these issues until we had these 2 landscape companies move in, they have been there 2 years now and they have grown because the economy is beginning to get better for them, so one yard has 150 trucks, 300 employees walking in the morning we Cityof Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department B June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] i Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting ' City Traffic Commission June 12, 2013 don't have a crosswalk across Cully Dr. The reason we have issues there is because people are pulling into that street to be dropped off for work and taking 5 -10 minutes while residents from Cully Dr. are waiting to pull out of our street, we can't go around them you have to wait for them to go on. Chairman Beil closed the public hearing and returned the item to the Commission for further discussion and a motion. ACTION: Approved the request and forward to the City Council for final action. MOTION: King SECOND: Glasgow AYES: Unanimous NOES: None ABSENT: Lebeau, Vaughan 2. Request for the removal of green curb markings in front of 303 W. Palm Ave. Kris Olsen Chapman University One University Dr. Orange, Ca. 92866 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. Commissioner King — Is that building still empty, there's nobody in there? Chairman Beil — Chapman has been doing some improvements to the parking lot. ACTION: Approved the removal of the green curb. MOTION: Beil SECOND: King AYES: Unanimous NOES: None ABSENT: Lebeau, Vaughan City of Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department A' E!� June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] IP Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting ' City Traffic Commission June 12, 2013 3. Request for the installation of red curb markings for the easterly and westerly driveways serving the Coca -Cola Bottling Company at 700 W. Grove Ave. Shanon Pfieffer Coca Cola Refreshments 700 W. Grove Ave. Orange, Ca. 92865 The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. Chairman Beil opened the public hearing for the following discussion: Commissioner Glasgow — You're saying that the trucks have a higher line of sight which is true for most trucks, but some of these are day cabs which sit a little lower, do cars use that driveway or just trucks use that driveway? Dave Allenbach, Transportation Analyst — We've just seen the larger tractor /trailer type rigs using the gated driveways. In the middle driveway there is also a guard shack, and I think most of the time they go in that middle driveway and they exit from the westerly driveway. Teannie Long Safety Specialist @ Coca Cola — The easterly driveway is our employee driveway and traffic on the street parks right at the edge of our curb and going out of that for anyone in a lower car when pulling out into oncoming traffic you can't see until you're out in the middle of the street, it's a great safety risk. We recently had the Fire Dept. come out to perform their annual inspection and they also had a concern with getting emergency equipment into that driveway if we needed it. The center driveway is where the majority of our truck traffic is, it also has a lot of passenger vehicles coming in and out, we have POS containers which are our point of sale products, all of our paper goods, passenger cars come in and pick that up and they have to go back out that driveway. They also drive out into a blind area. It's true that some of our trucks have a higher line of vision, but when large vehicles are parked right up to the edge of the gate and across the street makes it extremely difficult and unsafe for them to pull out of that driveway. They have no clearance on either side. For the safety of our employees coming and going and for the traffic on Grove we ask you to approve the red curb. Chairman Beil — You're aware of staff's recommendation approving just on the easterly and denying installation on the west sides? `01 City of Tape NCTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department 41111K B June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] VO Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting — City Traffic Commission June 12, 2013 Commissioner Glasgow — Have you any problems where your trucks have clipped the cars, because you do a lot of right turns into your driveways? Jeannie Long, Safety Specialist @ Coca Cola — No we have not. Chairman Beil closed the public hearing and returned the item to the Commission for further discussion and -a motion. Commissioner Glasgow — As somebody who has driven tractor - trailers and have driven in the past, these day cabs are a lower than most of your big rigs and they have bob -tails that go in and out of there also, single axle, they sit even lower. If you have a suburban or a pick -up parked at the curb you may still have a problem with line of sight going both ways. That is such a narrow street, by the time you get a car on each side and you try to pull out with a 35 -45 footer, the turning radius shuts down and closes down. I wouldn't mind seeing the red curb put in at the center gate for those reasons. It is a little more difficult to drive some of the ,vehicles and now that they are sitting lower it's tougher to see with a bigger truck or vehicle in that area. Amir Farahani, City Traffic Engineer — The middle driveway has an approach of 44 ft. of existing red curb on the west side of the driveway. Teannie Long, Safety Specialist @ Coca Cola — If you are turning left coming out of that driveway so if there are large vehicles parked across the street, it will still make it difficult if you're turning out right you have more clearance because they park right lup to the edge of the driveway. There is no clearance there whatsoever. That's what we're asking for, some clearance on the right side of the driveway. Chairman Beil — It's definitely not a issue of vision zone it's the truck turning radius issue at that driveway, really not a vision safety zone issue. ACTION: Approved the installation of 40 ft. of red curb on the east side, and 30 ft. on the west side of the easterly driveway and deny the installation of red curb at the westerly driveway at 700 W. Grove Ave. MOTION: King SECOND: Beil AYES: Unanimous NOES: None ABSENT: Lebeau, Vaughan Cityof Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department A. B June 2013 [N:/rraffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] 14 Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting City Traffic Commission June 12, 2013 Chairman Beil — My suggestion is that if you're having a truck turning radius issue out of your own access drive that you talk with City staff about what it would take for you to get a permit to expand to more of a commercial size driveway to allow those trucks to make those turns. 4. Request for the installation of red curb markings for the driveway serving Biard & Crockett Plumbing Service at 320 E. Katella Ave. Gregory Biard Biard & Crockett Plumbing Service, Inc. 320 E. Katella Ave. Orange, Ca. 92867 The oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. Chairman Beil opened the public hearing for the following discussion: Gregory Biard, 320 E. Katella Ave — The situation that we've been having is relatively recent. We've been at this location 11 years there are 3 other tenants in the center, we are by far the largest and have the most traffic coming in and out. The problem didn't start until the restaurant moved in, which we are happy to have, they have really improved that site and the air smells so good most of the time. I've been told that it's their employees that are parking on the street. The problem is mainly prevalent in the late afternoon; we're not really having a problem in the morning or early afternoon. It's not a safety issue for my employees because they all know about it so they don't dare pull out between 5:30 — 6:00 p.m. you just can't see, so we've got access through a neighboring parking lot we drive through that parking lot onto Shaffer St. and we exit through there. It's my customers I'm worried about; there have been several who have complained that they have almost been hit. My plumbing truck can come and go with no problem, they are sitting up high enough they can see over the cars. If you are in a regular passenger car you can't see you just have to pull out an inch at a time. If you don't want to put in the red curb perhaps you could install time limit parking say from 3 —10 pm. It seems to be in conjunction with the restaurant hours. We have two driveways, an east and a west driveway and we have this situation at both of them. Chairman Beil — Going to Tulsa Rib once I had to park in their back lot and I was shocked there were no employee vehicles there and I figured the employees must be parking off -site or else on the street. City of Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department B June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] a Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting 1W City Traffic Commission June 12, 2013 Gregory Biard, 320 E. Katella Ave - They have quite a bit of parking, the fountain shop which is between us has a lot of parking, it's a conjoined parking lot and they close at 5 pm. Chairman Beil - It appears that they lease their back lot to someone for parking trucks. Gregory Biard, 320 E. Katella Ave - Tulsa has some of their own trucks back there, they do catering. We're not upset with Tulsa, we love having them at this location, it's just that it's a safety issue for my customers, my employees already know better. Chairman Beil - And all of the Biard & Crockett trucks, you have kind of the angled parking so when they come and go they are actually coming in this driveway and going out your westerly driveway. Chairman Beil closed the public hearing and returned the item to the Commission for further discussion and a motion. Commissioner Glasgow - I park on the east side and I go in and out on Shaffer. ACTION: Denied the request. MOTION: Glasgow SECOND: King AYES: Unanimous NOES: None ABSENT: Lebeau, Vaughan Gregory Biard, 320 E. Katella Ave - Is it possible to make another request for restricted hour parking? Chairman Beil - Possibly, you will have to talk with Dave and the staff about the applicability of that. We will be very cautious about putting that in on Katella because there will be mass proliferation. City of Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department ow L� June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] V# Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting '�' City Traffic Commission June 12, 2013 5. Request for the installation of red curb markings on the southeast corner of Rancho Santiago Blvd. and Lomita Ave. Steve Duncan 5261 E. Lomita Ave. Orange, Ca. 92869 Oral presentation is based on the written staff report; please refer to your copy. There were no speakers to this item. ACTION: Denied the request. MOTION: King SECOND: Glasgow AYES: Unanimous NOES: None ABSENT: Lebeau, Vaughan End of Consideration Items V. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS None this month. City of Tape #CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department � B June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] 1 !0 Printed On Recycled Paper Minutes of a Regular Meeting ' City Traffic Commission 'Row June 12, 2013 VI. ADJOURNMENT After discussion of today's Agenda the City Traffic Commission meeting was concluded, and as there were no further requests for action under Oral Presentations, the Chairman adjourned this session of the City Traffic Commission. The next meeting of the City Traffic Commission is scheduled: 5:30 P.M. Wednesday - August 14, 2013 Respectfully submitted, Phyllis Then, Recording Secretary Traffic Engineering Division pthen @ciiyoforange.org CITY OF ORANGE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT 300 E. CHAPMAN AVENUE ORANGE CA 92866 PH: (714) 744 -5536 FAX: (714) 744 -5573 City of Tape t/CTC -33.04 of this City Traffic Commission meeting is available for your review. rang Please contact the Recording Secretary at (714) 744 -5536 in this regard, advance notice is appreciated. Public Works Department �y � June 2013 [N:/Traffic /CTC /2013 Minutes] W Printed On Recycled Paper